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Is this the internet message board version of when the AIDS is no longer treatable? This fucking section these days. :anguish:

 

To think, I felt a bit bad for covmag when he was deemed the worst poster on the board in the match thread. Sums it up that ShinPad was the knight in shitey armour that jumped in to defend him.

 

Kaiz would have made a killing on the forum award nominations tonight if all the negative awards were still in there

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Is this the internet message board version of when the AIDS is no longer treatable? This fucking section these days. :anguish:

 

To think, I felt a bit bad for covmag when he was deemed the worst poster on the board in the match thread. Sums it up that ShinPad was the knight in shitey armour that jumped in to defend him.

 

Kaiz would have made a killing on the forum award nominations tonight if all the negative awards were still in there

 

Probably would've been the first year I'd have felt enough conviction to go out of my way and nominate.

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You do all realise that Rafa doesn't have the same team that Allardyce and Souness had aye? You realise that with the amount of money that those two had he won the Champions League and the FA Cup?

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Is this the internet message board version of when the AIDS is no longer treatable? This f***ing section these days. :anguish:

 

To think, I felt a bit bad for covmag when he was deemed the worst poster on the board in the match thread. Sums it up that ShinPad was the knight in shitey armour that jumped in to defend him.

 

 

You know those radgies I was on about who post utter dogshit...

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You do all realise that Rafa doesn't have the same team that Allardyce and Souness had aye? You realise that with the amount of money that those two had he won the Champions League and the FA Cup?

 

That’s exactly what I was saying. He hasn’t had anywhere near that kind of money to spend, so we have a watered down version of Rafa, which results in awful players and awful football. There is no point in having a manger with his pedigree to then handicap him. The whole thing is just depressing, including the utter shit football he resorts to having to play.

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I don't understand how people can watch our current team and deem this to be Rafa's style of play.

 

It is not his style of play. It is the players at his disposal. In order to stay in this league we have to be a more pragmatic side due to the the players we have.

 

It shouldn't be so hard to understand this at all.

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Is this the internet message board version of when the AIDS is no longer treatable? This f***ing section these days. :anguish:

 

To think, I felt a bit bad for covmag when he was deemed the worst poster on the board in the match thread. Sums it up that ShinPad was the knight in shitey armour that jumped in to defend him.

 

 

You know those radgies I was on about who post utter dogshit...

 

:lol: Knowing we're not on the same page is a badge of honour for my sanity right now tbf so thanks for clarifying. O0

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Away form is fine, we consistently pick up points and can sit deep and play on the counter.

 

We need to change something at home though. We need to beat the shite at home to stay up, and playing like this isn't going to cut it.

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We all love the thought of Rafa and his pedigree, but it is all absolutely pointless with the watered down handicapped version we have. It’s not enjoyable for anyone on any sort of level. The football is as bad and dull as the shit churned out by prior twats like fat Sam and Souness but we all hang in hope that it’s Rafa and we will be ok. But what’s the point of having him when he can’t remotely do his job to the best of his ability. What it has resorted to is the dullest football we have had to witness in god knows how long. Starting to think we would be better off with some other duffer as at least then we would know we would be shit and not hoping for more. Like hoying a boxer in the ring with his arms tied behind his back. He needs to go so we can get back to being furious at the shit that is churned up.

 

Agree with this, there is no excuse for the abhorrent football we play even if the players are shit. Pay Howe 6million a year and we'd be more entertaining and more successful. Rafa staying here is a huge problem on so many levels now.

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This man went from one of the greatest comebacks of all times in the champions league final against an A.C Milan side packed with football legends to scrapping a draw at home to a team managed by Tony Mowbray and lead by Danny Graham.

 

Aye makes you wonder what the fuck he is still doing here.

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Away form is fine, we consistently pick up points and can sit deep and play on the counter.

 

We need to change something at home though. We need to beat the shite at home to stay up, and playing like this isn't going to cut it.

 

How would you set this team up to take the initiative to teams? Please enlighten us all if you don't mind.

 

We look to invite teams onto us and then capitalise on the counter all the time, because that is how we are most effective.

 

At home teams aren't looking to attack us as much and so it doesn't work the same way.

 

At this point I am desperately hoping Rafa leaves or gets fired, and we get in someone that sets this team up to play on the "front foot", which is the answer to all our ills apparently.

 

Then we'll see how things turn out. Maybe that will show people some sense.

 

We really do deserve the wretched managers we have been cursed with in recent years.

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Away form is fine, we consistently pick up points and can sit deep and play on the counter.

 

We need to change something at home though. We need to beat the s**** at home to stay up, and playing like this isn't going to cut it.

 

How would you set this team up to take the initiative to teams? Please enlighten us all if you don't mind.

 

We look to invite teams onto us and then capitalise on the counter all the time, because that is how we are most effective.

 

At home teams aren't looking to attack us as much and so it doesn't work the same way.

 

At this point I am desperately hoping Rafa leaves or gets fired, and we get in someone that sets this team up to play on the "front foot", which is the answer to all our ills apparently.

 

Then we'll see how things turn out. Maybe that will show people some sense.

 

We really do deserve the wretched managers we have been cursed with in recent years.

 

Wow.

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Away form is fine, we consistently pick up points and can sit deep and play on the counter.

 

We need to change something at home though. We need to beat the shite at home to stay up, and playing like this isn't going to cut it.

 

How would you set this team up to take the initiative to teams? Please enlighten us all if you don't mind.

 

We look to invite teams onto us and then capitalise on the counter all the time, because that is how we are most effective.

 

At home teams aren't looking to attack us as much and so it doesn't work the same way.

 

At this point I am desperately hoping Rafa leaves or gets fired, and we get in someone that sets this team up to play on the "front foot", which is the answer to all our ills apparently.

 

Then we'll see how things turn out. Maybe that will show people some sense.

 

We really do deserve the wretched managers we have been cursed with in recent years.

 

Most effective? You do realise we have only won twice all season at home don’t you? Our home form pretty much proves that the style of play we endure is anything but effective.

 

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Away form is fine, we consistently pick up points and can sit deep and play on the counter.

 

We need to change something at home though. We need to beat the s**** at home to stay up, and playing like this isn't going to cut it.

 

How would you set this team up to take the initiative to teams? Please enlighten us all if you don't mind.

 

We look to invite teams onto us and then capitalise on the counter all the time, because that is how we are most effective.

 

At home teams aren't looking to attack us as much and so it doesn't work the same way.

 

At this point I am desperately hoping Rafa leaves or gets fired, and we get in someone that sets this team up to play on the "front foot", which is the answer to all our ills apparently.

 

Then we'll see how things turn out. Maybe that will show people some sense.

 

We really do deserve the wretched managers we have been cursed with in recent years.

 

Wow.

"Welcome to the Jungle" started playing outta nowhere as I was reading that :lol:
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Away form is fine, we consistently pick up points and can sit deep and play on the counter.

 

We need to change something at home though. We need to beat the shite at home to stay up, and playing like this isn't going to cut it.

 

How would you set this team up to take the initiative to teams? Please enlighten us all if you don't mind.

 

We look to invite teams onto us and then capitalise on the counter all the time, because that is how we are most effective.

 

At home teams aren't looking to attack us as much and so it doesn't work the same way.

 

At this point I am desperately hoping Rafa leaves or gets fired, and we get in someone that sets this team up to play on the "front foot", which is the answer to all our ills apparently.

 

Then we'll see how things turn out. Maybe that will show people some sense.

 

We really do deserve the wretched managers we have been cursed with in recent years.

 

Inviting the pressure on is how we are most effective when we're away I agree. But when its not working as well at home then don't use the same tactics at home. Push up a bit further, press the other team a bit more, get people up around Rondon for breaks, we don't have to go gung ho but we need to be a bit more ambitious than we are now when at home

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Away form is fine, we consistently pick up points and can sit deep and play on the counter.

 

We need to change something at home though. We need to beat the shite at home to stay up, and playing like this isn't going to cut it.

 

How would you set this team up to take the initiative to teams? Please enlighten us all if you don't mind.

 

We look to invite teams onto us and then capitalise on the counter all the time, because that is how we are most effective.

 

At home teams aren't looking to attack us as much and so it doesn't work the same way.

 

At this point I am desperately hoping Rafa leaves or gets fired, and we get in someone that sets this team up to play on the "front foot", which is the answer to all our ills apparently.

 

Then we'll see how things turn out. Maybe that will show people some sense.

 

We really do deserve the wretched managers we have been cursed with in recent years.

 

Inviting the pressure on is how we are most effective when we're away I agree. But when its not working as well at home then don't use the same tactics at home. Push up a bit further, press the other team a bit more, get people up around Rondon for breaks, we don't have to go gung ho but we need to be a bit more ambitious than we are now when at home

 

That all sounds great, and I am pretty certain the manager we have is professional enough and knowledgeable enough to know that.

 

He is working with these players everyday on the training pitch, and so there has to be a reason he is not going with that approach.

 

Personally, I have not seen anything from the players we have to make me feel as though they can play the way you have described.

 

Now if we had the team we had with Cisse, Ba, Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Tiote and we were playing the way we are under Rafa, then I'd be perplexed, and would agree with you wholeheartedly.

 

For me I just don't see it with our current players. I think they'd be a disaster setup like that.

 

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that if you feel differently.

 

Fulham came into the season playing that way and were getting blasted. Conceding a ton of goals and sitting at the bottom of the league. I'm pretty confident they have a better squad than ours.

 

People will say we have much better defenders, but I wouldn't even be so sure. I think it appears that way because we have been so well organised to defend first.

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Away form is fine, we consistently pick up points and can sit deep and play on the counter.

 

We need to change something at home though. We need to beat the shite at home to stay up, and playing like this isn't going to cut it.

 

How would you set this team up to take the initiative to teams? Please enlighten us all if you don't mind.

 

We look to invite teams onto us and then capitalise on the counter all the time, because that is how we are most effective.

 

At home teams aren't looking to attack us as much and so it doesn't work the same way.

 

At this point I am desperately hoping Rafa leaves or gets fired, and we get in someone that sets this team up to play on the "front foot", which is the answer to all our ills apparently.

 

Then we'll see how things turn out. Maybe that will show people some sense.

 

We really do deserve the wretched managers we have been cursed with in recent years.

 

Inviting the pressure on is how we are most effective when we're away I agree. But when its not working as well at home then don't use the same tactics at home. Push up a bit further, press the other team a bit more, get people up around Rondon for breaks, we don't have to go gung ho but we need to be a bit more ambitious than we are now when at home

 

That all sounds great, and I am pretty certain the manager we have is professional enough and knowledgeable enough to know that.

 

He is working with these players everyday on the training pitch, and so there has to be a reason he is not going with that approach.

 

Personally, I have not seen anything from the players we have to make me feel as though they can play the way you have described.

 

Now if we had the team we had with Cisse, Ba, Ben Arfa, Cabaye and Tiote and we were playing the way we are under Rafa, then I'd be perplexed, and would agree with you wholeheartedly.

 

For me I just don't see it with our current players. I think they'd be a disaster setup like that.

 

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree on that if you feel differently.

 

Fulham came into the season playing that way and were getting blasted. Conceding a ton of goals and sitting at the bottom of the league. I'm pretty confident they have a better squad than ours.

 

People will say we have much better defenders, but I wouldn't even be so sure. I think it appears that way because we have been so well organised to defend first.

I just said not to go gung ho but to be a bit more ambitious. I don't want us to play like Fulham did at the start of the season. Read ffs.

 

Absolutely any team can play in the way I just described, push up a bit, press a bit more, get more bodies around the striker, its the most basic stuff in the world

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Okay, fair enough. Difference of opinion.

 

I think we'd get opened up so easily if we tried to press in any fashion.

 

We'd have to use a very different set of players if we were to press. Shelvey and Ki wouldn't feature in such a team IMO. This would then severely hamper our play going forward.

 

I just think the team is a mess.

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