Jonjo Shelvey (now playing for Burnley)

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[Yorkie]

You're absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think Shelvey is one of our two most important players (the other is Gayle). The whole team revolves around him and he's excellent at what he does, certainly in this league anyway. If he ends up getting a long ban (including these three games), for sheer fucking stupidity, he wants an absolute belting. He's so vital to us going up.

[shintonsghost]

Hes looked great this season , the space hes getting is the key.

 

Didny unlock anything last night tbf but always looks up and gets us going.theres merit in what some say but i like him.

 

We will be without him possibly till feb now so things need to change.

 

I so  wanted to hang on for a point, cruel and indeserved in the end

[SEMTEX]

a luxury player like Viana fucking hell

[wyn davies]

question being can we afford to keep him, bearing in mind all the cloggers in this league will be after him, hence he becomes a liability.

[ujpest doza]

He did fuck all imo.

This.

Any contact if any was minimal, never a red card or a penalty.

 

[Guest neesy111]

You're absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think Shelvey is one of our two most important players (the other is Gayle). The whole team revolves around him and he's excellent at what he does, certainly in this league anyway. If he ends up getting a long ban (including these three games), for sheer fucking stupidity, he wants an absolute belting. He's so vital to us going up.

So vital that teams can predict the way we are playing, therefore just sitting back as they know we have no way of getting in behind.  It was telling that forest were happy to give him lots of room to spray passes to the wings.

[Darth Crooks]

Neesy what you on about you bagheed?

[Sima]

[Guest neesy111]

Neesy what you on about you bagheed?

We need to develop other patterns of play through our midfield than shelvey spraying passes to our right hand side.  For all the possession we've had in the last 3 games, we've created next to fuck all when it's been 11 vs 11.  Teams are happy to give us the ball and defend deep.

[Darth Crooks]

I agree we need variety and an alternative but regardless of what the opposition try it doesn't work as they give him too much time and space. To say he's a luxury is utter claptrap.

[Mistle17]

Will his redcard start from next week vs Brum?

[sempuki]

Will his redcard start from next week vs Brum?

Think so.

[TRon]

You're absolutely kidding yourself if you don't think Shelvey is one of our two most important players (the other is Gayle). The whole team revolves around him and he's excellent at what he does, certainly in this league anyway. If he ends up getting a long ban (including these three games), for sheer fucking stupidity, he wants an absolute belting. He's so vital to us going up.

 

I think we'll be fine without him tbh although we don't have a natural replacement. I think Ronaldo suggested going for two up front and that's certainly one option. Someone like De Jong would have been an interesting alternative. Not as good a passer but really good movement to get beyond the forwards.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

We are far too slow and patient in CM. Shelvey and Hayden practically sit on top of the defence. Its only the movement and clinical finishing of Gayle that is making it look like its working. We get lots of touches in midfield and seem to dominate possession, yet we hardly cause the opposition genuine problems on goal or in their penalty area.

 

Its obviously working because we are top, but its a concern. We should be walking this league, but we are simply making do.

[Gallowgate Toon]

We are far too slow and patient in CM. Shelvey and Hayden practically sit on top of the defence. Its only the movement and clinical finishing of Gayle that is making it look like its working. We get lots of touches in midfield and seem to dominate possession, yet we hardly cause the opposition genuine problems on goal or in their penalty area.

 

Its obviously working because we are top, but its a concern. We should be walking this league, but we are simply making do.

 

This just isn't true. We've cut a lot of teams to pieces.

[huss9]

ravel morrison in on loan in january, any one? any one???

[Greg]

We are far too slow and patient in CM. Shelvey and Hayden practically sit on top of the defence. Its only the movement and clinical finishing of Gayle that is making it look like its working. We get lots of touches in midfield and seem to dominate possession, yet we hardly cause the opposition genuine problems on goal or in their penalty area.

 

Its obviously working because we are top, but its a concern. We should be walking this league, but we are simply making do.

 

This is bollocks.

[sempuki]

ravel morrison in on loan in january, any one? any one???

He's been linked with us a bit but as he's a nutter I doubt Rafa will be interested. Think we need a creative CM, winger and a number 10 in January.

[ExiledGeordie]

We are far too slow and patient in CM. Shelvey and Hayden practically sit on top of the defence. Its only the movement and clinical finishing of Gayle that is making it look like its working. We get lots of touches in midfield and seem to dominate possession, yet we hardly cause the opposition genuine problems on goal or in their penalty area.

 

Its obviously working because we are top, but its a concern. We should be walking this league, but we are simply making do.

 

I think this is far too negative given the change of personnel in the summer. Team will continue to improve throughout the season

[Elliottman]

We are far too slow and patient in CM. Shelvey and Hayden practically sit on top of the defence. Its only the movement and clinical finishing of Gayle that is making it look like its working. We get lots of touches in midfield and seem to dominate possession, yet we hardly cause the opposition genuine problems on goal or in their penalty area.

 

Its obviously working because we are top, but its a concern. We should be walking this league, but we are simply making do.

 

This is bollocks.

 

I think he's drunk.

[Guest Howaythetoon]

Look, IMO we have the best squad, best manager and best team, but we are just about making do. I love Rafa and trust him 100%, but I feel he needs to relax a little and just send the team out to go for it, a general 4-4-2 would do.

[ExiledGeordie]

Look, IMO we have the best squad, best manager and best team, but we are just about making do. I love Rafa and trust him 100%, but I feel he needs to relax a little and just send the team out to go for it, a general 4-4-2 would do.

 

He's not going to play 442 though is he, and we've just come off a 9 game winning streak playing his system. Like I said I think the team will continue to improve in the second half of the season

[Guest Howaythetoon]

We are far too slow and patient in CM. Shelvey and Hayden practically sit on top of the defence. Its only the movement and clinical finishing of Gayle that is making it look like its working. We get lots of touches in midfield and seem to dominate possession, yet we hardly cause the opposition genuine problems on goal or in their penalty area.

 

Its obviously working because we are top, but its a concern. We should be walking this league, but we are simply making do.

 

This is bollocks.

 

It's not like, people are too hung up on the whole "Rafalution", we are top but there are genuine concerns and if we continue as is we will go right to the wire when we could be so much more comfortable.

[Greg]

We are far too slow and patient in CM. Shelvey and Hayden practically sit on top of the defence. Its only the movement and clinical finishing of Gayle that is making it look like its working. We get lots of touches in midfield and seem to dominate possession, yet we hardly cause the opposition genuine problems on goal or in their penalty area.

 

Its obviously working because we are top, but its a concern. We should be walking this league, but we are simply making do.

 

This is bollocks.

 

It's not like, people are too hung up on the whole "Rafalution", we are top but there are genuine concerns and if we continue as is we will go right to the wire when we could be so much more comfortable.

 

"yet we hardly cause the opposition genuine problems on goal or in their penalty area"

 

Yet only 2 of the 92 teams in the professional game this season have scored more goals than us.

 

Not sure you've been watching our games.

 

Of course there is room for improvement, without a doubt, but your spouting utter bollocks coming out with shite like that.