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Not to mention that we were successful (won the Championship and finished 10th) in both seasons that Mitrovic wasn't getting a look in. Rafa's not free of criticism, but I'm yet to see a criticism of him where Mitrovic is concerned that actually makes any sense within the way Rafa has had us setup.

 

again, for me the mitrovic conversation is only a thing imo because we've not replaced him with someone demonstrably better

 

mitro will be a 15-20 striker in a team that suits him and is playing well creating plenty of chances, he's unlikely to ever better that or to become a top class striker

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I'll put my hand up as someone who was foolish enough to think we'd spend the Mitrovic fee.

 

If we are not going to spend any money at all, then yes, every member of the squad is likely to be better than their replacements. Especially members of the squad who can be sold for high fees.

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How come nobody posted his comments the other day?

 

Rafa's or Mitro's? Either way could you sum up please?

I'm paraphrasing, but "Rafa wanted me to press from the front, that's not my game, I get tired doing that, my game is crosses in the box, I tried adapting but I couldn't do it."

 

Wish people would move on. He was never going to play under Rafa and asking Rafa to adapt his ways and tactics which have given him so much success down the years to accommodate him is daft. If Rafa was backed it would be more black and white than simply Mitro being sold and proving a world beater whilst Rafa prefers Joselu/Rondon.

 

I'm glad he's said that tbf, otherwise I would be looking at his goals and wondering what Rafa's problem was. But you tend to find most winning managers tend to have quite high standards when it comes to pressing from the front, so now I'm thinking I would rather stick with the manager's philosophy on this one, considering his proven record of success with it. I don't know how Jokanovic will turn out in the long term, maybe his judgement on how to use Mitro will prove to be right. I just wish Rafa had been given that sort of money to spend this summer because I would definitely have backed him to finish higher up the table if he had.

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I’m sick of people apologising for Rafa on this one. When you have a striker like that in the club, you play to their strengths and they will get goals.

 

You get goals you stand a chance of winning games. It’s quite simple.

 

He played in a diabolical Steve McClaren side and then barely played for Rafa in a league that he would have torn up if let loose. That doesn’t count as a fair crack at it.

 

If we weren’t gonna play him, we should have loaned him out that season. He would have had a run of games and come back on form for last season perhaps.

 

It leaves a bad taste in the mouth that he’s a Fulham player now. I still wish him all the success in the world, he was black n white through n through. He still loves this club.

 

You're questioning a man that has won everything there is to win in the game!!! Saying Rafa should adapt his clearly very successful methods to accommodate one player is absolute lunacy.

 

'Ere Rafa, i know you've won multiple league titles, and the Champions League with a rank outsider but my expert opinion is that you're wrong and you should change your winning ways to work around Mitrovic because he's class' 

:dowie:

 

I’m not sure if you’ve noticed but we play nothing like what Liverpool did when he was there.

 

We barely play the same way from game to game despite picking the same shite line up.

 

Respecting what Rafa has done in the game doesn’t shield him from criticism. He got it wrong here. By the time we sold Mitro it was fairly obvious that the money wouldn’t be spent. So if Rafa is prepared to walk away, why not leave at least a few players with promise in the squad.

 

Maybe the next manager would have rated him..

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I watched every Fulham games this season and honestly Mitrovic did run around and gave pressures to opponent defenders, except for the final few minutes where he looked knackered.  His statement was strange imo. Rather than "his style not fit under Rafa", I would say it's  "he doesn't wanna run for Rafa".

 

Their relationship was broken down a long time ago, i think it's pretty clear.  Rafa was right to get rid of someone who doesn't want to work under him.  Rafa, however, should be questioned why the relationship with our most valuable asset (sadly) has worsened to the point of no return.

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I watched every Fulham games this season and honestly Mitrovic did run around and gave pressures to opponent defenders, except for the final few minutes where he looked knackered.  His statement was strange imo. Rather than "his style not fit under Rafa", I would say it's  "he doesn't wanna run for Rafa".

 

Their relationship was broken down a long time ago, i think it's pretty clear.  Rafa was right to get rid of someone who doesn't want to work under him.  Rafa, however, should be questioned why the relationship with our most valuable asset (sadly) has worsened to the point of no return.

 

Lascelles?!

 

I'm sick of this thread already and it's only September  :lol:

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I watched every Fulham games this season and honestly Mitrovic did run around and gave pressures to opponent defenders, except for the final few minutes where he looked knackered.  His statement was strange imo. Rather than "his style not fit under Rafa", I would say it's  "he doesn't wanna run for Rafa".

 

Their relationship was broken down a long time ago, i think it's pretty clear.  Rafa was right to get rid of someone who doesn't want to work under him.  Rafa, however, should be questioned why the relationship with our most valuable asset (sadly) has worsened to the point of no return.

 

Why question Rafa rather than Mitro? If he'd rather run around for Jokanovic wearing a Fulham shirt then he can fuck off anyway.

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I watched every Fulham games this season and honestly Mitrovic did run around and gave pressures to opponent defenders, except for the final few minutes where he looked knackered.  His statement was strange imo. Rather than "his style not fit under Rafa", I would say it's  "he doesn't wanna run for Rafa".

 

Their relationship was broken down a long time ago, i think it's pretty clear.  Rafa was right to get rid of someone who doesn't want to work under him.  Rafa, however, should be questioned why the relationship with our most valuable asset (sadly) has worsened to the point of no return.

 

Lascelles?!

 

I'm sick of this thread already and it's only September  :lol:

 

At this moment I am pretty sure Mitrovic could get a higher transfer fee from the market.

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I watched every Fulham games this season and honestly Mitrovic did run around and gave pressures to opponent defenders, except for the final few minutes where he looked knackered.  His statement was strange imo. Rather than "his style not fit under Rafa", I would say it's  "he doesn't wanna run for Rafa".

 

Their relationship was broken down a long time ago, i think it's pretty clear.  Rafa was right to get rid of someone who doesn't want to work under him.  Rafa, however, should be questioned why the relationship with our most valuable asset (sadly) has worsened to the point of no return.

 

Why question Rafa rather than Mitro? If he'd rather run around for Jokanovic wearing a Fulham shirt then he can f*** off anyway.

 

Right, Rafa shouldn't be questioned for the handling of Mitro, so Rafa basically did nothing wrong in relation to the whole saga.  Then explain to me why people above are suggesting Rafa messed up this one?

 

As I said you shouldn't keep a bad egg in your refrigerator so Rafa was right to get rid of Mitro even if we got no one in return. Why should Rafa care for our next season when his only mission left is to survive this one?

 

You still don't get what type of manager Rafa is?

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Rafas single mindedness is one of his strongest assets but also one of his weaknesses.

 

Mitrovic, Mbemba and Mbabu are all better than Gayle, Joselu, Manquillo, Dummett, Clark and a 30 year old Fernandez

 

Like everyone he makes decisions which some agree with and others don't. 

 

I'm sure Bobby Robson told Shearer to stay within the width of the 18 yard box.  Mitros instructions should have been the same to get the best out of him

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Rafas single mindedness is one of his strongest assets but also one of his weaknesses.

 

Mitrovic, Mbemba and Mbabu are all better than Gayle, Joselu, Manquillo, Dummett, Clark and a 30 year old Fernandez

 

Like everyone he makes decisions which some agree with and others don't. 

 

I'm sure Bobby Robson told Shearer to stay within the width of the 18 yard box.  Mitros instructions should have been the same to get the best out of him

Not that the two are anywhere near in the same league, but when Pardew was given players like Ben Arfa we all said a good manager should adapt the game to suit his best players, particularly attackers.

 

The narrative always changes for Rafa, it's like admitting hes not perfect makes you less of a fan, its like a weird cult thing which actually makes the deluded tag seem less of a myth.

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I watched every Fulham games this season and honestly Mitrovic did run around and gave pressures to opponent defenders, except for the final few minutes where he looked knackered.  His statement was strange imo. Rather than "his style not fit under Rafa", I would say it's  "he doesn't wanna run for Rafa".

 

Their relationship was broken down a long time ago, i think it's pretty clear.  Rafa was right to get rid of someone who doesn't want to work under him.  Rafa, however, should be questioned why the relationship with our most valuable asset (sadly) has worsened to the point of no return.

 

Why question Rafa rather than Mitro? If he'd rather run around for Jokanovic wearing a Fulham shirt then he can f*** off anyway.

 

Right, Rafa shouldn't be questioned for the handling of Mitro, so Rafa basically did nothing wrong in relation to the whole saga.  Then explain to me why people above are suggesting Rafa messed up this one?

 

As I said you shouldn't keep a bad egg in your refrigerator so Rafa was right to get rid of Mitro even if we got no one in return. Why should Rafa care for our next season when his only mission left is to survive this one?

 

You still don't get what type of manager Rafa is?

 

Mitro said that he couldn't spend his time closing down defenders, yet you say he is doing just that for Fulham. I don't get how it's Rafa's fault if he refuses to follow instruction for him, but seems perfectly capable of doing it for  Jokanovic. It would make more sense if he wasn't pressing the defenders for Fulham and was free to play as an out and out striker which is what Mitro's quote implies.

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People questioning Rafa when he got us to 10th last season without Mitro. :lol:

 

Mitro even has said he couldn't fit Rafa's system.

 

Mitro also not showing signs of being good enough to change the whole system to suit him.

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If it turns out in the long run that Rafa has made a mistake not keeping Mitrović then so have all the top league clubs. Only Fulham came in for him. All the top clubs will be kicking themselves for not buying Mitrović when he was available for only £22m (rising to £27m) if he ends up as good as some people think he'll be.

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If it turns out in the long run that Rafa has made a mistake not keeping Mitrović then so have all the top league clubs. Only Fulham came in for him. All the top clubs will be kicking themselves for not buying Mitrović when he was available for only £22m (rising to £27m) if he ends up as good as some people think he'll be.

 

We need a good centre forward probably even more so than any other team in the league. It'll bite us harder than anyone.

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Rafas single mindedness is one of his strongest assets but also one of his weaknesses.

 

Mitrovic, Mbemba and Mbabu are all better than Gayle, Joselu, Manquillo, Dummett, Clark and a 30 year old Fernandez

 

Like everyone he makes decisions which some agree with and others don't. 

 

I'm sure Bobby Robson told Shearer to stay within the width of the 18 yard box.  Mitros instructions should have been the same to get the best out of him

Not that the two are anywhere near in the same league, but when Pardew was given players like Ben Arfa we all said a good manager should adapt the game to suit his best players, particularly attackers.

 

The narrative always changes for Rafa, it's like admitting hes not perfect makes you less of a fan, its like a weird cult thing which actually makes the deluded tag seem less of a myth.

 

I try to avoid having an opinion in this thread but come on, man. :lol:

 

Of course the narrative changes in those instances. Because a player of Ben Arfa's ability coming to our club was a coup at that point, and Pardew had no proven track record of how to get the most out of players, barring the 5th season never looking like he had a cohesive plan. He was the one that wanted 'magic' to see us through, so why the fuck didn't he pick the most magic player we had?

 

This time, it's one of the most proven managers in world football, with one of the most proven track records and tactical minds around. You're surprised people have more trust in Rafa than fucking Pardew? Cult FFS. :lol:

 

Can't believe someone has even brought up the old 'if it was Pardew' debate for this.

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