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1 hour ago, KennyUtd said:

I've had pneumonia mate so my 1st drink in 2 weeks last night. Tonight it's a very agreeable Spanish white with some cheese and that. 

 

Soft shite

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1 hour ago, Heron said:

It's literally just a song mate it's nowt to do with baiting the Germans the Great Escape. Doubt the Germans even give a shit about it what so ever. The only word in it is literally "England". :lol:

 

I get it's from the war but as you've said so are most national anthems.

 

 

 

It was aimed specifically at the Germans when it started out - in the same way the humming ‘The Dambusters’ or singing about Bomber Harris is.  It’s been ‘gentrified’ by the (fucking irritating) England band, but it was 100% jingoistic shite which wasn’t hummed in good faith.  Most national anthems relate to wars which occurred outside of everyone’s lifetimes - they have the distance of history.  

 

It is a bit like people at the rugby today singing ‘Swing Low, Sweet Chariot’, which has completely dubious origins but now is adopted by the crowd without any thought as to why it’s being sung.  ‘Any idea why we’re singing a negro spiritual at a rugby match, Tristan?’ ‘No idea old boy’. 

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1 hour ago, leffe186 said:


Even better if it’s someone who has no idea when it was written.
 

I heard it so often when I lived in Scotland. Every once in a while it was in a situation that made me slightly uncomfortable :lol:

Wasn’t it written by Rob Roy in a cave with a timorous beastie as a pet or something? :) 

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alreet gents, did a family draft sweepstake thing where each of us (8 in total) gets to pick 6 teams. Each person's picks are on a line... the big question: who has the best group of teams? (Prizes for a) most total points in the group stage, and b) winning the world cup.)

 

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6 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said:

It was aimed specifically at the Germans when it started out - in the same way the humming ‘The Dambusters’ or singing about Bomber Harris is.  It’s been ‘gentrified’ by the (fucking irritating) England band, but it was 100% jingoistic shite which wasn’t hummed in good faith.  Most national anthems relate to wars which occurred outside of everyone’s lifetimes - they have the distance of history.  

 

It is a bit like people at the rugby today singing ‘Swing Low, Sweet Chariot’, which has completely dubious origins but now is adopted by the crowd without any thought as to why it’s being sung.  ‘Any idea why we’re singing a negro spiritual at a rugby match, Tristan?’ ‘No idea old boy’. 

The Great Escape is also outside of most people's lifetime now as well so not really sure how that's any different.

 

Honestly think it's just people being offended for offended sake. Not really sure I give a shit if Germans were once offended by us humming a tune about POWs escaping a Nazi prison camp anyways. Fuck me. :lol:

 

"Ooh don't sing that song it might hurt the feelings of those guys who murdered millions of innocent people"

 

Virtually everyone on this site condemns Israel and the genocide they're committing and I can nigh on guarantee if Palestinians were videoed singing about escaping an Israeli POW camp not one poster would suggest it was jingoistic. Not now or ever. Folk are only saying it's jingoistic cause they most likely did not live it (WW2).

 

Black folk sing about overcoming slavery that happened outside my life too, but I'm not offended by it. If anything shouldn't we all continue to celebrate triumphs of good over evil?

 

 

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Love a good National Anthem tbf. Our's (England's) is obviously rank, turgid shit. Happy to say I've never sang it once.

 

I did like the "1 nil down, 5- 1 up, 2 World Wars and 1 World Cup" song TBF but England's finest also think it's appropriate to sing "10 German Bombers" whilst drinking  Krombacher outside a German boozer before a game 🙄

 

Would've been ironic if they started singing Churchill songs last night given, quite rightly, the Kiwis know what an absolute cunt he was 😉

 

 

 

Morning comrades, btw 👍😂

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Popped out to the Fat Ox last night with the eldest. His mate and wife were already there. 

They were sat around the corner where the TV was turned off. Match was on every other TV.

He mentioned something about having asked to turn the TV off but I wasn't listening much so didn't hear properly. The England game didn't get mentioned until I went to the bog and checked the score 

"1-0, 2 mins left" I said

Daft cunt had been avoiding the game and was planning on watching it this morning 😂😂 That's what he was telling us early doors 🙄🙈😂

Shades of The Likely Lads but, dear me, a training game??

 

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4 minutes ago, leffe186 said:

One meaningless training session of a match, yet now I’m desperate for the World Cup to start. Any games on council telly today?

Morocco v Norway is on ITV4 later - 8pm KO 

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