mrmojorisin75 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Thought Mitro's pass was actually too weak and didn't lead Shelvey enough as the player behind him was closing in, however, saying that he should have had more urgency and either had a pop at goal or a look behind him and found another pass. I'd happily sell his ass this summer; maybe thinking Mitro, Townsend, Lascelles, and Sissoko are the only ones I think I actually still truly like and I'm stretching that list even. Amazing how fast Lascelles stock has risen mind[emoji38] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Boy stood up and has put in a hell of shift and said all the right things. Can't hate him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Would like to see him start v Villa. Gini starting is pointless and we need someone to play some good forward passes which this man can do. Hopefully being left out for a few games has gave him the kick up the arse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HawK Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Would like to see him start v Villa. Gini starting is pointless and we need someone to play some good forward passes which this man can do. Hopefully being left out for a few games has gave him the kick up the arse. SDJ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty66 Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Shelvey or SDJ would definitely make us better in attack. Hope it happens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Shelvey is lazy and really shouldn't be anywhere near the team right now, so I'm glad he's benched. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Shelvey or SDJ would definitely make us better in attack. Hope it happens. Given that neither can run I massively doubt they'd be better than Perez or Wijnaldum in that position. I thought Perez was good when he came on FWIW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Shelvey or SDJ would definitely make us better in attack. Hope it happens. Given that neither can run I massively doubt they'd be better than Perez or Wijnaldum in that position. I thought Perez was good when he came on FWIW Good is a bit much, he didn't complete a pass and he only touched the ball 6 times when he came on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Shelvey or SDJ would definitely make us better in attack. Hope it happens. Given that neither can run I massively doubt they'd be better than Perez or Wijnaldum in that position. I thought Perez was good when he came on FWIW Good is a bit much, he didn't complete a pass and he only touched the ball 6 times when he came on. Created one decent chance for himself, won a corner, should have done better with the counter attack but I thought he did well overall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 Aye Perez looked pretty dangerous, just fucked up his final ball/decision a couple of times. Wijnaldum looked good when we were pouring forwards too, he's just useless when we're not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted May 1, 2016 Share Posted May 1, 2016 think If Rafa stays he will move the guy on, clearly not in Rafa's thinking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaehyun Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Disagree, think he'll play an important part next season. At the moment the games mean too much and so Rafa is going with two defensive midfielders. Next year when the relegation pressure is off, wouldn't be surprised to see Rafa use him more often as we play more on the front foot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Disagree, think he'll play an important part next season. At the moment the games mean too much and so Rafa is going with two defensive midfielders. Next year when the relegation pressure is off, wouldn't be surprised to see Rafa use him more often as we play more on the front foot. Don't see it. Rafa's been a safety first manager. At Liverpool he played 2 CM's together that now has one of them playing in defence and the other has been the most defensive midfielder in his teams for the last 4 years in his mid 30's. Same man that played Kuyt RW and Riise LW. Jonjo is a goner if someone will buy him. Regardless of our league situation if Rafa stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 I don't really have any problem with 2 DM as long as they can move the ball around OK and have attackers in front of them. I can see why managers like the 4231 so much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Sulked off straight down the tunnel at the final whistle, obviously not very happy. Perez did aswell to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 He just doesn't seem to fit into the Rafa system at all in the 2 man CM pairing. He's not a defensive midfielder, he's not a mobile box to box midfielder, and he lacks positional discipline to play in the system IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Sulked off straight down the tunnel at the final whistle, obviously not very happy. Perez did aswell to be fair. TVs had Rafa with an arm around Perez talking to him from what likely was a mistake on his part on a counter attack that led to Palace pouring men forward on an attack... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 He just doesn't seem to fit into the Rafa system at all in the 2 man CM pairing. He's not a defensive midfielder, he's not a mobile box to box midfielder, and he lacks positional discipline to play in the system IMO. He's going to struggle for sure. Might work his way in if we demonstrate we can control possession, but that's a hell of a long way off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikky Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Sulked off straight down the tunnel at the final whistle, obviously not very happy. Perez did aswell to be fair. TVs had Rafa with an arm around Perez talking to him from what likely was a mistake on his part on a counter attack that led to Palace pouring men forward on an attack... Rafa said he did that because Perez dropped his head and Rafa was simply telling him not to worry about things like that; mistakes happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 He just doesn't seem to fit into the Rafa system at all in the 2 man CM pairing. He's not a defensive midfielder, he's not a mobile box to box midfielder, and he lacks positional discipline to play in the system IMO. He's going to struggle for sure. Might work his way in if we demonstrate we can control possession, but that's a hell of a long way off. Wonder if you move forward with pushing Sissoko back into a CM role next to a new more mobile defensive midfielder. You then free up to play a more natural #10 and sign a genuine LW and a mobile striker? Ain't a clue, but I think Sissoko and Townsend (and more-so the latter) have the best claim at being a starter than anyone else in our team in attack going forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Sulked off straight down the tunnel at the final whistle, obviously not very happy. Perez did aswell to be fair. TVs had Rafa with an arm around Perez talking to him from what likely was a mistake on his part on a counter attack that led to Palace pouring men forward on an attack... Rafa said he did that because Perez dropped his head and Rafa was simply telling him not to worry about things like that; mistakes happen Yeah, so he didn't just go sulking down the tunnel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMTW Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Sulked off straight down the tunnel at the final whistle, obviously not very happy. Perez did aswell to be fair. TVs had Rafa with an arm around Perez talking to him from what likely was a mistake on his part on a counter attack that led to Palace pouring men forward on an attack... Rafa said he did that because Perez dropped his head and Rafa was simply telling him not to worry about things like that; mistakes happen So refreshing after Lasagne face and Pards would happily throw their players under the bus. Literally the bloke can't do a thing wrong. Just oozes class. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magpie Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Sulked off straight down the tunnel at the final whistle, obviously not very happy. Perez did aswell to be fair. TVs had Rafa with an arm around Perez talking to him from what likely was a mistake on his part on a counter attack that led to Palace pouring men forward on an attack... Rafa said he did that because Perez dropped his head and Rafa was simply telling him not to worry about things like that; mistakes happen Yeah, so he didn't just go sulking down the tunnel Alreet man, I just seen him with his head down heading towards the tunnel so assumed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 Don't think Shelvey can play as a #10, he'll get no time on the ball there and would take away his main attribute of passing from deep. I think unless we're dominating possession and they are standing off our midfield, like West Ham did for the first 45 minutes at SJP, then he can play, but he's not mobile enough to play in the other games and right now I'd much prefer Colback Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 3, 2016 Share Posted May 3, 2016 sorry man, didn't mean to come off prick-ish there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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