timnufc22 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I said after the city game the atmosphere was awful. I honestly think a lot of our fans play too much fifa. They think you can just press the opposition for the full 90mins. Also the booing especially at half time was f***ing embarrassing.. Really? I thought it was canny. The crowd realised what we are and what we had to do as a result that night, I thought. The booing like from today isn't on though. I can understand boos if players are blatantly not trying, but this bunch of players are. They're just not good enough, that's not their fault. Where do you’s sit? It’s a million times better in the Gallowgate end upper and we need all the help we can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I said after the city game the atmosphere was awful. I honestly think a lot of our fans play too much fifa. They think you can just press the opposition for the full 90mins. Also the booing especially at half time was f***ing embarrassing.. Really? I thought it was canny. The crowd realised what we are and what we had to do as a result that night, I thought. The booing like from today isn't on though. I can understand boos if players are blatantly not trying, but this bunch of players are. They're just not good enough, that's not their fault. Where do you’s sit? It’s a million times better in the Gallowgate end upper and we need all the help we can get. I'm in block L of the East Stand. Atmosphere gets around to my bit though it's mostly from the lads in the Gallowgate I can hear. For a big game and/or big pre match piss up the atmosphere in my bit can be alreet. Most of the time though, it's dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallsendmag Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Thought the atmosphere was ok but these performances suck the life out of the crowd. It's hard to get excited when you're sat there bored rigid. 5 home defeats in a row before today, now 6 home games without a win and we've only managed to score in one of those six games. I can't remember a run like that in the 35 years I've been supporting NUFC. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I said after the city game the atmosphere was awful. I honestly think a lot of our fans play too much fifa. They think you can just press the opposition for the full 90mins. Also the booing especially at half time was f***ing embarrassing.. Really? I thought it was canny. The crowd realised what we are and what we had to do as a result that night, I thought. The booing like from today isn't on though. I can understand boos if players are blatantly not trying, but this bunch of players are. They're just not good enough, that's not their fault. Where do you’s sit? It’s a million times better in the Gallowgate end upper and we need all the help we can get. I'm in block L of the East Stand. Atmosphere gets around to my bit though it's mostly from the lads in the Gallowgate I can hear. For a big game and/or big pre match piss up the atmosphere in my bit can be alreet. Most of the time though, it's dead. I'm in the family enclosure at the moment. To be fair the lads in the Gallowgate try to get things going constantly and do a grand job. It's more of the negative atmosphere rather than a poor atmosphere.. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself clearly I'm just disappointed with the negativity at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. it's the howls when the ball goes back sometimes that does my head in? Some just expect the ball to go forward for the whole game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 To be fair to the fans, what the match going fans have put up with for over a decade, they are fairly restrained and I think it’s good to let players and the manager know that today for example isn’t good enough. Rafa’s not stupid he will take it on board and understand frustrations. At the end of the day it’s up to them to keep fans onside not the other way around because before kick-off that’s what the fans are, onside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. it's the howls when the ball goes back sometimes that does my head in? Some just expect the ball to go forward for the whole game. Yeah, there was a lot of that today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. Same in the Milburn. People going nuts about backwards passes but equally as critical when an attempt to move the ball forward didn't come off. I can't imagine it's an enjoyable atmosphere to play in at the moment. It's quite clear that most of our players aren't good enough but (some of) the crowd don't seem to give them any leeway at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. Same in the Milburn. People going nuts about backwards passes but equally as critical when an attempt to move the ball forward didn't come off. I can't imagine it's an enjoyable atmosphere to play in at the moment. It's quite clear that most of our players aren't good enough but (some of) the crowd don't seem to give them any leeway at all. They’ve been given all the support in the world this season to be fair and while moans and groans don’t help, some of it is justified. Another season, another team, another manager, and there would be hell on after our recent run of form, performances and the way we payed today. Well maybe not, I was there against Hull when we drew 2-2 which should have finished Pardew. But I was there at home to Cardiff likewise where the manager couldn’t even stand up. It’s give and take remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnufc22 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. it's the howls when the ball goes back sometimes that does my head in? Some just expect the ball to go forward for the whole game. Yeah, there was a lot of that today. It’s not going to help like and some fans make more noise moaning than supporting. At the same time, I really think the players came out looking like scared kittens from the start and they need to find more from within themselves. They didn’t rouse themselves. There’s good support from the Gallowgate like I said. Playing with fear is only going to bring on anxiety from the crowd. They need to shake this fear from their bloody minds because like I said I think that’s nearly as much of a problem as the quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 for those criticisng the crowd - how long can you expect people to keep getting behind the lads 100% despite seeing what we saw today at home against a poor brighton team, and previously against an even shitter team in everton. cannot expect people to go on being absolutely positive all the time. something has to come from the pitch. the crowd aways start positively but we need something back to keep it going. after how many games are people allowed to start giving players stick. i can understand why some of our crowd are starting to turn and get frustrated. It's a criticism of parts of the crowd, not all of it. Why turn on the players? is my response to that. Ashley is where the entirety of the turning should be. Booing the team at half time and during the match is self defeating, as frustrating as it undoubtedly is. Again, I'd go back to the whole 'we don't demand a team that wins...' stuff. If trying is what's actually demanded, then why are people still groaning and booing when they're clearly trying? Collectively it's a difficult thing to change, but we need to realise that SJP is known for being the place where the opposition look to get the crowd to turn against us, presumably because it's unique to us, and a good way of getting a win. Easy to say when you're sat in the warm watching on an internet stream. In reality when you've paid £100s to sit in the freezing cold watching absolute rubbish the patience of the most placid of people is tested, as was the case today. I hate Planet Soft Cunters, it was between +6 and +7 Celsius during the game ffs. I don't know if I want to criticize the crowd for being restless but they certainly aren't helping the home team right now with their constant moans and groans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Which sick cunt had a wank after this btw? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. Same in the Milburn. People going nuts about backwards passes but equally as critical when an attempt to move the ball forward didn't come off. I can't imagine it's an enjoyable atmosphere to play in at the moment. It's quite clear that most of our players aren't good enough but (some of) the crowd don't seem to give them any leeway at all. They’ve been given all the support in the world this season to be fair and while moans and groans don’t help, some of it is justified. Another season, another team, another manager, and there would be hell on after our recent run of form, performances and the way we payed today. Well maybe not, I was there against Hull when we drew 2-2 which should have finished Pardew. But I was there at home to Cardiff likewise where the manager couldn’t even stand up. It’s give and take remember. But this isn't another season. It's this season and the manager isn't Alan Pardew. No idea what point you were trying to make there. I think the boos at the end were beyond embarrassing. This is a poor team lacking in confidence and letting them know that with a 'kick up the arse' in the form of booing makes no sense to me on any level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. Same in the Milburn. People going nuts about backwards passes but equally as critical when an attempt to move the ball forward didn't come off. I can't imagine it's an enjoyable atmosphere to play in at the moment. It's quite clear that most of our players aren't good enough but (some of) the crowd don't seem to give them any leeway at all. They’ve been given all the support in the world this season to be fair and while moans and groans don’t help, some of it is justified. Another season, another team, another manager, and there would be hell on after our recent run of form, performances and the way we payed today. Well maybe not, I was there against Hull when we drew 2-2 which should have finished Pardew. But I was there at home to Cardiff likewise where the manager couldn’t even stand up. It’s give and take remember. But this isn't another season. It's this season and the manager isn't Alan Pardew. No idea what point you were trying to make there. I think the boos at the end were beyond embarrassing. This is a poor team lacking in confidence and letting them know that with a 'kick up the arse' in the form of booing makes no sense to me on any level. Embarrassing was the way fans behaved towards Pardew when we drew 2-2 with Hull, this isn’t embarrassing, it’s natural and more about overall frustrations than any angst towards the manager and players. It doesn’t help of course accepted, but the way we played today, the lack of urgency and threat given how important a game it was, the muted dissent and let’s be honest that’s what it was is understandle if not needed. But hey let’s kick the fans... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I was in the east stand today and it just seemed like the crowd in that area are nervous and sensitive to errors. Any mistake is greeted with howls and gnashing of teeth and it has to affect the players on some level. I’m not saying the crowd there are causing the problems, but it won’t be helping. The Gallowgate were excellent, didn’t stop singing the whole game. Same in the Milburn. People going nuts about backwards passes but equally as critical when an attempt to move the ball forward didn't come off. I can't imagine it's an enjoyable atmosphere to play in at the moment. It's quite clear that most of our players aren't good enough but (some of) the crowd don't seem to give them any leeway at all. They’ve been given all the support in the world this season to be fair and while moans and groans don’t help, some of it is justified. Another season, another team, another manager, and there would be hell on after our recent run of form, performances and the way we payed today. Well maybe not, I was there against Hull when we drew 2-2 which should have finished Pardew. But I was there at home to Cardiff likewise where the manager couldn’t even stand up. It’s give and take remember. But this isn't another season. It's this season and the manager isn't Alan Pardew. No idea what point you were trying to make there. I think the boos at the end were beyond embarrassing. This is a poor team lacking in confidence and letting them know that with a 'kick up the arse' in the form of booing makes no sense to me on any level. Embarrassing was the way fans behaved towards Pardew when we drew 2-2 with Hull, this isn’t embarrassing, it’s natural and more about overall frustrations than any angst towards the manager and players. It doesn’t help of course accepted, but the way we played today, the lack of urgency and threat given how important a game it was, the muted dissent and let’s be honest that’s what it was is understandle if not needed. But hey let’s kick the fans... I think booing your own team should only happen in exceptional circumstances. Grown men and women should be able to keep their emotions in check enough to hold it in at full time and move on unless something truly, staggeringly awful has just taken place. Helps absolutely no one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Which sick cunt had a wank after this btw? LLLLLD ---------- uu Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I do agree, but this is reality, grown men and women boo and show major hysteria at times. Someone in here just a few hours ago even suggested a change in manager might help FFS... that’s the human condition when it comes to emotion. Shows people care I guess! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I do agree, but this is reality, grown men and women boo and show major hysteria at times. Someone in here just a few hours ago even suggested a change in manager might help FFS... that’s the human condition when it comes to emotion. Shows people care I guess! Someone being yourself? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Our fans (and it might be other fans as well, I dunno) boo by default. When James Milner came back to play up here and was coming on as a sub he was booed. James fucking Milner, the player who didn't want to leave, was messed about by the club on numerous occasions, and always gave his all - still booed. I'll always remember that, it was totally not on. I can live with booing when it's justified and aimed in the right areas, for example not putting the effort in whilst being on insane wages, and not being fit to wear the shirt. I can't agree with booing players who are grafting but just aren't good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I do agree, but this is reality, grown men and women boo and show major hysteria at times. Someone in here just a few hours ago even suggested a change in manager might help FFS... that’s the human condition when it comes to emotion. Shows people care I guess! I hope this is a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summerof69 Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Our fans (and it might be other fans as well, I dunno) boo by default. When James Milner came back to play up here and was coming on as a sub he was booed. James f***ing Milner, the player who didn't want to leave, was messed about by the club on numerous occasions, and always gave his all - still booed. I'll always remember that, it was totally not on. I can live with booing when it's justified and aimed in the right areas, for example not putting the effort in whilst being on insane wages, and not being fit to wear the shirt. I can't agree with booing players who are grafting but just aren't good enough. . Completely agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Usually I can pick 1 player out of 11 that would score a 6 out of 10. I can`t think of one that would score a 2 today. Lascelles. That is about it, for me. And it would probably be a 6, maybe a 7 if I was more generous (i.e. hadn't just watched that 90 minute advertisement for the Bundesliga) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 I do agree, but this is reality, grown men and women boo and show major hysteria at times. Someone in here just a few hours ago even suggested a change in manager might help FFS... that’s the human condition when it comes to emotion. Shows people care I guess! I hope this is a joke. Of course I did for a moment, however, contemplate what a change in manager could do for the team in the new manager bounce hypothetical scenario and then I quickly came to my senses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 Well it's a right carry on actually thinking before posting but somehow some of us manage it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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