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If you blame the manager for the mistakes that Lovren is making and has done throughout his time at Liverpool, then you've got to say the same for someone like Steven Taylor ffs.

 

Klopp has issues at the back and quite a bit of the blame has to go on him in terms of recruitment etc, but some of the criticism of him is well OTT.

So don't play him then

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Watch Henderson. He's supposed to be captain, yet stands around either marked by Spurs players, or too close to the ball carrier that he can't be passed to. Absolute fraud.

Yeah that's horseshit.

 

It isn't. He's your bog standard English midfielder with no intelligence armed with lots of pointless running and the devastating sideways pass.

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Liverpool could've signed another defender. If it's all Dejan Lovren's fault. They sold one for almost £30m could've brought in another.

 

I don't get why people are still bringing this up :lol: Literally nobody is denying they should have done a better job at building a solid defence.

 

 

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Watch Henderson. He's supposed to be captain, yet stands around either marked by Spurs players, or too close to the ball carrier that he can't be passed to. Absolute fraud.

Yeah that's horseshit.

 

It isn't. He's your bog standard English midfielder with no intelligence armed with lots of pointless running and the sideways pass.

 

That's not what you said though is it? What you originally said was horseshit.

 

Even then that's bollocks, he plays first time balls forward very often, hence his assist today.

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Watch Henderson. He's supposed to be captain, yet stands around either marked by Spurs players, or too close to the ball carrier that he can't be passed to. Absolute fraud.

Yeah that's horseshit.

 

It isn't. He's your bog standard English midfielder with no intelligence armed with lots of pointless running and the sideways pass.

 

That's not what you said though is it? What you originally said was horseshit.

 

Even then that's bollocks, he plays first time balls forward very often, hence his assist today.

 

When I typed that up, I watched him for ten minutes do nothing other than stand around the center circle and point fingers. He's average at best and a bottler on top of that. Carry on though.

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This isn't a reason to not get rid of Klopp, but i genuinely get the impression that people think that if someone else came in they'd be a lock for CL places. ( hell they might finish there anyway)

 

I'm really not seeing that, they have a shit defence and an imbalanced midfield(again Klopp takes blame for some of that) and there's at least 3 teams who are vastly better to the point that without ridiculously good investment i really don't see how any managers makes them break into the top 3.

 

Manchester sides and Spurs are just flat out better.

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This isn't a reason to not get rid of Klopp, but i genuinely get the impression that people think that if someone else came in they'd be a lock for CL places. ( hell they might finish there anyway)

 

I'm really not seeing that, they have a shit defence and an imbalanced midfield(again Klopp takes blame for some of that) and there's at least 3 teams who are vastly better to the point that without ridiculously good investment i really don't see how any managers makes them break into the top 3.

 

Manchester sides and Spurs are just flat out better.

They have less points than us. That's the issue, not the fact they can't compete with the top three

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Losing to Man City and Spurs isn't the end of the world but they've drawn to us, Burnley and Watford  this season and it was the same last season that they seemed to struggle to beat the poorer teams

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This isn't a reason to not get rid of Klopp, but i genuinely get the impression that people think that if someone else came in they'd be a lock for CL places. ( hell they might finish there anyway)

 

I'm really not seeing that, they have a s*** defence and an imbalanced midfield(again Klopp takes blame for some of that) and there's at least 3 teams who are vastly better to the point that without ridiculously good investment i really don't see how any managers makes them break into the top 3.

 

Manchester sides and Spurs are just flat out better.

They have less points than us. That's the issue, not the fact they can't compete with the top three

 

Aye but they won't for long, don't get me wrong it would be a laugh if they did but i can't see it. I mean Burnley and Watford are in the same area :lol: Table means fuck all at the moment.

 

They are 3 points off Chelsea in 4th and that's the objective, get it and it's a good season considering what's above them.

 

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Watch Henderson. He's supposed to be captain, yet stands around either marked by Spurs players, or too close to the ball carrier that he can't be passed to. Absolute fraud.

Yeah that's horseshit.

 

It isn't. He's your bog standard English midfielder with no intelligence armed with lots of pointless running and the sideways pass.

 

That's not what you said though is it? What you originally said was horseshit.

 

Even then that's bollocks, he plays first time balls forward very often, hence his assist today.

 

When I typed that up, I watched him for ten minutes do nothing other than stand around the center circle and point fingers. He's average at best and a bottler on top of that. Carry on though.

10 minutes, in a match where he's assisted with an amazing through ball and Liverpool are 4-1 down. Conclusive. [emoji38] Try watching them more often and it might dawn on you that the above is comprehensive tosh.

 

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This isn't a reason to not get rid of Klopp, but i genuinely get the impression that people think that if someone else came in they'd be a lock for CL places. ( hell they might finish there anyway)

 

I'm really not seeing that, they have a s*** defence and an imbalanced midfield(again Klopp takes blame for some of that) and there's at least 3 teams who are vastly better to the point that without ridiculously good investment i really don't see how any managers makes them break into the top 3.

 

Manchester sides and Spurs are just flat out better.

 

He shouldn't be sacked at all. But he could be doing a better job. Hes's very specific in his requirements and asks a lot from his players, without trying to limit their weakneses.

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This isn't a reason to not get rid of Klopp, but i genuinely get the impression that people think that if someone else came in they'd be a lock for CL places. ( hell they might finish there anyway)

 

I'm really not seeing that, they have a s*** defence and an imbalanced midfield(again Klopp takes blame for some of that) and there's at least 3 teams who are vastly better to the point that without ridiculously good investment i really don't see how any managers makes them break into the top 3.

 

Manchester sides and Spurs are just flat out better.

They have less points than us. That's the issue, not the fact they can't compete with the top three

 

Aye but they won't for long, don't get me wrong it would be a laugh if they did but i can't see it. I mean Burnley and Watford are in the same area :lol: Table means fuck all at the moment.

 

They are 3 points off Chelsea in 4th and that's the objective, get it and it's a good season considering what's above them.

I think they'll probably finish 6th but even that isn't really the larger point. The same issues have been there for all of Klopp's reign and he and whoever is in charge of recruitment haven't done anything to improve anything

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Watch Henderson. He's supposed to be captain, yet stands around either marked by Spurs players, or too close to the ball carrier that he can't be passed to. Absolute fraud.

Yeah that's horseshit.

 

It isn't. He's your bog standard English midfielder with no intelligence armed with lots of pointless running and the sideways pass.

 

That's not what you said though is it? What you originally said was horseshit.

 

Even then that's bollocks, he plays first time balls forward very often, hence his assist today.

 

When I typed that up, I watched him for ten minutes do nothing other than stand around the center circle and point fingers. He's average at best and a bottler on top of that. Carry on though.

10 minutes, in a match where he's assisted with an amazing through ball and Liverpool are 4-1 down. Conclusive. [emoji38] Try watching them more often and it might dawn on you that the above is comprehensive tosh.

 

I have seen them a lot more than I probably should. I have also spoken to many Liverpool fans who are starting to wake up to the fact that he's a fraud who has one good game in ten, offers no protection to the defence or much goalscoring threat. He might do as a squad player for them, but being their captain, for there they want to be, is a fucking joke like.

 

Whether I'm right or wrong in your opinion, I really couldn't care less :lol:

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