KaKa Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 What on earth?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I think PED's are widespread throughout football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 City's performances are no more intense than any of Pep's Barca and Bayern teams. When you dominate the ball as much as they do and smartly press zones it's pretty easy to conserve energy, besides they have had loads of low end performances in terms of energy over the last 2-3 months. They just have managed to win anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 I think PED's are widespread throughout football Exactly, if it is easy to get away with it then they're all at it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 City's performances are no more intense than any of Pep's Barca and Bayern teams. When you dominate the ball as much as they do and smartly press zones it's pretty easy to conserve energy, besides they have had loads of low end performances in terms of energy over the last 2-3 months. They just have managed to win anyway. Yup, absolutely. When you dominate possession the game is infinitely easier. It's chasing the ball around all game that kills you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Man City have some incredible players and I love watching them play, but I do wonder about the legitimacy of their performances. Some of their players play pretty much every game and they do so to an incredible standard and intensity which I haven't really seen before. It's not like Guardiola doesn't have a dodgy history with PEDs. Drug testing in football is more or less non-existent compared to endurance sports, but they've already been charged this season for missing tests, which I find amazing for a top level professional club. What in the actual hell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Also when it comes to intensity I'd be more skeptical of Liverpool than City tbh, they play at breakneck speed non stop whereas City slow it down a lot more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Man City have some incredible players and I love watching them play, but I do wonder about the legitimacy of their performances. Some of their players play pretty much every game and they do so to an incredible standard and intensity which I haven't really seen before. It's not like Guardiola doesn't have a dodgy history with PEDs. Drug testing in football is more or less non-existent compared to endurance sports, but they've already been charged this season for missing tests, which I find amazing for a top level professional club. What in the actual hell. Do you really find it that hard to believe? He got banned for using a steroid in 2001 and Man City broke three anti-doping rules within 5 months of him arriving Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 City's performances are no more intense than any of Pep's Barca and Bayern teams. Which, if anything, makes me more suspicious about his teams. When Guardiola tested positive his sample showed 6 times the limit for a steroid which aids recovery and reduces fatigue. Maybe I'm paranoid about it from following professional cycling for years, but people buried their heads in the sand about that too before it all came out in the 90s. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 As I said in terms of the stuff you are talking about there are more teams that would scream PED use than Guardiola's teams. Klopp's teams for example use a lot more energy at a higher intensity, I don't believe either of them use PEDs but if I were I'd be more skeptical of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Barca were arguably more intense when they went to a more counter attacking team after Pep as well. It's not impossible overall though, of course. The real lack of players being found guilty would either suggest that the system is almost flawless, or it's broken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 As I said in terms of the stuff you are talking about there are more teams that would scream PED use than Guardiola's teams. Klopp's teams for example use a lot more energy at a higher intensity, I don't believe either of them use PEDs but if I were I'd be more skeptical of them. Klopp was never banned for doping firstly. Secondly, Liverpool's players regularly break down and they are regularly very flat in games which follow big games for them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 That finish Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 That's more due to the fact his teams rely on open space (which is why he has exceedingly good record against top teams) than lacking energy. As I said though it's possible for Guardiola's teams because they dominate the ball for so long, it allows the players to rest for long periods at a time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 As I said in terms of the stuff you are talking about there are more teams that would scream PED use than Guardiola's teams. Klopp's teams for example use a lot more energy at a higher intensity, I don't believe either of them use PEDs but if I were I'd be more skeptical of them. Klopp was never banned for doping firstly. Secondly, Liverpool's players regularly break down and they are regularly very flat in games which follow big games for them Klopp rotates a lot more too doesn’t he? Sure I read he was the only manager in the league to never play the same starting 11 twice in a row this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 As I said in terms of the stuff you are talking about there are more teams that would scream PED use than Guardiola's teams. Klopp's teams for example use a lot more energy at a higher intensity, I don't believe either of them use PEDs but if I were I'd be more skeptical of them. Klopp was never banned for doping firstly. Secondly, Liverpool's players regularly break down and they are regularly very flat in games which follow big games for them Klopp rotates a lot more too doesn’t he? Sure I read he was the only manager in the league to never play the same starting 11 twice in a row this season. Aye, he has this season because his team kept breaking down last season. I take Mole's point that Liverpool are generally better suited to playing the top teams anyway but they definitely seem flatter after a big game in my opinion, like against Swansea last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Bennett seems like an absolute cunt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Comparing the two though, City are a lot smarter at managing games and raise their intensity in moments. Whereas Liverpool don't really at all, it's great to watch mind but it's not surprising they have lower moments and need to rotate more as they don't really manage games that well. As I said though I don't particularly believe either of them are doing anything wrong tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Was going to say that Klopp rotates more. I can't find any PL stats, but De Bruyne for example has covered more distance than anyone else who's played 5 games in the CL this season - https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/season=2018/statistics/round=2000881/players/index.html#order=3desc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 That tackle on Sane was a little naughty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 That tackle on Sane was a little naughty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Sane doesn't look bothered there tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 The ref was atrocious today, these Video Assistant Robots cant come soon enough for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 Just look at the state of that Cardiff player man ... I cannot stand players like that. No respect for a fellow professional. It's always tinged with envy too. Such a losers mentality. Could have tripped him up far less harmfully than that. Sane is really fortunate his ankle actually rolled, or his leg might have been snapped there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 28, 2018 Share Posted January 28, 2018 They're now saying Sane could be out for up to a month ... damn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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