AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I haven't been impressed by him but I think he could be an important part of an improved team. At the moment I don't think he was exactly what we needed, but he will be a good signing if we stay up and improve the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 He will always struggle too, one of his main outlets is balls in behind but we don't have a striker capable of getting in behind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 We need Mitro as the target man and Perez playing off him on the shoulder of the last man with someone like De Jong or Wijnaldum in behind. Townsend on one wing and dare I say it Sissoko on the other with Shelvey mopping up as a deep lying playmaker. Defensively minded and competent full backs and obviously the two CBs and keeper. For me the issue is Sissoko and virtually all of our CBs need chasing and replaced. Then need to buy at least two LBs as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 problem is we dont have the right partner for him in midfield. Tiote could be an option - where is he btw? gini and shelves is as good as it gets atm. If we stay up. new dm gini shelvey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I have a lot of time for players that don't shy away and try to make things happen. He was pretty much man-marked yesterday and that stopped us, but he kept trying to force the issue and I liked that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I think Saivet could be the ideal partner for him, having to play DM with Gini is basically asking him to be the creator, holder, ball winner and organiser all in one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 I dont get why Saivet's not getting a chance, he's been good in each game I've seen him play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Another with a fairly poor first touch and slow feet. Once he gets moving he's a decent dribbler but the first 3 touches aren't great. Doesn't handle pressure well so he goes deeper to get more time on the ball. It's one thing to have that problem at the highest level like Alonso- it's another when Kirchoff and M'vila can shut you down. Having a more combative CM partner might help him with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Just as much SDJ with a very solid first touch and quick thinking helped him. But Sunderland also retreated giving him space. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Another with a fairly poor first touch and slow feet. Once he gets moving he's a decent dribbler but the first 3 touches aren't great. Doesn't handle pressure well so he goes deeper to get more time on the ball. It's one thing to have that problem at the highest level like Alonso- it's another when Kirchoff and M'vila can shut you down. Having a more combative CM partner might help him with that. I disagree I think the gap between our central midfielders and centre halves is huge it's like a chasm either we press as a team try to be compact, Shelvey is prone to pressing at stupid times which leaves our centre halves very vulnerable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Another with a fairly poor first touch and slow feet. Once he gets moving he's a decent dribbler but the first 3 touches aren't great. Doesn't handle pressure well so he goes deeper to get more time on the ball. It's one thing to have that problem at the highest level like Alonso- it's another when Kirchoff and M'vila can shut you down. Having a more combative CM partner might help him with that. I disagree I think the gap between our central midfielders and centre halves is huge it's like a chasm either we press as a team try to be compact, Shelvey is prone to pressing at stupid times which leaves our centre halves very vulnerable. If we had more tactically aware players this wouldn't be an issue though...as they'd all either press or not collectively. Another thing, players would slot in to cover if they had more thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 Another with a fairly poor first touch and slow feet. Once he gets moving he's a decent dribbler but the first 3 touches aren't great. Doesn't handle pressure well so he goes deeper to get more time on the ball. It's one thing to have that problem at the highest level like Alonso- it's another when Kirchoff and M'vila can shut you down. Having a more combative CM partner might help him with that. I disagree I think the gap between our central midfielders and centre halves is huge it's like a chasm either we press as a team try to be compact, Shelvey is prone to pressing at stupid times which leaves our centre halves very vulnerable. If we had more tactically aware players this wouldn't be an issue though...as they'd all either press or not collectively. Another thing, players would slot in to cover if they had more thought I agree in part but I don't think that's universally the case, England tried it for years with Gerrard and Lamport and couldn't get it right, Arsenal also have struggles with this line of thought as well. As you said though Heza we don't have much choice given the other players we have available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 He's on 9 yellow cards now (one in the FA Cup - does that count towards the 10 for a ban?) So he'll be getting a 2 game ban soon enough you'd assume Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted March 22, 2016 Share Posted March 22, 2016 Newcastle United midfielder Jonjo Shelvey feels like he is "going to school again" following the recent arrival of manager Rafael Benitez. The Magpies have lost to leaders Leicester and drawn with local rivals, and fellow strugglers, Sunderland since the Spaniard took over two weeks ago. "You're always being watched - you feel like you're on trial if you like," Shelvey told BBC Newcastle. "Everyone's looking to impress and being a lot busier than normal." The 24-year-old continued: "But that's part and parcel of football, you need to show what you're about. "When a new manager comes in, it's like going to school again." Following Sunday's 1-1 draw with Sunderland, the Magpies remain next to bottom, one place below the Black Cats, and three points adrift of safety - although both teams have a game in hand over 17th-placed Norwich City. The Tynesiders have four points fewer than at the same stage of the 2008-09 season, when they were last relegated from the top flight. However, Shelvey is confident Benitez can make a big difference during the two-week international break. "People are listening to what he says. His record speaks for itself," he said. "[The break] will be a good chance to really knuckle down. We've not had much time since he's come in because everything has been a bit rushed." Newcastle are next in action against Norwich at Carrow Road on 2 April. The former Swansea midfielder added: "Rafa will come up with a game plan because that's what he does. "I'm sure we'll go to Norwich and give a very good account of ourselves." http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35867154 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Erratic as fuck, terrible decision making and positioning at times. Might be a handy player in the championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Erratic as fuck, terrible decision making and positioning at times. Might be a handy player in the championship. Very careless, gives the ball away cheaper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Yeah, don't see the fuss with him, so immobile, complete liability defensively and his hollywood passes are getting worse by the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Our best player by far, as he has been in the vast majority of games since he's joined. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Lots of flashy looking passing but he slows the game down in order to pull them off. Plus he can't tackle at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Our best player by far, as he has been in the vast majority of games since he's joined. He's only played two good games since he joined mate. Debut and the following home game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 He offers nothing defensively. He cannot run to save his life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 He came here, started well and is now showing why Swansea were happy to take our money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Our best player by far, as he has been in the vast majority of games since he's joined. Mitro was our best player today, which says it all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mozy Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 Our best player by far, as he has been in the vast majority of games since he's joined. He's only played two good games since he joined mate. Debut and the following home game. I said he was the best, in a lot of cases that means the least shit. But anyway Shelvey takes risks and most things he does are either brilliant or useless. I'll take that over the middle of the roader. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted April 2, 2016 Share Posted April 2, 2016 He always does some good stuff in a game, to be fair to him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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