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I wouldn't mind seeing Ritchie as a CM at point, think he could be good there.

 

I don't really get this tbh, CM is a pretty specialist position, I don't think he could play there

 

He's not that good at tackling as well which would be massive requirement for him playing centrally.

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£15m for a 29 year old, that's a cracking deal in my view.

 

It's a decent price for Townsend IMO, could be an England player again under Rafa.

 

He means Matt Ritchie. Townsend is only 26.

 

the fuck :lol:

 

I thought Townsend was a "late bloomer" and expected him to be around 29 now. All of a sudden im way more positive to him coming back even though it was a really stupid decision of him to stay in the PL when we went down.

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I think Kenedy was better than Townsend was (and also has far more potential), but broadly agree with that assessment. I'd happily see the back of Ritchie to get more pace and quality on both flanks.

 

Especially handy for a Rafa side that likes to sit deep when out of possession and counter quickly. I think Ritchie was better suited at Bournemouth where they play a high pressing game.

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I wouldn't mind seeing Ritchie as a CM at point, think he could be good there.

 

I don't really get this tbh, CM is a pretty specialist position, I don't think he could play there

 

He's not that good at tackling as well which would be massive requirement for him playing centrally.

AM maybe? Spot on that he would work deeper.

Also as mentioned 15m is a decent price. I love his work rate and passion. I prefer Townsend though so wouldn't be too dissappinted with the switch out if it happened. Bit like Mitro and mbemba, rafa works with them day in day out. If he thinks somebody works better or they don't work good enough in his system and for what he wants then it's best they go.

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Ritchie is basically Scott Sellars - great championship/average prem player, and you'd always upgrade him with Ginola

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We have to remember that keeping Townsend was Rafa’s first choice. Signing Ritchie was ultimately a response to losing that player.

 

If we can sell a player to bring in a better one we should always do that.

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We have to remember that keeping Townsend was Rafa’s first choice. Signing Ritchie was ultimately a response to losing that player.

 

If we can sell a player to bring in a better one we should always do that.

 

Aye.

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Ritchie is basically Scott Sellars - great championship/average prem player, and you'd always upgrade him with Ginola

 

Probably, but then who's Ginola in this situation?

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Pace it's all about the pace and as a counter attacking team, it's all about that pace on the break.

 

Yeah agree with that. Rafa loves pace in the team.

 

Aye and as much as Ritchie has been brilliant for us in many ways, his lack of pace slows us down. I love Townsend, he's direct and commits players, think he shades it for me if i had to choose.

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Pace it's all about the pace and as a counter attacking team, it's all about that pace on the break.

 

Yeah agree with that. Rafa loves pace in the team.

 

Aye and as much as Ritchie has been brilliant for us in many ways, his lack of pace slows us down. I love Townsend, he's direct and commits players, think he shades it for me if i had to choose.

 

Same. Not for £30m though.

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Pace it's all about the pace and as a counter attacking team, it's all about that pace on the break.

 

Yeah agree with that. Rafa loves pace in the team.

 

Aye and as much as Ritchie has been brilliant for us in many ways, his lack of pace slows us down. I love Townsend, he's direct and commits players, think he shades it for me if i had to choose.

 

Same. Not for £30m though.

 

Fucking right, £15m to £20m in today's market i suppose and if Ritchie does go for £15m, £0m-£5m is a steal as a replacement.

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Ritchie is basically Scott Sellars - great championship/average prem player, and you'd always upgrade him with Ginola

 

Probably, but then who's Ginola in this situation?

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Ritchie is basically Scott Sellars - great championship/average prem player, and you'd always upgrade him with Ginola

 

We played some of our best football with Sellars in the team, a very underrated player for us. According to KK it was niggly injuries and a lack of hunger that prevented him being a bigger player for us, in that he was happy to just play a part and wasn’t one to bray the door down when not picked or dropped. You need squad players, team players, but KK if a player had talent he did just could not fathom such a player being OK with playing a bit part.

 

Sellars could play ACM, a keen eye for a pass, hard working, deceptively quick and also able to play wide with a great cross on him. I rated him highly and always thought why didn’t he feature more. he seemed to have a good thing going with Clark and Cole early doors.

 

Ritchie is nowt like him by the way.

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Commentary on the Swe-Swi match compared Ginola to Shaqiri in that they have scored the equal highest number of goals from outside the box in the PL. Maybe we should replace Ritchie with him?

 

(Not serious, been done to death. But it's a modern day comparison)

 

The comparison between Sellars and Ritchie has validity in that they were both hard-working professionals who lacked that bit of quality and were replaced by better players. Good squad players - Ritchie isn't out the door yet (nor his replacement in), but he'll be remembered in a similarly positive way as Sellars is.

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Sorry, but Sellars wasn’t this hard working player, yes he put a shift in, but KK’s side meant he didn’t have to put the kind of shift in that Ritchie does and he was a much better passer and crosser, he wasn’t confined to the wings either. Sellars was an intelligent player who fitted KK’s way of playing really well even if he lacked pace and wizardry with the ball at his feet. He was upgraded on because we become more direct and quicker going forward hence Ginola. Sellars was more intricate, more someone who would slip into various positions and areas of the field and look for one twos, short passes, crosses or balls into space which is how we played with Cole up front. Once Sir Less arrived it was about crossing and cutting in to shoot or play infield passes for Lee and Beardsley and even then we were moving away from the kind of football that made Beardsley key to how we played. That’s how I saw things anyway.

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Commentary on the Swe-Swi match compared Ginola to Shaqiri in that they have scored the equal highest number of goals from outside the box in the PL. Maybe we should replace Ritchie with him?

 

(Not serious, been done to death. But it's a modern day comparison)

 

The comparison between Sellars and Ritchie has validity in that they were both hard-working professionals who lacked that bit of quality and were replaced by better players. Good squad players - Ritchie isn't out the door yet (nor his replacement in), but he'll be remembered in a similarly positive way as Sellars is.

 

Considering 90%+ of Robert's goals for us were Free Kicks / out the box, he must be up there too I would have thought?

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Ritchie is basically Scott Sellars - great championship/average prem player, and you'd always upgrade him with Ginola

 

We played some of our best football with Sellars in the team, a very underrated player for us. According to KK it was niggly injuries and a lack of hunger that prevented him being a bigger player for us, in that he was happy to just play a part and wasn’t one to bray the door down when not picked or dropped. You need squad players, team players, but KK if a player had talent he did just could not fathom such a player being OK with playing a bit part.

 

Sellars could play ACM, a keen eye for a pass, hard working, deceptively quick and also able to play wide with a great cross on him. I rated him highly and always thought why didn’t he feature more. he seemed to have a good thing going with Clark and Cole early doors.

 

Ritchie is nowt like him by the way.

 

Nolan is probably a better analogy. Decent player if you look at performances in isolation, good stats (well, season before he left), popular with fans and a leader/positive influence in the dressing room, but needed to be upgraded on for us to progress and wouldn't have been happy sitting on the bench. Nolan also had to step down a division to find a team willing to pay comparative wages.

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