samptime29 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 He's working with the worst PL squad we've ever had quality wise. Think some people (myself included) forget that sometimes. having said that, it isn't unfair to say he doesn't help himself with team selections and substitutions sometimes like This is clearly it for me. I totally get he's working with a fairly poor squad overall, but the lack of Mitro, the Joselu love, the lack of subs. IMO they're things he can improve on. Really thought, he'd go with a Merino, Shelvey, Hayden midfield 3. The Diame pick is wank. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 The last three matches have had dramatically different teams and formations. Maybe there's only me that noticed this. Think he matched them up after the Watford farce and them also playing 3 at the back. Started well but alas it didn't work but I'm not sure anything would've done today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I've got total faith in him, like. I've been keen to see a 352, and specifically Ritchie at wing-back. I'd like to expressee it tried again against a weaker team tbh, in spite of Ritchie's brainfart. I just wish Rafa would react a bit quicker. Him experimenting with different formations is really nice to see going forward like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 I've got total faith in him, like. I've been keen to see a 352, and specifically Ritchie at wing-back. I'd like to see it tried again against a weaker team tbh, in spite of Ritchie's brainfart. I just wish Rafa would react a bit quicker. Can't play Ritchie there again. It wasn't just one brainfart. Not quick enough to be a wing back regardless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Also must be said... we haven't looked decent defensively in the PL for any stretch of time without Lascelles in the team dating back to the relegation season. Defensively the team that got relegated isn't any worse than this one man for man apart from Lascelles improvement. Maybe Clark. Lejeune is Colo Clown status right now. Dummett injured for long periods again and poor replacements. And RB's that leak goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 The tv pundits were all expecting us to get rinsed today, and it's not because we have a bad manager. That tells you what neutrals think of our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Aye Rithcie is a huge dillema. On one hand he must start for set-pieces. But he doesn't offer much if anything in general play Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 The last three matches have had dramatically different teams and formations. Maybe there's only me that noticed this. That’s why the whole ‘shit tactics’ and ‘stubborn manager’ comments are so fucking ridiculous. He’s trying everything he can to get us back on track - different lineups, different formations, different tactics etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of the comments on here and across social media are a bit disheartening. Rafas a man who takes intense pride in every aspect of his work, he'll be disappointed too. Good to hear the away contingent singing his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of the comments on here and across social media are a bit disheartening. Rafas a man who takes intense pride in every aspect of his work, he'll be disappointed too. Good to hear the sway contingent singing his name. A bit disheartening?! They’re fucking outrageous! I’m now starting to see why so many people give our fans grief for being thick and having unrealistic expectations. Some of the comments directed at Rafa are an absolute embarrassment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 He's working with the worst PL squad we've ever had quality wise. Think some people (myself included) forget that sometimes. Can’t argue with that to be fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of the comments on here and across social media are a bit disheartening. Rafas a man who takes intense pride in every aspect of his work, he'll be disappointed too. Good to hear the sway contingent singing his name. A bit disheartening?! They’re fucking outrageous! I’m now starting to see why so many people give our fans grief for being thick and having unrealistic expectations. Some of the comments directed at Rafa are an absolute embarrassment. Problem is, views like this make it appear that Benitez is infallible. He's making plenty of decisions that several disagree with. Loads of daft selections, subs, transfers. I get that he isn't being given a suitable budget to work with, but he has cocked up a lot this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 He’s fair game for criticism, it’s not like people are calling for his head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of the comments on here and across social media are a bit disheartening. Rafas a man who takes intense pride in every aspect of his work, he'll be disappointed too. Good to hear the sway contingent singing his name. A bit disheartening?! They’re f***ing outrageous! I’m now starting to see why so many people give our fans grief for being thick and having unrealistic expectations. Some of the comments directed at Rafa are an absolute embarrassment. Problem is, views like this make it appear that Benitez is infallible. He's making plenty of decisions that several disagree with. Loads of daft selections, subs, transfers. I get that he isn't being given a suitable budget to work with, but he has cocked up a lot this year. Cocked up according to who, you? Other world renowned football experts? I fucking love this armchair management stuff - ‘obviously we’d have won if Mitro started instead of Joselu and Shelvey played alongside Merino’. The sheer fucking arrogance of it is staggering! You’re talking about one of the best and most decorated managers in world football! We all have an opinion but being so certain that Rafa got this wrong or that wrong is laughable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of the comments on here and across social media are a bit disheartening. Rafas a man who takes intense pride in every aspect of his work, he'll be disappointed too. Good to hear the sway contingent singing his name. A bit disheartening?! They’re f***ing outrageous! I’m now starting to see why so many people give our fans grief for being thick and having unrealistic expectations. Some of the comments directed at Rafa are an absolute embarrassment. Problem is, views like this make it appear that Benitez is infallible. He's making plenty of decisions that several disagree with. Loads of daft selections, subs, transfers. I get that he isn't being given a suitable budget to work with, but he has cocked up a lot this year. Cocked up according to who, you? Other world renowned football experts? I fucking love this armchair management stuff - ‘obviously we’d have won if Mitro started instead of Joselu and Shelvey played alongside Merino’. The sheer fucking arrogance of it is staggering! You’re talking about one of the best and most decorated managers in world football! We all have an opinion but being so certain that Rafa got this wrong or that wrong is laughable. Oh right, no opinions allowed on a football forum. Gotcha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_69 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of the comments on here and across social media are a bit disheartening. Rafas a man who takes intense pride in every aspect of his work, he'll be disappointed too. Good to hear the sway contingent singing his name. A bit disheartening?! They’re f***ing outrageous! I’m now starting to see why so many people give our fans grief for being thick and having unrealistic expectations. Some of the comments directed at Rafa are an absolute embarrassment. Problem is, views like this make it appear that Benitez is infallible. He's making plenty of decisions that several disagree with. Loads of daft selections, subs, transfers. I get that he isn't being given a suitable budget to work with, but he has cocked up a lot this year. Cocked up according to who, you? Other world renowned football experts? I f***ing love this armchair management stuff - ‘obviously we’d have won if Mitro started instead of Joselu and Shelvey played alongside Merino’. The sheer f***ing arrogance of it is staggering! You’re talking about one of the best and most decorated managers in world football! We all have an opinion but being so certain that Rafa got this wrong or that wrong is laughable. Oh right, no opinions allowed on a football forum. Gotcha. You might want to read the last sentence of my post again Einstein ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 U2 get a room! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
U2 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of the comments on here and across social media are a bit disheartening. Rafas a man who takes intense pride in every aspect of his work, he'll be disappointed too. Good to hear the sway contingent singing his name. A bit disheartening?! They’re f***ing outrageous! I’m now starting to see why so many people give our fans grief for being thick and having unrealistic expectations. Some of the comments directed at Rafa are an absolute embarrassment. Problem is, views like this make it appear that Benitez is infallible. He's making plenty of decisions that several disagree with. Loads of daft selections, subs, transfers. I get that he isn't being given a suitable budget to work with, but he has cocked up a lot this year. Cocked up according to who, you? Other world renowned football experts? I f***ing love this armchair management stuff - ‘obviously we’d have won if Mitro started instead of Joselu and Shelvey played alongside Merino’. The sheer f***ing arrogance of it is staggering! You’re talking about one of the best and most decorated managers in world football! We all have an opinion but being so certain that Rafa got this wrong or that wrong is laughable. Oh right, no opinions allowed on a football forum. Gotcha. You might want to read the last sentence of my post again Einstein ? I read your last sentence, cheers. Still happy to say Benitez is making mistakes IMO and also happy to ignore your opinion on things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 He's working with absolute shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Worst thing about today... with all Conte's moaning about fixture congestion... Chelsea took it easy on us imo. Just did enough. As soon as we went up, it looked like they would score. once they got in the lead, handbrake back on. At 3-1... full on preservation. Apart from Fab and Hazard who were subbed to stay fresh nobody else wanted to score a 4th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Some of the comments on here and across social media are a bit disheartening. Rafas a man who takes intense pride in every aspect of his work, he'll be disappointed too. Good to hear the sway contingent singing his name. A bit disheartening?! They’re fucking outrageous! I’m now starting to see why so many people give our fans grief for being thick and having unrealistic expectations. Some of the comments directed at Rafa are an absolute embarrassment. Problem is, views like this make it appear that Benitez is infallible. He's making plenty of decisions that several disagree with. Loads of daft selections, subs, transfers. I get that he isn't being given a suitable budget to work with, but he has cocked up a lot this year. Its so infuriating to think that some on here and our fans think that if you criticise Rafa its out of order. Rafa has fucked up on many many occasions and if Pardew,Carver or Mclown done the same they would be absolutely lambasted for it. Rafa is not beyond criticism at all and I know he hasn't had a budget to work with but his signings have been fucking woeful as a whole and his tactics and subs usage at times has been staggering Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 We should be able to criticise him. Some take criticism of him too heavy. Overall i'm happy for NUFC under Ashley to live and die by Rafa but he's made mistakes and he's not infallible. IMO he hund Ritchie out to dry today. As of now - Lejeune looks a poor signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Aye, some of the defence of Rafa is absolutely ridiculous. If he was such a perfect manager why is he at our club ffs. But he's working with absolute shite for the league he's in, that's the owner's fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
number9shirt Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Again I don’t like his tactics, I don’t like his style of play and some of his team selections baffles me, but I trust the man and by that I mean with the whole club and especially long-term. I dare say someone like Steve Bruce would have taken us up last season and maybe with a better style, but we all know the moment we land in the PL it’s going to eventually turn to s***. What Rafa needs is better players. Imagine even the players even Pardew has had over the years at Rafa’s disposal? He is basically working with a Championship squad with one or two players of PL quality and even then those players are mid-table quality. I could put a question mark against every single one of our players when it comes to PL credentials. Rafa, I only have personal question marks which is his style of play, use of certain players and tactics. Ability wise.. well, the man was managing Real Madrid and well IMO before rocking up here. "I dare say someone like Steve Bruce would have taken us up last season" Just like he didn't with Aston Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 Well they were near the bottom when he took them over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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