David Edgar Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I've got some good news and some bad news. The good news is: The bad news is we've been relegated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 You're all still thinking about the bad news aren't ya? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 26 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Southgate/Cooper job swap in January I reckon. Southgate really seems like a Forest manager. He does, don’t ask, I don’t know why ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Abysmal Nations League performance, but Southgate has earned a crack at this World Cup. It will most likely be his last tournament regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Pata said: Donnarumma, Barella and one or two of the CBs imo. Edit. Didn't notice 'squad' but those would be starting. Aye, that's probably fair. Chisea and Verratti too when fit. Not sure about Donnarumma though, think he's been pretty poor since he left Milan and always got a massive error in him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 YOU'RE GOING DOWN WITH THE MACKEMS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 he'll turn it around, semi's at the minimum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Quote England are one of only two nations yet to score a non-penalty goal in the 2022-23 Nations League... along with San Marino. Incidentally that is who England's last competitive goal from open play was against. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Cos he plays well for England. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) playing players that are out of form. playing players who arent match fit due to lack of game time for their clubs. playing players out of position. and just being fucking negative in general. should have got rid after that abomination of a managerial performance in the euros final. Edited September 23, 2022 by huss9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci3SZjOj2DJ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 As long as they don’t start sniffing round wor Eddie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 10 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: https://www.instagram.com/p/Ci3SZjOj2DJ/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Pathetic tbh. Bruce is scum, Southgate is the most successful England manager since 1966. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Just had to look up the Nations League format again to see what relegated meant. Fuck me this competition is garbage Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Said at the time he should have gone after the Euros. not because he deserved to be sacked but more that he wouldn’t be able to raise the team again. Like losing the play off final, it’s hard to go again. Players needed a change of voice as well. we’ll get out of the group but quarters max in the WC then he will bow out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Just had to look up the Nations League format again to see what relegated meant. Fuck me this competition is garbage Why? Infinitely better than 100% meaningless friendlies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I don’t like this idea Southgate fluked his way through major tournaments, but you can’t mention his record without acknowledging the opposition. We clearly did get favourable runs in both 2018 and 2020 and every win we had you’d expect on paper, especially as we were virtually the home team in the Euros. Losing to Croatia in 2018 I’m not too disappointed by as they had an insanely good midfield, but that 2020 final at Wembley was really disappointing and Southgate should rightly get criticism for that. Also for balance I really like what he’s done for the team off the pitch if nothing else - it’s pretty clear he’s had a lot of positive influences on the squad and the fans and their value can’t be underestimated for big tournaments. I just think tactically he’s really poor and as such he’s got a ceiling and won’t take us further. However, I would happily be proven wrong and hope we’ve lowered expectations so much, that it might help the team somehow go on and win the World Cup… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 51 minutes ago, Pata said: Why? Infinitely better than 100% meaningless friendlies. Friendlies are at least "known" to be that . . meaningless practice matches. This effectively pointless, unwanted, tournament is trying to be a tournament, but actually ends up meaningless. I prefer the 'honesty' of friendlies, that I can happily ignore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 4 minutes ago, manorpark said: Friendlies are at least "known" to be that . . meaningless practice matches. This effectively pointless, unwanted, tournament is trying to be a tournament, but actually ends up meaningless. I prefer the 'honesty' of friendlies, that I can happily ignore. It might seem 100% meaningless to big countries like England but it's pretty important to smaller nations who don't automatically qualify to every tournament. I really don't understand how someone could choose friendlies over the Nations League format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Just now, Pata said: It might seem 100% meaningless to big countries like England but it's pretty important to smaller nations who don't automatically qualify to every tournament. I really don't understand how someone could choose friendlies over the Nations League format. I was talking from our countries (and my own) perspective, and my post says it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elbee909 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 This lot still going? Never been less interested in England tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 (edited) Think the praise he's had and the criticism are both fair. We haven't scored in 500 minutes now. He's picked 12 defenders in a squad lacking creativity, and sticks with the likes of Maguire and Grealish, who can't get a game and are low on confidence, but can't see any place in a big squad for someone like Maddison, who has been in top form for ages and brings attributes the team badly need. I get that you can't always just pick form players or you'd chop and change your XI every time, and you need players you trust to fit into a system. But what kind of message does it send to the group when you clearly have your favourites who have barely kicked a ball all season and walk into your team? I used to like the fact Southgate didn't let the media and fans dictate his selection, but by stubbornly sticking with the same group, it's now too late to call in players who deserve their chance because he "doesn't know them". Maddison for example has 1 cap for England. Edited September 24, 2022 by ohmelads Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 Far too much turn and return football. Majority of players had the mentality of ‘don’t be the one to lose the ball’, they weren’t working decent passing angles in attack, they played the ball in the final third in ways that ensured the man receiving it would be the one to lose it. Bellingham and at times Foden were the only ones thinking ahead to their second touch to take them forward, the rest knew they were going to instantly shield it and lay it off. We’ve been told it’s a happy camp, the divides between players are gone, but they either don’t trust the system or don’t trust each other. Kane and Sterling played like they’ve just found the other in bed with their lass. When does Tomori get his chance if it’s not in his stadium against players he’s most familiar with? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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