STM Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Seems we've gone back to release clauses and unproven foreign players to me. We will see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Seems we've gone back to release clauses and unproven foreign players to me. We will see. Its a bit different with Rafa though, as we are buying players that he has scouted, vetted and more importantly are fit for purpose, instead of buy random players with shit professionalism, with the aim of selling them on for profit instead of if they will fit into the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 We will see what happens if Rafa wants to spend decent wedge on a proven premiership player. Will they sanction it? I'm yet to evidence that they will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's been said that we will break our transfer record this window too. I've yet to see us linked to a player which would command such a fee. I'm aware it's only June but I'm starting to see the usual signs from the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 One of the reasons is probably what Mark Douglas said in his Facebook video yesterday. We have 34 senior players in the squad atm and need to move on some of them before we start buying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 When you see the price for a PL player (and being a PL player is in no way at all any guarantee of success in any event), buying abroad is entirely logical. No problems at all with this approach. Seems to be this slightly odd view that we must buy PL players and I don't really get it. 17m for Maguire after 1 season? Delphi for 15m after not playing for a couple of seasons? 15m for Rodriguez after 2 serious injuries? Absolutely ridiculous to go near those Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I think he's probably right too. I don't know how we are going to ship some of our players. Riviere, De Jong, Krul, Hanley, Murphy, Gamez, Haidara, Lazaar?, all need peddled. We could sign first and then sell our players for lower fee. Not our tight arses though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's been said that we will break our transfer record this window too. I've yet to see us linked to a player which would command such a fee. I'm aware it's only June but I'm starting to see the usual signs from the club. I suppose just because he might have it to spend doesn't mean he will. If he's gonna spend big I reckon it'll be for a winger or a striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 We will see what happens if Rafa wants to spend decent wedge on a proven premiership player. Will they sanction it? I'm yet to evidence that they will. I doubt we will either. We just aren't ready to compete in a market with 5 or 6 clubs who will be paying 45-50 million for defenders. Rafa is a very intelligent manager and knows where we are. We will have to be very savvy in the transfer market to kick on to the next stage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's correct to say that theres no guarantee of success when it comes to transfers but it will be interesting to see how many of our deals are; last year of contract, loan to buy, release clauses. Seems a quick way to narrow down your shortlist IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's been said that we will break our transfer record this window too. I've yet to see us linked to a player which would command such a fee. I'm aware it's only June but I'm starting to see the usual signs from the club. Cairney, McCarthy, King and Sturridge have all been linked and all of them would break our record going off fee's mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's been said that we will break our transfer record this window too. I've yet to see us linked to a player which would command such a fee. I'm aware it's only June but I'm starting to see the usual signs from the club. Cairney, McCarthy, King and Sturridge have all been linked and all of them would break our record going off fee's mentioned. Aye but are we not interested in those players BECAUSE they are overpriced and therefore we aren't willing to go above the 16m mark on them? Apparently Kelechi (can't spell surname) is available, but I don't think I've seen us linked to him? We should be paying 20/25m for him, easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leazes_End_Mag Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 It's been said that we will break our transfer record this window too. I've yet to see us linked to a player which would command such a fee. I'm aware it's only June but I'm starting to see the usual signs from the club. Cairney, McCarthy, King and Sturridge have all been linked and all of them would break our record going off fee's mentioned. Aye but are we not interested in those players BECAUSE they are overpriced and therefore we aren't willing to go above the 16m mark on them? Apparently Kelechi (can't spell surname) is available, but I don't think I've seen us linked to him? We should be paying 20/25m for him, easy. You may be right. Completely agree on Iheanacho too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 We will see what happens if Rafa wants to spend decent wedge on a proven premiership player. Will they sanction it? I'm yet to evidence that they will. I doubt we will either. We just aren't ready to compete in a market with 5 or 6 clubs who will be paying 45-50 million for defenders. Rafa is a very intelligent manager and knows where we are. We will have to be very savvy in the transfer market to kick on to the next stage. Yeah I'd like to think this is the case, looking at the fees for UK players we're unlikely to be signing many and doing the squad rebuild required at the same time. Squad will have to be fleshed out with what the club see as good deals from abroad and if we can sort out a deal or two for Brits they'll do it. At least that's what I'm hoping :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Surely there's quite a big market below the '45-50 million for defenders' tier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Ambition also attracts players. If we are seen to be paying big fees, which these days is probably between 20-30m, other players will see that we are honest in our ambition for success. I'm not saying we should be daft and pay for players like Sissoko (Spurs only did that because they could afford the risk). IMO, for every smart signing like Lejeune, I'd like to see an ambitious one to complement it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Surely there's quite a big market below the '45-50 million for defenders' tier. Sure, but you're looking at ~£20m for a standard British player these days, at least a PL level one. We'd be lucky to bring in 4 or 5 players at those prices this summer, therefore I suspect the bulk of our business will be done abroad again. Hopefully we can balance that out a bit better as Rafa gets things stabilised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 The £17-£18m for Maguire and Mangala is about right. Once we've been back up a season with the Sky riches, I think that will be the new £10-12m for us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Didn't we have a £25m bid rejected for Berahino before we went down? With money only increasing then, if the club see value in a £20-30m transfer, I'd like to think we'd make the move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Didn't we have a £25m bid rejected for Berahino before we went down? With money only increasing then, if the club see value in a £20-30m transfer, I'd like to think we'd make the move. We were probably counting on that move getting us the Sky money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Joe_F Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 So The Chronicle say there's nowt in it and The Echo say we're pressing ahead !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I'm 100% confident we won't spend more than £15m on a single player. Next summer maybe. We need too many players to spend a third of the budget on one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Didn't we have a £25m bid rejected for Berahino before we went down? With money only increasing then, if the club see value in a £20-30m transfer, I'd like to think we'd make the move. Before he went for 12m to Stoke a year later. And they probably even over payed for him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 I'm 100% confident we won't spend more than £15m on a single player. Next summer maybe. We need too many players to spend a third of the budget on one. We spent some 12m on Ritchie in the Championship? If the right player is available I don't think we will restrict ourselves to that. We need one striker, winger, CM, CH and a GK on priority and that should be covered by our budget. Personally can't wait for some1 to displace Owen as our record signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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