joeyt Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I think a lot of players won't realise how turd Pardew is until they're in his clutches tbf. How dare Ben Arfa join a Pardew club etc Ben fell out with Pardew to such an extent he was thrown out of the club on a free. When Townsend does the same he will be welcomed back. Until then he can kiss Pardew's arse along with any sympathisers. 'Ben' Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubestationatmidnight Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 England dumped him from a great height in the summer. Playing for that shambles that is England nowadays is hardly a massive thing and massive incentive to leave. Took a massive step downwards. His loss. We have moved on. Wouldn't have him back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shays Given Tim Flowers Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Not even for £3m? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 The 'wouldn't have him back' patter only makes sense when the player in question wouldn't obviously improve us a great deal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I think a lot of players won't realise how turd Pardew is until they're in his clutches tbf. How dare Ben Arfa join a Pardew club etc Ben fell out with Pardew to such an extent he was thrown out of the club on a free. When Townsend does the same he will be welcomed back. Until then he can kiss Pardew's arse along with any sympathisers. So you wouldn't take Benteke? A fellow 'Pardew sympathiser'? Did Benteke leave Newcastle, a team led by one of the greatest managers in the world and one of the best football arenas in England? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I'm not turning down Andros Townsend in January like He won't come though as even if he wanted to for some reason Palace are not going to sell him for anyway close to the £13m they bought him for. We're not paying £20m+ for him. Who's to say he wants to come back anyway? He might well be quite happy to play for a small time London club under a shite manager. Why roll the red carpet out prematurely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I think a lot of players won't realise how turd Pardew is until they're in his clutches tbf. How dare Ben Arfa join a Pardew club etc Ben fell out with Pardew to such an extent he was thrown out of the club on a free. When Townsend does the same he will be welcomed back. Until then he can kiss Pardew's arse along with any sympathisers. So you wouldn't take Benteke? A fellow 'Pardew sympathiser'? Did Benteke leave Newcastle, a team led by one of the greatest managers in the world and one of the best football arenas in England? Is this meant to be a joke or not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I'm not turning down Andros Townsend in January like He won't come though as even if he wanted to for some reason Palace are not going to sell him for anyway close to the £13m they bought him for. We're not paying £20m+ for him. Who's to say he wants to come back anyway? He might well be quite happy to play for a small time London club under a shite manager. Why roll the red carpet out prematurely? fucking howay man, TRon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 I think a lot of players won't realise how turd Pardew is until they're in his clutches tbf. How dare Ben Arfa join a Pardew club etc Ben fell out with Pardew to such an extent he was thrown out of the club on a free. When Townsend does the same he will be welcomed back. Until then he can kiss Pardew's arse along with any sympathisers. So you wouldn't take Benteke? A fellow 'Pardew sympathiser'? Did Benteke leave Newcastle, a team led by one of the greatest managers in the world and one of the best football arenas in England? Is this meant to be a joke or not My bad. I still think of Benteke as an ex-Villa player seeing as he hardly got a sniff at Anfield. Still no real comparison to Townsend, Benteke wasn't wanted at Liverpool, absolute opposite for Townsend at Newcastle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 It's obviously about England though, whether his opinions of having to be playing in the Premiership to be picked are justified or not. Even if Palace are in the relegation zone and we're running away with the Championship in January I doubt he'd be open to a move back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milburn Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 If Rafa Benitez could do a season in the Championship, then so should Townsend. For one thing I'm sure: one season in the Championship, coached by Rafa, would have done wonders for Townsend. He'd come back up in the Premier Leage as a better player claiming for a place in the England squad. Shelvey is going down that route and it wouldn't surprise me one bit if he is in the England squad one year from now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Don't see how anyone could have a problem with Townsend leaving us. He came in January and was told if we went down he could leave. We went down and a Premier League club offered him a job on probably similar terms to what he already had with us. He used to live in London and had no feelings for Newcastle prior to joining us. He also knows that he has more chance of playing for England in the Premier League than the Championship due to the bizarre selection process of this country. It's a no brainer for him. I wish him well as he came in and did an excellent job for us and he put everything in to try and help us stay up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 He also knows that he has more chance of playing for England in the Premier League than the Championship due to the bizarre selection process of this country. It's not that bizarre like, nor is it exclusive to just this country. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 He also knows that he has more chance of playing for England in the Premier League than the Championship due to the bizarre selection process of this country. It's not that bizarre like, nor is it exclusive to just this country. I didn't say it was exclusive to this country, but I do think it is bizarre. If a player is good enough to play for the international team, then he is good enough - it doesn't matter which team, league or country they play their football in imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 AT typifies the modern English footballer. Stays at Spurs too long to the detriment of his career and when he does sign for someone where it looks like his career will really blossom, he leaves. Using the PL and England as justification. Imagine Messi leaving Barca to come to the PL because he thinks it will help him win the WC with Argentina... AT is fucking stupid, a grade a thick cunt up there with the best (worst of them). Sadly I'm pretty sure his agent, friends, family et al will have all helped to make him come to the decision he did, because its good for his career innit. He will never play for a bigger club than us or a better manager than Benitez and we will cross trajectories soon, NUFC going upwards, AT downwards. Fool! Btw I was quite gutted when he left because he would be the best player in this division by miles and he would be the difference. He's a genuinely good player capable of becoming a top-class player. Under Pardew though... Anyway fuck him and anyone else who is too thick to realise a good thing and that's what Rafa and NUFC combined were for AT. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Woah, he scored more PL goals for us than Spurs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milburn Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Some Championship players have been in the England squad in the past. I recall Steve McClaren including David Nugent of Preston North End while being the England manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marmoset Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Some Championship players have been in the England squad in the past. I recall Steve McClaren including David Nugent of Preston North End while being the England manager. Yeah so loads of them then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 It also shows you how insular the game is here in England when it comes to the National manager, players and the England team. If someone is tearing it up the the Championship they shouldn't be ignored. Its not at the level of the PL, but its not Scotland or the Dutch league. Its quite tough, competitive and there are some good players. Townsend is a Premier League player, well above average, playing in the Championship shouldn't prevent an England manager from selecting such a player, especially if he is performing well. When it comes to the national team though its not about form, but about who you play for and name. Rooney for example should have been dropped long ago and so should a good few others as well. Meanwhile the likes of Rashford and co should have been given more game time. It was interesting to hear Dyer speak about KK recently in that he was brave enough to pick players based on what he saw with his own two eyes in training or how he thought they could help the team rather than on name and who they played for. Me I'd drop half the current team and never play them again. Bring in younger and hungrier players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Didn't England have one of the, if not the youngest squad at the Euros? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 Didn't England have one of the, if not the youngest squad at the Euros? But did he play them all or most of them? Not sure myself as I hardly took notice to be honest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayson Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 He also knows that he has more chance of playing for England in the Premier League than the Championship due to the bizarre selection process of this country. It's not that bizarre like, nor is it exclusive to just this country. I didn't say it was exclusive to this country, but I do think it is bizarre. If a player is good enough to play for the international team, then he is good enough - it doesn't matter which team, league or country they play their football in imo. Right but I suppose the issue is around the standard of football you are consistantly being challenged by & the jump to international standard again. You could adapt to certain things being less complicated at lower level, even if you're able to make the step up. Might be harder to do it quickly for one off games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 There's no jump in standard between the Championship and playing Scotland, Malta, Slovakia, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted October 7, 2016 Share Posted October 7, 2016 There's no jump in standard between the Championship and playing Scotland, Malta, Slovakia, etc. I think a good chunk of European international football at least is at a comparable level but raised only because of the level of competition be it a Euro or WC qualifier. Slovakia vs Slovenia is comparable to say Derby vs Wolves for me. That's why England race through qualifiers because the level is generally that well below of the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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