Optimistic Nut Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Leicester criticism is mental to me. To me it's the exception last season that's to be lauded, not the return to normality that's to be criticised. Exactly. Just highlights even further what a miracle that group of players and manager produced last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Leicester criticism is mental to me. To me it's the exception last season that's to be lauded, not the return to normality that's to be criticised. But the reason they are criticised is because the return to normality has happened because they didn't take advantage of last season. Spunked away a substantial amount of money last season on average players. They had an opportunity to buy players that otherwise they'd never have been able to attract due to playing in the CL. Similar to us finishing 5th, we didn't build on it either. The only player they didn't hold on to was Kante and that was his own decision. League title or not, they're still Leicester, they could have bought better players, but then what do you do with the team that won you the title? Adding one or two is fine, but replacing any of the back four, Vardy and Mahrez would be upsetting the chemistry that got them there. As it happened, they bought players that are still much better than they could have expected imo. They were never going to expand upon last season, the whole thing was a miracle, not a plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Leicester criticism is mental to me. To me it's the exception last season that's to be lauded, not the return to normality that's to be criticised. But the reason they are criticised is because the return to normality has happened because they didn't take advantage of last season. Spunked away a substantial amount of money last season on average players. They had an opportunity to buy players that otherwise they'd never have been able to attract due to playing in the CL. Similar to us finishing 5th, we didn't build on it either. The only player they didn't hold on to was Kante and that was his own decision. League title or not, they're still Leicester, they could have bought better players, but then what do you do with the team that won you the title? Adding one or two is fine, but replacing any of the back four, Vardy and Mahrez would be upsetting the chemistry that got them there. As it happened, they bought players that are still much better than they could have expected imo. They were never going to expand upon last season, the whole thing was a miracle, not a plan. Its not just about holding onto players, it's to do with buying in better quality. Nobody needed to tell them that 90% of their squad were playing way above their stations. They should have bought better players than the likes of Huth, Morgan, Simpson, Drinkwater, Albrighton and improved on what they had. Whether or not it was a miracle or not, there are loads of players that they could have bought which would have improved their team and given them every opportunity to be knocking onto EL qualification this season and establishing themselves as a PL team rather than fighting relegation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 They won the title in this day and age, where the "big clubs" have tried to monopolise it. That's to be lauded and championed, not ridiculed when they don't do it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 hojbjerg's shooting is appalling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 They won the title in this day and age, where the "big clubs" have tried to monopolise it. That's to be lauded and championed, not ridiculed when they don't do it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Nobody is ridiculing them for not winning the league ffs, they are being ridiculed for fighting relegation when they should have built on last season and established themselves as a PL team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 It's really not ridiculous to expect that although last season was a phenomenal achievement, and expecting them to repeat it is absurd, it's also the case that they should be expected to be better than fighting relegation. Slimani was nearly double our record transfer. Expectations change when you drop £50 million on attackers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 It's really not ridiculous to expect that although last season was a phenomenal achievement, and expecting them to repeat it is absurd, it's also the case that they should be expected to be better than fighting relegation. Slimani was nearly double our record transfer. Expectations change when you drop £50 million on attackers. They look really poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 It's really not ridiculous to expect that although last season was a phenomenal achievement, and expecting them to repeat it is absurd, it's also the case that they should be expected to be better than fighting relegation. Slimani was nearly double our record transfer. Expectations change when you drop £50 million on attackers. Nailed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Total pity taken on Leicester there. He wasn't offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Linesman saving Leicester there, never offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Leicester criticism is mental to me. To me it's the exception last season that's to be lauded, not the return to normality that's to be criticised. But the reason they are criticised is because the return to normality has happened because they didn't take advantage of last season. Spunked away a substantial amount of money last season on average players. They had an opportunity to buy players that otherwise they'd never have been able to attract due to playing in the CL. Similar to us finishing 5th, we didn't build on it either. The only player they didn't hold on to was Kante and that was his own decision. League title or not, they're still Leicester, they could have bought better players, but then what do you do with the team that won you the title? Adding one or two is fine, but replacing any of the back four, Vardy and Mahrez would be upsetting the chemistry that got them there. As it happened, they bought players that are still much better than they could have expected imo. They were never going to expand upon last season, the whole thing was a miracle, not a plan. Its not just about holding onto players, it's to do with buying in better quality. Nobody needed to tell them that 90% of their squad were playing way above their stations. They should have bought better players than the likes of Huth, Morgan, Simpson, Drinkwater, Albrighton and improved on what they had. Whether or not it was a miracle or not, there are loads of players that they could have bought which would have improved their team and given them every opportunity to be knocking onto EL qualification this season and establishing themselves as a PL team rather than fighting relegation. I just don't understand how you can expect a team to do what you're expecting. Hold on to it's best players. Which they did apart from Kante. Dismantle the defense/team that kept 15 clean sheets last season, regardless of what you think of the quality of the players. Improve on Drinkwater, who was excellent last season and has looked like one of their best when I've seen them this season. Who are the players they could have signed to improve their team that they could have realistically signed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Leicester criticism is mental to me. To me it's the exception last season that's to be lauded, not the return to normality that's to be criticised. But the reason they are criticised is because the return to normality has happened because they didn't take advantage of last season. Spunked away a substantial amount of money last season on average players. They had an opportunity to buy players that otherwise they'd never have been able to attract due to playing in the CL. Similar to us finishing 5th, we didn't build on it either. The only player they didn't hold on to was Kante and that was his own decision. League title or not, they're still Leicester, they could have bought better players, but then what do you do with the team that won you the title? Adding one or two is fine, but replacing any of the back four, Vardy and Mahrez would be upsetting the chemistry that got them there. As it happened, they bought players that are still much better than they could have expected imo. They were never going to expand upon last season, the whole thing was a miracle, not a plan. Its not just about holding onto players, it's to do with buying in better quality. Nobody needed to tell them that 90% of their squad were playing way above their stations. They should have bought better players than the likes of Huth, Morgan, Simpson, Drinkwater, Albrighton and improved on what they had. Whether or not it was a miracle or not, there are loads of players that they could have bought which would have improved their team and given them every opportunity to be knocking onto EL qualification this season and establishing themselves as a PL team rather than fighting relegation. I just don't understand how you can expect a team to do what you're expecting. Hold on to it's best players. Which they did apart from Kante. Dismantle the defense/team that kept 15 clean sheets last season, regardless of what you think of the quality of the players. Improve on Drinkwater, who was excellent last season and has looked like one of their best when I've seen them this season. Who are the players they could have signed to improve their team that they could have realistically signed? This is why you were voted as one of the worst posters on here, you're just clueless and pick random arguments that you talk total shit about. See ponsaelius' post a few up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 As if this lot won the league ffs You hate an underdog like, Newcastle excluded It's a strange obsession why he hates leicester's success but loves real madrid's so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 As if this lot won the league ffs You hate an underdog like, Newcastle excluded eh, nowt to do with "hating" Leicester (I dont). Simply pointing out that this (and other this season) performance make last year even more ridiculous. One player difference and they're almost relegation candidates.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 What position do people think Leicester should be realistically finishing, as a matter of interest? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 As if this lot won the league ffs You hate an underdog like, Newcastle excluded eh, nowt to do with "hating" Leicester (I dont). Simply pointing out that this (and other this season) performance make last year even more ridiculous. One player difference.. Haven't you said you wanted them to get relegated before? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 As if this lot won the league ffs You hate an underdog like, Newcastle excluded eh, nowt to do with "hating" Leicester (I dont). Simply pointing out that this (and other this season) performance make last year even more ridiculous. One player difference.. Haven't you said you wanted them to get relegated before? aye. Wouldnt mind Swansea going either. Doesnt mean I hate them. The hate is reserved for the mackems and Palace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 The Leicester criticism is mental to me. To me it's the exception last season that's to be lauded, not the return to normality that's to be criticised. But the reason they are criticised is because the return to normality has happened because they didn't take advantage of last season. Spunked away a substantial amount of money last season on average players. They had an opportunity to buy players that otherwise they'd never have been able to attract due to playing in the CL. Similar to us finishing 5th, we didn't build on it either. The only player they didn't hold on to was Kante and that was his own decision. League title or not, they're still Leicester, they could have bought better players, but then what do you do with the team that won you the title? Adding one or two is fine, but replacing any of the back four, Vardy and Mahrez would be upsetting the chemistry that got them there. As it happened, they bought players that are still much better than they could have expected imo. They were never going to expand upon last season, the whole thing was a miracle, not a plan. Its not just about holding onto players, it's to do with buying in better quality. Nobody needed to tell them that 90% of their squad were playing way above their stations. They should have bought better players than the likes of Huth, Morgan, Simpson, Drinkwater, Albrighton and improved on what they had. Whether or not it was a miracle or not, there are loads of players that they could have bought which would have improved their team and given them every opportunity to be knocking onto EL qualification this season and establishing themselves as a PL team rather than fighting relegation. I just don't understand how you can expect a team to do what you're expecting. Hold on to it's best players. Which they did apart from Kante. Dismantle the defense/team that kept 15 clean sheets last season, regardless of what you think of the quality of the players. Improve on Drinkwater, who was excellent last season and has looked like one of their best when I've seen them this season. Who are the players they could have signed to improve their team that they could have realistically signed? I'll answer your points though. 1. I've already said, it's not just about holding onto your best players. 2. Simpson, Huth and Morgan are very average players (lower PL/upper Championship) and Leicester knew that. They were also part of the Leicester defence that nearly got relegated the season before. These are players who played out of their skin for one season and were incredible. However, Mike Williamson also did that for us when we finished 5th. Doesn't stop them being turd and need improving on. 3. See the above but change the names to Drinkwater. In relation to signings one obvious example from todays game... Would Van Dijk have moved for CL football? Probably. Would he be a vast improvement to the team? Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 KI's world class Morgan giving away a pen after his early reprieved own goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 pel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 Vardy must regret sticking with Leicester after the Arsenal interest, awful this season the lot of them. completely forgot about this christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 KI's world class Morgan giving away a pen after his early reprieved own goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 22, 2017 Share Posted January 22, 2017 It's really not ridiculous to expect that although last season was a phenomenal achievement, and expecting them to repeat it is absurd, it's also the case that they should be expected to be better than fighting relegation. Slimani was nearly double our record transfer. Expectations change when you drop £50 million on attackers. They're 5 points above the relegation places and have been saving their stronger players for the Champions League until recently. To say they're battling relegation simply isn't true at this stage. They could have bought exactly the right one or two players and probably not improved/consolidated imo. The criticism comes because they set a rod for their own backs and now people expect those same players to retain a proportion of the form they had last season, but also to bring in new players who'll do it for them. Their signings weren't wow signings, but neither were Mahrez and Kante, Leicester made them. Aside from that, Slimani's their top scorer as well btw, he's just better than 1 in 3, which isn't bad considering it's a new league/the team's underperforming. I get what people are saying like, I just think it's canny unreasonable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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