B-more Mag Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I'm not sure who realistically could have kept us up given how long Charnley waited to do anything. Even more unsure if I'd prefer to be in the resulting position we'd be in now with whomever that might be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I didn't rate him, I wouldn't have said so otherwise. I'm not taking it seriously, it's just proper weird how on here you're supposed to have the same unchanged opinion on something forever. It's funny as fuck when certain posters try to explain and excuse things away because their ego can't contemplate their opinions changing over time, or god forbid, their review of a player or a manager ended up being wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Personally don't think anyone else would have got more than he 13? Points he got us in those last 10 games. Specially not since the Media were linking us with Moyes ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I agree, changing opinion on a manager is absolutely fine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBallWinner Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 That Daily Mail article had 1 or 2 errors in it also. I wish the stuff I wrote about Rafa and NUFC got publicity like that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I agree, changing opinion on a manager is absolutely fine. There are limits Ian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I agree, changing opinion on a manager is absolutely fine. There are limits Ian. Et tu KI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 3 weeks too late for anyone. Did we get thrashed by Chelsea. Go on holiday for 2 weeks to then lose to Bournemouth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I didn't rate him, I wouldn't have said so otherwise. I'm not taking it seriously, it's just proper weird how on here you're supposed to have the same unchanged opinion on something forever. It's funny as f*** when certain posters try to explain and excuse things away because their ego can't contemplate their opinions changing over time, or god forbid, their review of a player or a manager ended up being wrong. I agree just you know how it is and it's not exactly the first time old posts have been brought up, especially when they are opinions which tend to not coincide to general opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 It wasn't that way like, loads of people didn't rate Rafa at Liverpool, Inter and Real. Obviously there's a big difference when he's at Newcastle and you cut the cloth of your opinion accordingly. I hated the way his Liverpool side played, they were horrible to watch a lot of the time, but when it's your own team your feelings are totally different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemagpie Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I didn't rate him, I wouldn't have said so otherwise. I'm not taking it seriously, it's just proper weird how on here you're supposed to have the same unchanged opinion on something forever. It's funny as f*** when certain posters try to explain and excuse things away because their ego can't contemplate their opinions changing over time, or god forbid, their review of a player or a manager ended up being wrong. Why didn't you rate him when he came considering his track record up to that point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 It wasn't that way like, loads of people didn't rate Rafa at Liverpool, Inter and Real. Obviously there's a big difference when he's at Newcastle and you cut the cloth of your opinion accordingly. I hated the way his Liverpool side played, they were horrible to watch a lot of the time, but when it's your own team your feelings are totally different. Really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I didn't rate him, I wouldn't have said so otherwise. I'm not taking it seriously, it's just proper weird how on here you're supposed to have the same unchanged opinion on something forever. It's funny as f*** when certain posters try to explain and excuse things away because their ego can't contemplate their opinions changing over time, or god forbid, their review of a player or a manager ended up being wrong. Why didn't you rate him when he came considering his track record up to that point? I rated his record, I just didn't like the way Liverpool played a lot of the time, they were very huff and puff whenever I watched them they often beat technically better teams with effort alone. When you're watching as a neutral and want decent football, it's crap to watch. When it's your own team, it's brilliant. That and him wanting to replace Xabi Alonso with Gareth Barry, which is still absolutely crackers, as much as I love the man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 No idea what you're on about tbh. I don't bother with transfer stuff. He kept going on and on and on all summer about how our price on Sissoko was daft and how he was "proven right" because no one came in for him. Then of course, two parties did come in for him at our valuation and he ended up looking even more of a tit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I didn't rate him, I wouldn't have said so otherwise. I'm not taking it seriously, it's just proper weird how on here you're supposed to have the same unchanged opinion on something forever. It's funny as f*** when certain posters try to explain and excuse things away because their ego can't contemplate their opinions changing over time, or god forbid, their review of a player or a manager ended up being wrong. Why didn't you rate him when he came considering his track record up to that point? I rated his record, I just didn't like the way Liverpool played a lot of the time, they were very huff and puff whenever I watched them they often beat technically better teams with effort alone. When you're watching as a neutral and want decent football, it's crap to watch. When it's your own team, it's brilliant. That and him wanting to replace Xabi Alonso with Gareth Barry, which is still absolutely crackers, as much as I love the man. Did you not read the reason why he tried to do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBallWinner Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 2005 - CL Winners. 2006 - CL Last 16 - FA Cup Winners. 2007 - CL Final. 2008 - CL Semi Final. 2009 - CL Quarter Final. Liverpool under Rafa. Not including the 3rd and 2nd place finishes in the Premier League. If any Liverpool "FAN" doesn't rate him it's because they're a bit daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I didn't rate him, I wouldn't have said so otherwise. I'm not taking it seriously, it's just proper weird how on here you're supposed to have the same unchanged opinion on something forever. It's funny as f*** when certain posters try to explain and excuse things away because their ego can't contemplate their opinions changing over time, or god forbid, their review of a player or a manager ended up being wrong. Why didn't you rate him when he came considering his track record up to that point? I rated his record, I just didn't like the way Liverpool played a lot of the time, they were very huff and puff whenever I watched them they often beat technically better teams with effort alone. When you're watching as a neutral and want decent football, it's crap to watch. When it's your own team, it's brilliant. That and him wanting to replace Xabi Alonso with Gareth Barry, which is still absolutely crackers, as much as I love the man. I didn't like him at Liverpool either, but that's partly because I don't like Liverpool whoever their manager is. I always thought he was a bit defensive, but yeah it's great when it's your team and suddenly you stop shipping goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I didn't rate him, I wouldn't have said so otherwise. I'm not taking it seriously, it's just proper weird how on here you're supposed to have the same unchanged opinion on something forever. It's funny as f*** when certain posters try to explain and excuse things away because their ego can't contemplate their opinions changing over time, or god forbid, their review of a player or a manager ended up being wrong. Why didn't you rate him when he came considering his track record up to that point? I rated his record, I just didn't like the way Liverpool played a lot of the time, they were very huff and puff whenever I watched them they often beat technically better teams with effort alone. When you're watching as a neutral and want decent football, it's crap to watch. When it's your own team, it's brilliant. That and him wanting to replace Xabi Alonso with Gareth Barry, which is still absolutely crackers, as much as I love the man. Did you not read the reason why he tried to do that? Yeah, I did. Versatility and the English Gerrard/Barry relationship iirc. Still daft imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 2005 - CL Winners. 2006 - CL Last 16 - FA Cup Winners. 2007 - CL Final. 2008 - CL Semi Final. 2009 - CL Quarter Final. Liverpool under Rafa. Not including the 3rd and 2nd place finishes in the Premier League. If any Liverpool "FAN" doesn't rate him it's because they're a bit daft. Way to take what was said and run with it like. I said people on here, not Liverpool fans, and I meant more his style of play than his record. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I didn't rate him, I wouldn't have said so otherwise. I'm not taking it seriously, it's just proper weird how on here you're supposed to have the same unchanged opinion on something forever. It's funny as f*** when certain posters try to explain and excuse things away because their ego can't contemplate their opinions changing over time, or god forbid, their review of a player or a manager ended up being wrong. Why didn't you rate him when he came considering his track record up to that point? I rated his record, I just didn't like the way Liverpool played a lot of the time, they were very huff and puff whenever I watched them they often beat technically better teams with effort alone. When you're watching as a neutral and want decent football, it's crap to watch. When it's your own team, it's brilliant. That and him wanting to replace Xabi Alonso with Gareth Barry, which is still absolutely crackers, as much as I love the man. Did you not read the reason why he tried to do that? Yeah, I did. Versatility and the English Gerrard/Barry relationship iirc. Still daft imo. I was referring to him having to sell Alonso to raise funds, he said people always question why he wanted to sell him - but he didnt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBallWinner Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 2005 - CL Winners. 2006 - CL Last 16 - FA Cup Winners. 2007 - CL Final. 2008 - CL Semi Final. 2009 - CL Quarter Final. Liverpool under Rafa. Not including the 3rd and 2nd place finishes in the Premier League. If any Liverpool "FAN" doesn't rate him it's because they're a bit daft. Way to take what was said and run with it like. I said people on here, not Liverpool fans, and I meant more his style of play than his record. Ahh sorry dude. I don't think my post that aimed at you solely anyway. Somebody on here a few days ago (might have been you, i don't know ) said LFC fans along with Napoli fans ended up hating him or something along those lines. It just astounds me that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 2005 - CL Winners. 2006 - CL Last 16 - FA Cup Winners. 2007 - CL Final. 2008 - CL Semi Final. 2009 - CL Quarter Final. Liverpool under Rafa. Not including the 3rd and 2nd place finishes in the Premier League. If any Liverpool "FAN" doesn't rate him it's because they're a bit daft. Way to take what was said and run with it like. I said people on here, not Liverpool fans, and I meant more his style of play than his record. You were wrong on the internet which means you're wrong forever. Man up and live with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 2005 - CL Winners. 2006 - CL Last 16 - FA Cup Winners. 2007 - CL Final. 2008 - CL Semi Final. 2009 - CL Quarter Final. Liverpool under Rafa. Not including the 3rd and 2nd place finishes in the Premier League. If any Liverpool "FAN" doesn't rate him it's because they're a bit daft. Way to take what was said and run with it like. I said people on here, not Liverpool fans, and I meant more his style of play than his record. Ahh sorry dude. I don't think my post that aimed at you solely anyway. Somebody on here a few days ago (might have been you, i don't know ) said LFC fans along with Napoli fans ended up hating him or something along those lines. It just astounds me that's all. No worries. Aye, you'd have to have taken things massively for granted to end up hating up as a Liverpool fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dom2 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 There were a few fans who hated him the last season or so, but the vast majority loved him. Xabi Alonso was put up for sale because he was a player who could command a large fee, he had also gone a bit stale the previous season. Our Yank owners were draining the club, and Rafa constantly had to think of ways of raising money. As it was, Xabi stayed that season and played out of his skin, and was sold, by mutual consent, the following season for a larger fee than would have been got previously. Rafa would have been gone had it not been for his bond with the fans. He it was who kept us informed about what the two tumours were up to, giving us a chance to try and stop it. As for the football, yes he was cautious at times but we also played some really fantastic football at other times. We played his Valencia in pre season a couple of times and they were a class side beating us easily, so when Moores decided to replace Houllier, Rafa was the man he wanted. He and Parry went over one Sunday morning to sell the club to him, no agents or anything. If your team were playing Barca in a CL match I'm sure you'd be more than happy with a great defensive display. No English club fans liked Rafa, including your own, (I've read the LFC thread) nor did the media or the usual boring English managers. None had a good word to say about him, but we knew we had a diamond of a man and coach within the first week, just by watching his interviews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheBallWinner Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 More 6-0's to come! https://theballwinner.net/2016/09/15/the-myth-of-the-defensive-minded-rafael-benitez/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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