Deuce Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Seems a lot of money is wanted for a player plying his trade in a pretty poor standard league - and apart from Dempsey (excluding goalkeepers) none have been a big hit especially for that kind of money. McBride was good. As was Landon Donovan for the brief time he was here. Claudio Reyna’s time was cut short by injuries but he clearly had what it took to play in the PL. Same with Stu Holden. Geoff Cameron was a competent defender for Stoke for a few years. I’ll go to the grave defending Yedlin as a PL-quality fullback. There really haven’t been a ton of players to make the jump from MLS tbh Thing is they were ok the names being mentioned but not a massive success which when your paying the reported 24 - 30 million for is what would be required Only for Newcastle, if we are being honest, though. This club's competitors are spending 20+ million on reserves and young players. Leicester spent 75% of Newcastle's transfer record for a 25 year old that would exclusively be their reserve keeper. Also a good point, we’ve essentially priced ourselves out of the European market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 12, 2018 Share Posted December 12, 2018 Seems a lot of money is wanted for a player plying his trade in a pretty poor standard league - and apart from Dempsey (excluding goalkeepers) none have been a big hit especially for that kind of money. McBride was good. As was Landon Donovan for the brief time he was here. Claudio Reyna’s time was cut short by injuries but he clearly had what it took to play in the PL. Same with Stu Holden. Geoff Cameron was a competent defender for Stoke for a few years. I’ll go to the grave defending Yedlin as a PL-quality fullback. There really haven’t been a ton of players to make the jump from MLS tbh Thing is they were ok the names being mentioned but not a massive success which when your paying the reported 24 - 30 million for is what would be required Only for Newcastle, if we are being honest, though. This club's competitors are spending 20+ million on reserves and young players. Leicester spent 75% of Newcastle's transfer record for a 25 year old that would exclusively be their reserve keeper. Not sure any clubs that are our direct competitors are spending £20m+ on reserves like. But I do agree that £25m doesn't equal instant great in todays market, nowhere near. I mean when you think about it we spent 75% of our transfer record on a reserve as well (Murphey). You've got to start at £20m+ these days just to get a good player (unless you strike gold like for someone like Fernandez of course). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Christ, 10 years ago it was nearly 2 dollars to the pound. Those were the days like! He’ll only be record signing because of the weak pound. $30m in 2005 wouldn’t have afforded Michael Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Christ, 10 years ago it was nearly 2 dollars to the pound. Those were the days like! He’ll only be record signing because of the weak pound. $30m in 2005 wouldn’t have afforded Michael Owen. doubt it, even back then £17m wouldn’t have got you $30m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 https://www.poundsterlinglive.com/bank-of-england-spot/historical-spot-exchange-rates/usd/USD-to-GBP-2005 August 2005. 1 USD = 0.55 GBP 30m USD = 16.5 GBP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Atlanta are in less of a position then they make out. In the MLS you are only allowed so many Designated players (players who earn over the salary cap and are international players). Atlanta already have a deal signed to sign another designated player with more rumoured to follow. Their forwards is also a designated player, so Almiron pretty much has to be sold. It’s also unclear who has control over the sale as well, I’m pretty sure the MLS has the right to sell a player behind the clubs back. This happened somewhat with Defoe’s move from Toronto to Sunderland. Basically the league wanted to sell Defoe, Toronto kicked up a fuss, in the end Toronto settled for getting Altidore, some money, and a draft pick for Defoe, if they were in charge though they wouldn’t have sold him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 Atlanta are in less of a position then they make out. In the MLS you are only allowed so many Designated players (players who earn over the salary cap and are international players). Atlanta already have a deal signed to sign another designated player with more rumoured to follow. Their forwards is also a designated player, so Almiron pretty much has to be sold. It’s also unclear who has control over the sale as well, I’m pretty sure the MLS has the right to sell a player behind the clubs back. This happened somewhat with Defoe’s move from Toronto to Sunderland. Basically the league wanted to sell Defoe, Toronto kicked up a fuss, in the end Toronto settled for getting Altidore, some money, and a draft pick for Defoe, if they were in charge though they wouldn’t have sold him. Well that sounds interesting. Can you link to some source explaining a bit more? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 MLS is a "single entity" model. It owns players contracts and can negotiate their sale. They also have negotiated purchase of players like Michael Bradley, and basically assigned them to the team they want them to go to, even though there is some official claim process that is supposed to make it fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 small amount of info: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2339627-mls-single-entity-structure-is-the-biggest-obstacle-for-the-league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankles Bennett Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 So Atlanta tell us to bid with a figure starting with a 3 i.e. $30m. So we bid $28m. Classic we tried but couldn't get it over the line !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 13, 2018 Share Posted December 13, 2018 So Atlanta tell us to bid with a figure starting with a 3 i.e. $30m. So we bid $28m. Classic we tried but couldn't get it over the line !!! Any normal club that bid would be fine, because if they really are holding out for that they’d go back up...us on the other hand.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 So Atlanta tell us to bid with a figure starting with a 3 i.e. $30m. So we bid $28m. Classic we tried but couldn't get it over the line !!! The official bid was 3 sports direct mugs + $28M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Where's 28m been mentioned? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 Where's 28m been mentioned? My source. Ssshhh! So Atlanta tell us to bid with a figure starting with a 3 i.e. $30m. So we bid $28m. Classic we tried but couldn't get it over the line !!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted December 14, 2018 Share Posted December 14, 2018 TBF you can't give an inch to these settlers. Next thing you know, they'll take issue with King George's taxation framework. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gleebals Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Guess this BS along with the takeover shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Deuce jinxed the deal Oh and he’s the best player in THE MLS Tomato Deuce[/member] THE MLS Tomato Deuce[/member] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Why you gotta do me like that fam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Arsenal after him. Glad we monitored him for them, wonder if we pass our scout reports on to them to try and cover our costs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Arsenal after him. Glad we monitored him for them, wonder if we pass our scout reports on to them to try and cover our costs? Arsenal and Spurs were always after him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsprillasShinPad Posted December 21, 2018 Share Posted December 21, 2018 Who do you think the next player we'll be linked with without foundation? Messi, Ronaldo, Mbappe? The reality is that we'll end up one or two past-it cloggers like Kuqi or Colback and a couple of youngsters who did some step overs once, but in reality are fucking shit. It's the only way... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted December 22, 2018 Share Posted December 22, 2018 Why you gotta do me like that fam All out of Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaydnNUFC Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 I thought it was the other way around? Fee agreed but his astronomical wage demands were the problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Fat Mike getting mixed up when telling the media his excuses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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