Guest Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 "There is no legitimate tactical justification for attackers to be in the ‘wall’ Isn’t it so you can peel away and create a little gap? Why are the attacking team being penalised? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 "There is no legitimate tactical justification for attackers to be in the ‘wall’ Isn’t it so you can peel away and create a little gap? Why are the attacking team being penalised? Apparently for fouls through pushing the defenders in the wall. I can't remember any instances of such fouls myself but that's what I've heard that the change is for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Shearer’s free-kick at Man U in the 5-3 would probably be disallowed for a foul by Jenas now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 "There is no legitimate tactical justification for attackers to be in the ‘wall’ Isn’t it so you can peel away and create a little gap? Why are the attacking team being penalised? Apparently for fouls through pushing the defenders in the wall. I can't remember any instances of such fouls myself but that's what I've heard that the change is for. Tedfy Sheringham was a master in the art of pulling the last man in the wall away to create a gap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Changing the rules to make life easier for the VAR people. No more ambiguity with handballs, if it hits a hand, and it can be seen on camera it's a handball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alijmitchell Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Changing the rules to make life easier for the VAR people. No more ambiguity with handballs, if it hits a hand, and it can be seen on camera it's a handball. So are we saying that intention doesn't matter at all? I guess there is a good argument for that (since it's extremely hard to judge), but it sets a bit of a precedent that whether you intend to commit any foul or not, all that matters is whether or not a foul was committed. Implications being - diving/gamesmanship, violent conduct, the difference between a yellow and red card challenge, bringing someone down on the break (accidentally or not)... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Be way too many games decided by penalties if we start giving unintentional hand balls too. Crystal Penalty Fc already win enough matches via penalties than to have a rule change that will give them even more. Last thing Newcastle want is it to become a penalty league table we’d get relegated every year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted May 19, 2019 Share Posted May 19, 2019 Probably not footballers operating the system, so they won't have a clue about intent. It's a technical solution seeking technical confirmation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 it can't be any handball is a foul man, you would have attackers deliberately kicking the ball at defenders arms to win a penalty if that's the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 VAR brought to you by Specsavers very good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelveys Hair Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 it can't be any handball is a foul man, you would have attackers deliberately kicking the ball at defenders arms to win a penalty if that's the case. I think it just applies to attackers and whoever tries to seek an advanage from it. "Goals will be disallowed if the ball accidentally strikes a player's hand in the build-up." "A free-kick will also be awarded outside of the penalty box if a player has accidentally created an advantage by handling the ball." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 I thought goalkeepers already had to have one foot on the line when the penalty is struck? Not that they ever enforce it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted May 20, 2019 Share Posted May 20, 2019 Can’t wait for Andre Marriner to book Rafa Benitez next season for giving him a thumbs up from the touchline Mike Dean is going to absolutely have his way with that cards for manager rule. Bet that rule was thought up by him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Every syllable is bang on. https://www.football365.com/news/on-the-scourge-of-var-football-should-be-poetry-not-mathematics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 mathematics ffs, it's just about trying to get more right decisions than without it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Did you even read it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Unfortunately yes, utter mawkish bollocks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I take it you're content to extend VAR to every single thing that happens on the pitch? As the article points out, being pro-VAR and not wanting that to happen is preposterous and inherently contradictory because in football, every decision is potentially as big as every other one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Every syllable is bang on. https://www.football365.com/news/on-the-scourge-of-var-football-should-be-poetry-not-mathematics Writes a lot of good stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Every syllable is bang on. https://www.football365.com/news/on-the-scourge-of-var-football-should-be-poetry-not-mathematics Absolute horseshit article. I will never understand people that think refereeing errors somehow add to the game and experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I will never understand how anyone thinks standing around waiting for someone hundreds of miles away to watch a video of where somebody's toenail was adds to the game or experience. As he says, it's very much a personal thing. I already liked football enough before this total nonsense was introduced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I take it you're content to extend VAR to every single thing that happens on the pitch? As the article points out, being pro-VAR and not wanting that to happen is preposterous and inherently contradictory because in football, every decision is potentially as big as every other one. Erm no, that's why it's only been brought in for the bigger moments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I will never understand how anyone thinks standing around waiting for someone hundreds of miles away to watch a video of where somebody's toenail was adds to the game or experience. As he says, it's very much a personal thing. I already liked football enough before this total nonsense was introduced. We get it, you are prepared to put up with wrong decisions, to me that is just batshit crazy, especially as an NUFC fan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 There are no "bigger moments" in football. A foul not given 2 minutes ago in the centre circle is as big a moment as any if it leads to a goal. Every kick affects every other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I will never understand how anyone thinks standing around waiting for someone hundreds of miles away to watch a video of where somebody's toenail was adds to the game or experience. As he says, it's very much a personal thing. I already liked football enough before this total nonsense was introduced. We get it, you are prepared to put up with wrong decisions, to me that is just batshit crazy, especially as an NUFC fan. I'm lost, did NUFC invent it or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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