Hanshithispantz Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 We created chances in open play against Croatia like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinoasprilla Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 He had a lack of options on the bench as he took too many defenders. It was a squad full of centre backs and full backs pushed on Henderson was in midfield on his own at times. Ali out of position and lingard largely invisible. Having shelvey or even Wiltshire *(Not a big fan) he could have pushed Ali up closer to Kane where he plays for Spurs France and Croatia both play with target men in Giroud and Mandzukic. Taking a Carroll type doesn't mean your a long ball team. He would have been a better option than an injured Kane and instead we went out with a whimper. Three centre backs marking a 32 year old fat niall Quinn whilst we got over run continually in midfield Croatia worked us out other teams will Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Croatia worked us out other teams will it was always the pre-tournament worry - that once we played a decent team we'd not be able to play the same game and struggle to adjust, exactly what happened important thing now is that southgate learns from this, the giroud example is a good one tbf...he can have his principles but very few teams in the world can win tournaments by simply out-footballing everyone they play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSFC Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 Yeah the team definitely needed something more in the midfield. 2nd to last in shots on target per 90 minutes at 0.9. Only team that was worse in that category was Iran. Tells me that the set piece taking was great and efficiency. Its too bad that there wasnt more in the midfield to get that shot on target stat closer to middle of the pack...probably would have been playing later today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Good little interview on 5 Live now, sounds so much more mature than he did a couple of years ago. And loves Rafa to bits. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Croatia worked us out other teams will it was always the pre-tournament worry - that once we played a decent team we'd not be able to play the same game and struggle to adjust, exactly what happened important thing now is that southgate learns from this, the giroud example is a good one tbf...he can have his principles but very few teams in the world can win tournaments by simply out-footballing everyone they play That'll be the problem though as it would be nice if he does, he's laid a good foundation for the team to do better, he seems a thinker too. I just hope his limitations don't stop him developing the team going forward, as i think that be the problem, his limitations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Those interviews always tend to come just before a red card in my experience. I hope not obviously, he's been mint for ages now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hasn't had much success with free kicks and I think his lack of confidence showed when he let Kenedy take over for the second half, then he should definitely have stepped up for the penalty. Cost us the win with that decision or lack of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 He's class Shelvey. Not only is he our best user of a football, but he has quickly turned into our hardest working, most committed player. As valuable to us as Lascelles is, 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hasn't had much success with free kicks and I think his lack of confidence showed when he let Kenedy take over for the second half, then he should definitely have stepped up for the penalty. Cost us the win with that decision or lack of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hasn't had much success with free kicks and I think his lack of confidence showed when he let Kenedy take over for the second half, then he should definitely have stepped up for the penalty. Cost us the win with that decision or lack of it. Tbf, I said that before Rafa had cleared it up that Kenedy was the designated penalty taker. I do think Shelvey looks unlikely to score from the free kicks as well, not many of them seem to come off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Best player on the park today. Guy is pure class when he is focused. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 Hasn't had much success with free kicks and I think his lack of confidence showed when he let Kenedy take over for the second half, then he should definitely have stepped up for the penalty. Cost us the win with that decision or lack of it. Tbf, I said that before Rafa had cleared it up that Kenedy was the designated penalty taker. I do think Shelvey looks unlikely to score from the free kicks as well, not many of them seem to come off. Got it was going to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Best player on the park today. Guy is pure class when he is focused. Best part was that it wasn't his 60 yard passes today, but the running and closing down and harrying. Diamond in a pile of turd against Cardiff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Still wish he would look for simple passes more often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I said it the other day watching the arsenal game Shelvey is better than everyone of their midfielders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey jake Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 I said it the other day watching the arsenal game Shelvey is better than everyone of their midfielders. Someone better will be in for him in january Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Still wish he would look for simple passes more often. I get the feeling he's under instruction to play the long ball. Rafa doesn't seem to trust our players ability to bring the ball out with short passing, obviously he doesn't think a lot of them are good enough to do it. I think he's got a point if the game against Cardiff is any indicator. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Still wish he would look for simple passes more often. I get the feeling he's under instruction to play the long ball. Rafa doesn't seem to trust our players ability to bring the ball out with short passing, obviously he doesn't think a lot of them are good enough to do it. I think he's got a point if the game against Cardiff is any indicator. Definitely the plan is to get the ball forward quickly, it's our chosen style. I would love us to stroke it around more as well, especially against the shit teams. Maybe we will once a few more of the new signings come in and confidence increases a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ElCid Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Still wish he would look for simple passes more often. I get the feeling he's under instruction to play the long ball. Rafa doesn't seem to trust our players ability to bring the ball out with short passing, obviously he doesn't think a lot of them are good enough to do it. I think he's got a point if the game against Cardiff is any indicator. Definitely the plan is to get the ball forward quickly, it's our chosen style. I would love us to stroke it around more as well, especially against the shit teams. Maybe we will once a few more of the new signings come in and confidence increases a bit. Doesn’t work though when you have players up front who are not exactly very quick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 It worked with Gayle upfront to chase it. It won't work now unless Muto is playing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Still wish he would look for simple passes more often. I get the feeling he's under instruction to play the long ball. Rafa doesn't seem to trust our players ability to bring the ball out with short passing, obviously he doesn't think a lot of them are good enough to do it. I think he's got a point if the game against Cardiff is any indicator. Definitely the plan is to get the ball forward quickly, it's our chosen style. I would love us to stroke it around more as well, especially against the shit teams. Maybe we will once a few more of the new signings come in and confidence increases a bit. Doesn’t work though when you have players up front who are not exactly very quick It might be because he's worried that our players aren't good enough to get it upfield by passing it regardless. You need defenders and midfielders who can bring the ball out, if they lose it then we are under pressure in our own half. I got the feeling it was a defensive measure as much as an attacking one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newintoon Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 How does Jonjo not get a mention in this article, disgraceful http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/11491809/englands-open-play-problem-will-gareth-southgate-find-a-solution Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 How does Jonjo not get a mention in this article, disgraceful http://www.skysports.com/football/news/12016/11491809/englands-open-play-problem-will-gareth-southgate-find-a-solution Because he's got 0 goals and 0 assists and we're currently sitting in the relegation zone? Football fans and writers generally have short memories, so not at all surprised to see the rhetoric change from "he should be in the England team" to now not being even considered. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted September 7, 2018 Share Posted September 7, 2018 Still wish he would look for simple passes more often. this is what he's most improved on imo, he used to take the ball and fuck about looking for a hollywood pass...now when he takes the ball generally his head is up and he's looking for a forward pass short or long Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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