Guest neesy111 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. He got dropped directly before our best run of form I can only remember him missing the palace game? He played against Swansea, Liverpool and spurs, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. :lol: :lol: back. Great argument. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. He got dropped directly before our best run of form I can only remember him missing the palace game? He played against Swansea, Liverpool and spurs, no? He came on as sub in those games. He didn't start any of the last 6 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. He got dropped directly before our best run of form I can only remember him missing the palace game? He played against Swansea, Liverpool and spurs, no? He didn't start any of the games when we went on a good run at the end of the season. He looks a lot fitter this season than last season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. :lol: :lol: back. Great argument. Honestly, what games were you following last season? Shelvey was lambasted by many fans for his lazy performances after his debut vs West Ham. I seem to remember his pathetic showing in the 5-1 at Chelsea where he couldn't be arsed to track back after 20 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. He got dropped directly before our best run of form I can only remember him missing the palace game? He played against Swansea, Liverpool and spurs, no? He didn't start any of the games when we went on a good run at the end of the season. He looks a lot fitter this season than last season Didn't he have to train all summer to get back into the reckoning under Rafa? Either way, he was complete gash in the Prem and I've got serious doubts how he'll do next time around. He's only decent when he gets acres of space/time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. He got dropped directly before our best run of form I can only remember him missing the palace game? He played against Swansea, Liverpool and spurs, no? He didn't start any of the games when we went on a good run at the end of the season. He looks a lot fitter this season than last season Didn't he have to train all summer to get back into the reckoning under Rafa? Either way, he was complete gash in the Prem and I've got serious doubts how he'll do next time around. He's only decent when he gets acres of space/time. He started first few games this season and then was dropped for a couple till his fitness was sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 He was absolutely shite last season like. He clearly couldn't be arsed and any benefit from his passing wasn't realised because our movement in the final 3rd was pretty much non-existent. Rafa wasn't even planning to start him this season going by our line-up against Fulham. Last season was by no means a fair reflection of his actual ability like but he's still going to need someone alongside him with a good engine next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. He got dropped directly before our best run of form I can only remember him missing the palace game? He played against Swansea, Liverpool and spurs, no? He didn't start any of the games when we went on a good run at the end of the season. He looks a lot fitter this season than last season Didn't he have to train all summer to get back into the reckoning under Rafa? Either way, he was complete gash in the Prem and I've got serious doubts how he'll do next time around. He's only decent when he gets acres of space/time. He started first few games this season and then was dropped for a couple till his fitness was sorted. http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/jonjo-shelvey-reveals-scrapped-summer-11609926 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. He got dropped directly before our best run of form I can only remember him missing the palace game? He played against Swansea, Liverpool and spurs, no? He didn't start any of the games when we went on a good run at the end of the season. He looks a lot fitter this season than last season Didn't he have to train all summer to get back into the reckoning under Rafa? Either way, he was complete gash in the Prem and I've got serious doubts how he'll do next time around. He's only decent when he gets acres of space/time. He started first few games this season and then was dropped for a couple till his fitness was sorted. Didn't start against Fulham on the opening day did he? Played pretty much every game since then though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Would hope we replace him if we get promoted. He's too much of a liability and goes missing for long periods of games. He's one of probably only 3 or 4 PL quality players we have in our squad. As he showed the last time we were there................oh wait. He was still one of our better players last season. He got dropped directly before our best run of form I can only remember him missing the palace game? He played against Swansea, Liverpool and spurs, no? He didn't start any of the games when we went on a good run at the end of the season. He looks a lot fitter this season than last season Didn't he have to train all summer to get back into the reckoning under Rafa? Either way, he was complete gash in the Prem and I've got serious doubts how he'll do next time around. He's only decent when he gets acres of space/time. He started first few games this season and then was dropped for a couple till his fitness was sorted. He didn't start our first game. He's started every league game since that he's been available except Bristol City Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Strange why I thought that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 In the premier league, I think he'll need a much better player alongside him if he is to be consistent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 He's an absolute knacker, like. He really needs to keep a lid on his temper as it's possibly gonna cost us points in the final run in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 He's another player who is absolutely superb when everything is going well, but is absolutely trash and a liability when they are not. Hopefully Rafa can take the second part of that out of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 one stupid challenge yesterday as if he was deliberatley trying to get sent off. brainless at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 He was absolutely shite last season like. He clearly couldn't be arsed and any benefit from his passing wasn't realised because our movement in the final 3rd was pretty much non-existent. Rafa wasn't even planning to start him this season going by our line-up against Fulham. Last season was by no means a fair reflection of his actual ability like but he's still going to need someone alongside him with a good engine next year. That's always going to be the case even if someone else is playing instead of Shelvey. I've always thought that the central midfield you need two players with big engines. It's why I still preferred Tiote to Colback because clumsy as he was, at least he could cover some ground and close out the opposition. It's like playing with 10 men with Colback as one of the midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Rafa is getting the best out of him and whilst I don't particularly like the fella he is undoubtedly the most effective player in the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiston Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Rafa is getting the best out of him and whilst I don't particularly like the fella he is undoubtedly the most effective player in the league When was the last time he had a run of games where he played well in ? Must be well before he got himself banned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If I were an opponent I'd look at Shelvey and think to myself, I can boss him out of the game no problem. He lacks real physical strength, genuine pace and genuine mobility. He's a luxury player in the sense that Juan Román Riquelme was (although a class below obviously). For such a player you need at least one real powerhouse next to him and you need pace up front and out wide to stretch the opposition so space opens up in the middle of the park where a fantastic passer with the vision Shelvey has can work his magic. At home to the likes of Hull next season if we were to go up and they were to stay up he'll be fine. Away to say West Ham though and its a different ball-game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Needs legs around him for sure. Wor Jack isn't the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If I were an opponent I'd look at Shelvey and think to myself, I can boss him out of the game no problem. He lacks real physical strength, genuine pace and genuine mobility. He's a luxury player in the sense that Juan Román Riquelme was (although a class below obviously). For such a player you need at least one real powerhouse next to him and you need pace up front and out wide to stretch the opposition so space opens up in the middle of the park where a fantastic passer with the vision Shelvey has can work his magic. At home to the likes of Hull next season if we were to go up and they were to stay up he'll be fine. Away to say West Ham though and its a different ball-game. Yeah - this season hasn't done anything to make me think we can build a PL midfield (and attack) around him, which is what you would need to do to get the best out of him. And even if you do that, I don't think he's good enough to make 'that' much difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 If I were an opponent I'd look at Shelvey and think to myself, I can boss him out of the game no problem. He lacks real physical strength, genuine pace and genuine mobility. He's a luxury player in the sense that Juan Román Riquelme was (although a class below obviously). For such a player you need at least one real powerhouse next to him and you need pace up front and out wide to stretch the opposition so space opens up in the middle of the park where a fantastic passer with the vision Shelvey has can work his magic. At home to the likes of Hull next season if we were to go up and they were to stay up he'll be fine. Away to say West Ham though and its a different ball-game. It's honestly like you're talking about a different player whenever you talk about Shelvey. I just don't see what you seem to see as his deficiencies at all, I've never seen anything to back up what you're saying in this league or the PL. When he can be arsed, he's been one of the better midfielders in the Premier League, that happened. And it's the him being able to be arsed that's the weakness in his game for me. 3 v 2 in midfield would be a problem for most midfields that are the 2, but put him 3 v 3, 2 v 2, or 3 v 2 with him in the 3 and him being out-muscled etc wouldn't be something I'd particularly worry about tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Shelvey's been one of the successes for me, and I wasn't a fan at the start of the season. His main weakness is defensively, he's a poor tackler and runs out of gas in the second half. But fitness wise he's much better this season, and on the ball he's one of the few players who rarely loses possession, and that's gold in this team at the moment. Especially when you consider he doesn't opt for the easy passes either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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