Ikon Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 If we get taken over, any club will know we have money to spend so whether Rafa says it or not makes no difference in terms of transfer fees. Yeah maybe, or at least assume we have cash. They will hardly "know". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I've said it for years, Pardew was a f***ing idiot when he advertised that some our players were available for transfer, it immediately lowered their fee by a few million. Benitez is just a lot more shrewd when it comes to interviews, I'd read not into it. Imagine man "Yes, we've got 250 million to spend" - every club would instantly add 5 - 10 million onto the valuation of every player when we came knocking. Keep your cards close to your chest. Yeah it would surely add a few million. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I've said it for years, Pardew was a fucking idiot when he advertised that some our players were available for transfer, it immediately lowered their fee by a few million. Benitez is just a lot more shrewd when it comes to interviews, I'd read not into it. Imagine man "Yes, we've got 250 million to spend" - every club would instantly add 5 - 10 million onto the valuation of every player when we came knocking. Keep your cards close to your chest. Shreeves: "What did you make of the game, Alan?" Pards: "So anyway about Ba's release clause..." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted November 24, 2017 Share Posted November 24, 2017 I've said it for years, Pardew was a fucking idiot when he advertised that some our players were available for transfer, it immediately lowered their fee by a few million. Benitez is just a lot more shrewd when it comes to interviews, I'd read not into it. Imagine man "Yes, we've got 250 million to spend" - every club would instantly add 5 - 10 million onto the valuation of every player when we came knocking. Keep your cards close to your chest. Shreeves: "What did you make of the game, Alan?" Pards: "So anyway about Ba's release clause..." Dark times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordie jamie Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Last nights press seemed very downbeat about the takeover I thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1964 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Last nights press seemed very downbeat about the takeover I thought. No news and nothing new to make up in my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 It's happening man don't worry the journalists know fuck all. If you listen to the chronicle podcast this week Mark Douglas was saying that if you had asked some of their sources up until the bid came in they were sure the takeover wouldn't happen and that it was just a ploy from Ashley. I think that's where that London Economics article came from. Now they are changing their tune. So it just proves they know fuck all. For all we know a new bid could have been submitted and they are just going over the finer details of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Off on a bit of a tangent here but how do the financial fair play rules work? Never had any reason to look into it as it was never going to affect us in a million years under Ashley. Is there a simple way of working out how much we could theoretically spend in January? Just noticed Rafa mention this, so assuming it'd be less than £100 million? Not expecting us to spend this by the way just interested in the answer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I think that the next thing we will hear is that we have been bought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Away Day Gadgie Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Off on a bit of a tangent here but how do the financial fair play rules work? Never had any reason to look into it as it was never going to affect us in a million years under Ashley. Is there a simple way of working out how much we could theoretically spend in January? Just noticed Rafa mention this, so assuming it'd be less than £100 million? Not expecting us to spend this by the way just interested in the answer. To be honest i just took Rafa's comment as being clever and not showing his hand for if/when the takeover happens. He's a smart bloke unlike some of the dimwits we've had before who'd probably tell the world we've got a bottomless war chest, then wonder why clubs are quoting ridiculous prices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Off on a bit of a tangent here but how do the financial fair play rules work? Never had any reason to look into it as it was never going to affect us in a million years under Ashley. Is there a simple way of working out how much we could theoretically spend in January? Just noticed Rafa mention this, so assuming it'd be less than £100 million? Not expecting us to spend this by the way just interested in the answer. To be honest i just took Rafa's comment as being clever and not showing his hand for if/when the takeover happens. He's a smart bloke unlike some of the dimwits we've had before who'd probably tell the world we've got a bottomless war chest, then wonder why clubs are quoting ridiculous prices. Yeah completely agree, just got me thinking how FFP would theoretically affect us. Unsure how you go about working out the maximum we could spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Off on a bit of a tangent here but how do the financial fair play rules work? Never had any reason to look into it as it was never going to affect us in a million years under Ashley. Is there a simple way of working out how much we could theoretically spend in January? Just noticed Rafa mention this, so assuming it'd be less than £100 million? Not expecting us to spend this by the way just interested in the answer. To put it simply a club owner isn’t allowed to just keep putting money into the club. Loans from owners are allowed (as Ashley has done), however a club is only allowed a certain percentage of loans to turnover. One way of getting round this is an owners other business sponsoring the club, like Etihad do with Man City. However they have sort of clamped down on this and now a club isn’t allowed sponsorship over the market value. As the market value keeps increasing and other clubs have mega deals this is hard if not impossible for the FA or any other football governing body to regulate, as the market value is after all whatever the club has been offered. Non footballing activities of the business are not taken into account, so stadium renovation/building costs/loans, as well as training ground and academy costs are not taken into account. I also believe non-playing staff wages arn’t taken into account. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just found this from the Guardian: "It is understood FFP regulations would permit Benítez to invest around £30m in January, although increased income would dictate that Newcastle could be free to spend considerably more next summer. The fear among fans is that, should Staveley’s bid collapse and Ashley remain in control, such a scenario may become academic." So around £30 million max even if there was more money available it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I just woke up, and I had a dream that was so real! Remember reading on here that it was done, official site, Sky and so on, and fuck it felt good. At the same time just afterwards I was chased out from my apartment by a Polar Bear and a Komodo dragon so when I woke up I didn't really have to think twice if the takeover had really happened or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just found this from the Guardian: "It is understood FFP regulations would permit Benítez to invest around £30m in January, although increased income would dictate that Newcastle could be free to spend considerably more next summer. The fear among fans is that, should Staveley’s bid collapse and Ashley remain in control, such a scenario may become academic." So around £30 million max even if there was more money available it seems. So how do other clubs like Man City get away with spending more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I just woke up, and I had a dream that was so real! Remember reading on here that it was done, official site, Sky and so on, and fuck it felt good. At the same time just afterwards I was chased out from my apartment by a Polar Bear and a Komodo dragon so when I woke up I didn't really have to think twice if the takeover had really happened or not. On my way to the zoo to pinch a few animals to take to yours for when the takeover is announced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just found this from the Guardian: "It is understood FFP regulations would permit Benítez to invest around £30m in January, although increased income would dictate that Newcastle could be free to spend considerably more next summer. The fear among fans is that, should Staveley’s bid collapse and Ashley remain in control, such a scenario may become academic." So around £30 million max even if there was more money available it seems. So how do other clubs like Man City get away with spending more? Pretty sure sponsorship deals and income (tickets, TV money, merchandise etc), which will take time to grow no matter what. Apart from the sponsorship of course, as we're currently giving it away for free! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueview Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just found this from the Guardian: "It is understood FFP regulations would permit Benítez to invest around £30m in January, although increased income would dictate that Newcastle could be free to spend considerably more next summer. The fear among fans is that, should Staveley’s bid collapse and Ashley remain in control, such a scenario may become academic." So around £30 million max even if there was more money available it seems. So how do other clubs like Man City get away with spending more? Clubs at the top earn much more.. Hence they can spend more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 That from the guardian is a load of rubbish, £30 million I don't think so. It's over 3 years FFP and don't think we have been anywhere near getting close to it. You can spend loads as long as it equals out over the 3 years so as long as they find new revenue streams we would be fine. I am sure the Chrinicle did a piece on FFP Inwill try and find it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonjam88 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Found it http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-much-could-new-newcastle-13841929 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Found it http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-much-could-new-newcastle-13841929 Thanks. That would seem more realistic as to how much we could spend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Found it http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-much-could-new-newcastle-13841929 Great, thanks all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Found it http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/how-much-could-new-newcastle-13841929 Great, thanks all. Rafa could do a lot with £50-80m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odear Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 How to spend 30 million? A bunch of bargain basement options like Joselu or should we bet big on one top class player? Staying up this season is all that matters when it comes down to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Just blow the lot on a top striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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