Shearergol Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 All jokes aside are you allowed to forfeit a match at this level? This is going to be an outrageous scoreline if Man City keep putting in any kind of basic effort. We usually do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 They should all have a go at slide tackeling the goalkeeper. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 light Years ahead of us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 light Years ahead of us Aye that Nigel Clough has done a cracking job, chip off the old block Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Do you think at any point a manager would ask his players to just play the game out and not really continue to be as aggressive? Or do players just automatically kind of do it themselves when they know they are destroying their opposition and they are demoralised? I feel like already Man City have taken their foot way off the pedal here. Even the home crowd are dead silent, as though they even feel bad for Burton Albion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Do you think at any point a manager would ask his players to just play the game out and not really continue to be as aggressive? Or do players just automatically kind of do it themselves when they know they are destroying their opposition and they are demoralised? I feel like already Man City have taken their foot way off the pedal here. Even the home crowd are dead silent, as though they even feel bad for Burton Albion. I’m tempted to put a bet on city match being less than 7 goals now, they must be tempted to ease off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Do you think at any point a manager would ask his players to just play the game out and not really continue to be as aggressive? Or do players just automatically kind of do it themselves when they know they are destroying their opposition and they are demoralised? I feel like already Man City have taken their foot way off the pedal here. Even the home crowd are dead silent, as though they even feel bad for Burton Albion. I’m tempted to put a bet on city match being less than 7 goals now, they must be tempted to ease off It felt like they had started doing so already after that 4th goal. It is so easy for them. Silva and Gundogan are just clipping the ball over their 5 defenders and into the path of players making superb runs into the box and they're straight in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Signing Mahrez was just overkill. Wish he had gone somewhere else just to balance up the league. They're using Otamendi in reserve. That guy was in the PFA team of the year last season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest covmag Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 They aren’t letting up like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizza Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Howay Man City, they're already dead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gallowgate End Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 All jokes aside are you allowed to forfeit a match at this level? This is going to be an outrageous scoreline if Man City keep putting in any kind of basic effort. We usually do. How many sides outside the Top 6 have beat the Top 6 more than the 3 times that we have since promotion? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmonkey Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 How do Man City always seem to field a super strong team every game? I know they have great depth but I feel like a lot of their players play three games a week. Why can't we do that? Because they've bought players who are both extremely talented and have very high fitness levels. Fitness shouldn't be an issue at Premier League level. Most of our squad aren't even inrernationals. They get summers off, national team breaks, etc. Well, this is a deep and complex subjective topic and I'm sure you'll have reasonable counter arguments, but the first thing I'd argue is that fitness is always going to be an issue, otherwise managers wouldn't rotate players at all. The winter break is one of the more controversial topics in the sport for the UK at least, with many top managers in the sport calling for it, and that is entirely about giving our players a rest mid-season to recover and extend fitness levels so they can compete. Another perspective is managers protecting players by rotating them and giving them rest. It's all about the long game here, keeping players fresh for the latter stages of the season when they're likely to get tired quicker. Second thing I'd argue is that fitness per se isn't the issue, it's fitness + performance/ability levels + team's style of play. Our players are reasonably fit, they're all athletes, but the problem is they're barely PL quality so if they're not at 100% and an opposing PL team are then it's handing them an advantage (e.g. we'll tire in more over the course of the match, which means more mistakes, more attacking opportunities missed due to being knackered, etc etc). Whereas Man City's squad is filled with players who in addition to being the cream of the crop as athletes are also top class footballers so even if they're not at 100% they're still likely to be very good. Third point is that City also dominate possession massively so it's normally the other team chasing shadows and getting knackered both mentally and physically whilst their own players come out of games barely breaking a sweat. By contrast in a team like ours where we're utterly shit in possession, we're the ones going to be doing the running, ergo our players need to be fresh to do all that chasing. On top of this they also have a deep enough squad where if key first team players did get injured they'd get by, whereas with ours it's going to be a serious setback, so given that more games = higher risk of injury I can see why Rafa would be cautious. Another perspective I'd put forward is to look at individuals. E.g. Ritchie and Yedlin, it goes without saying Yedlin's fitness and stamina levels are significantly higher and that he can comfortably go on for 90 minutes consecutively without seeing a visible drop in his performance levels. Whereas Ritchie is more likely to gas out after 60 minutes, so when the ball breaks he'll be even more restricted than normal. In terms of comparing to Man City, if Ritchie had the pace and stamina of Yedlin and then on top of that had better dribbling/crossing/shooting abilities, you now have a Man City player (basically Sane). You can field a player like that 2-3 times in a week without worrying about their performance levels dropping too much if they get a bit tired because even if they do they're still going to be pretty good. Add in the aforementioned team domination dimension and it's less of an issue for them to have to rotate. I'm sure if Rafa really wanted to he could field our first team every week till the end of the season in the hope that progress made now leads to success towards the end of it, but it's at the risk of struggling badly in the latter stages of the season when injuries and fitness issues are likely to be more prevalent. I suspect a part of why we saw moderate success in the latter half of the last two seasons is because Rafa has rotated players and kept them fresh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Wait, Burton fucking Albion are in the semis of the League Cup? What? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astroblack Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 How do Man City always seem to field a super strong team every game? I know they have great depth but I feel like a lot of their players play three games a week. Why can't we do that? Because they've bought players who are both extremely talented and have very high fitness levels. Fitness shouldn't be an issue at Premier League level. Most of our squad aren't even inrernationals. They get summers off, national team breaks, etc. Well, this is a deep and complex subjective topic and I'm sure you'll have reasonable counter arguments, but the first thing I'd argue is that fitness is always going to be an issue, otherwise managers wouldn't rotate players at all. The winter break is one of the more controversial topics in the sport for the UK at least, with many top managers in the sport calling for it, and that is entirely about giving our players a rest mid-season to recover and extend fitness levels so they can compete. Another perspective is managers protecting players by rotating them and giving them rest. It's all about the long game here, keeping players fresh for the latter stages of the season when they're likely to get tired quicker. Second thing I'd argue is that fitness per se isn't the issue, it's fitness + performance/ability levels + team's style of play. Our players are reasonably fit, they're all athletes, but the problem is they're barely PL quality so if they're not at 100% and an opposing PL team are then it's handing them an advantage (e.g. we'll tire in more over the course of the match, which means more mistakes, more attacking opportunities missed due to being knackered, etc etc). Whereas Man City's squad is filled with players who in addition to being the cream of the crop as athletes are also top class footballers so even if they're not at 100% they're still likely to be very good. Third point is that City also dominate possession massively so it's normally the other team chasing shadows and getting knackered both mentally and physically whilst their own players come out of games barely breaking a sweat. By contrast in a team like ours where we're utterly shit in possession, we're the ones going to be doing the running, ergo our players need to be fresh to do all that chasing. On top of this they also have a deep enough squad where if key first team players did get injured they'd get by, whereas with ours it's going to be a serious setback, so given that more games = higher risk of injury I can see why Rafa would be cautious. Another perspective I'd put forward is to look at individuals. E.g. Ritchie and Yedlin, it goes without saying Yedlin's fitness and stamina levels are significantly higher and that he can comfortably go on for 90 minutes consecutively without seeing a visible drop in his performance levels. Whereas Ritchie is more likely to gas out after 60 minutes, so when the ball breaks he'll be even more restricted than normal. In terms of comparing to Man City, if Ritchie had the pace and stamina of Yedlin and then on top of that had better dribbling/crossing/shooting abilities, you now have a Man City player (basically Sane). You can field a player like that 2-3 times in a week without worrying about their performance levels dropping too much if they get a bit tired because even if they do they're still going to be pretty good. Add in the aforementioned team domination dimension and it's less of an issue for them to have to rotate. I'm sure if Rafa really wanted to he could field our first team every week till the end of the season in the hope that progress made now leads to success towards the end of it, but it's at the risk of struggling badly in the latter stages of the season when injuries and fitness issues are likely to be more prevalent. I suspect a part of why we saw moderate success in the latter half of the last two seasons is because Rafa has rotated players and kept them fresh. Top post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Ey up, silvas got hair again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Love Foden. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Don't think I've ever seen a game in England where one team got double figures. 4 more in 25 mins for City. Bernardo Silva coming on ffs edit: 3 more.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Don't think I've ever seen a game in England where one team got double figures. 4 more in 25 mins for City. Bernardo Silva coming on ffs edit: 3 more.. What score was man united v Ipswich? 9-1? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Don't think I've ever seen a game in England where one team got double figures. 4 more in 25 mins for City. Bernardo Silva coming on ffs edit: 3 more.. What score was man united v Ipswich? 9-1? 9-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fugazi Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Think Spurs-Wigan might have been 9-1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 SSN Score app hasn’t even updated from 5-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Oh dear, walloping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I just can’t hate any Man City player. Kyle Walker maybe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Christ even Walker is scoring tap ins from just outside the 6 yard box Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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