KaKa Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 You can’t give a penalty after the final whistle has been blown, don’t simply can’t. It was always going to be Man Utd who got that decision. Exactlty. Another canny game this one and Townsend, wish I had his hair Well, you can. Don't understand the confusion The foul occurred during the game and was then reviewed, of course it can be given Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Joke - players are just going to target hands. Never a pen in a million years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Parka Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 That is REDICULOUS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 As a rule of thumb they usually add about 30 seconds for a goal Don't they have allowances for substitutions? You'd think they'd have the same for goals. Subs are a ~minute. Goals are nothing if there aren't long celebrations. Otherwise there would be 5-6 mins added time each game with lots of goals. When are there ever 10 or 12 goals in a game The general rule of thumb is 30secs for goals and subs The subs thing isn't a general rule of thumb though, it's a rule. A rule that we are aware of. I'm sure we'd know if there was a rule regarding goals. Law 7. Allowance for time lost Allowance is made by the referee in each half for all time lost in that half through: substitutions assessment and/or removal of injured players wasting time disciplinary sanctions medical stoppages permitted by competition rules e.g. ‘drinks’ breaks (which should not exceed one minute) and ‘cooling’ breaks (ninety seconds to three minutes) delays relating to VAR 'checks' and 'reviews; any other cause, including any significant delay to a restart (e.g. goal celebrations) The fourth official indicates the minimum additional time decided by the referee at the end of the final minute of each half. The additional time may be increased by the referee but not reduced. The referee must not compensate for a timekeeping error during the first half by changing the length of the second half. So not goals. Any other cause, PGMOL have said standard PL practice is 30 seconds per goal. OK. But the example given is goal celebration. So it definitely doesn't stipulate goals. I haven't got a clue who PGMOL are, tbh. I get substitutions and goal celebrations as they are deliberate tactics to run the clock down. but you don't score a goal to run the clock down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 This handball rule is possibly the worst thing ever introduced in sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Now if that is given as a pen against Palace, then nothing makes sense His arm is low and pretty much by his side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 His hand wasn't in an unnatural position which is the law Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 VAR is ruining this game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Not fucking having it at all. A final whistle is the end of the game. It’s a bigger farce then when the woman’s team where allowed to take retake a penalty and play the added time over again a few years back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Should remove all player arms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I thought the rules stated that the hand had to be in an unnatural position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 What's stopping players from aiming for hands/ arms in the penalty box now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Not fucking having it at all. A final whistle is the end of the game. It’s a bigger farce then when the woman’s team where allowed to take retake a penalty and play the added time over again a few years back. If the final whistle is the next break in play then of course anything from the previous bit of play can be reviewed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Cocu can’t have long left either? Rooney Player-Manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Not fucking having it at all. A final whistle is the end of the game. It’s a bigger farce then when the woman’s team where allowed to take retake a penalty and play the added time over again a few years back. You get so wound up about things, but you're wrong If that was Newcastle you'd be complaining the other way. My goodness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Not fucking having it at all. A final whistle is the end of the game. It’s a bigger farce then when the woman’s team where allowed to take retake a penalty and play the added time over again a few years back. If the final whistle is the next break in play then of course anything from the previous bit of play can be reviewed Final whistle should be that, end of play. What next, we see that equaliser someone scored is disallowed 10 minutes after the match has ended? The final whistle should be just that, the referee indicating that the match is over, all reviews etc are over etc. As I say, it was always going to be that pack of bastard who got that decision. The Premier League are being slated for being corrupt, they are hardly fucking helping themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Not fucking having it at all. A final whistle is the end of the game. It’s a bigger farce then when the woman’s team where allowed to take retake a penalty and play the added time over again a few years back. You get so wound up about things, but you're wrong If that was Newcastle you'd be complaining the other way. My goodness If that was Newcastle of course I’d be fuming, because we would be getting called back to lose the game, no fucking way we would get called back to win it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 What's stopping players from aiming for hands/ arms in the penalty box now? When teams play against sides that just pack the box, like we'll be doing against Spurs this Sunday, they'll definitely be aiming for their arms Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 As a rule of thumb they usually add about 30 seconds for a goal Don't they have allowances for substitutions? You'd think they'd have the same for goals. Subs are a ~minute. Goals are nothing if there aren't long celebrations. Otherwise there would be 5-6 mins added time each game with lots of goals. When are there ever 10 or 12 goals in a game The general rule of thumb is 30secs for goals and subs The subs thing isn't a general rule of thumb though, it's a rule. A rule that we are aware of. I'm sure we'd know if there was a rule regarding goals. Law 7. Allowance for time lost Allowance is made by the referee in each half for all time lost in that half through: substitutions assessment and/or removal of injured players wasting time disciplinary sanctions medical stoppages permitted by competition rules e.g. ‘drinks’ breaks (which should not exceed one minute) and ‘cooling’ breaks (ninety seconds to three minutes) delays relating to VAR 'checks' and 'reviews; any other cause, including any significant delay to a restart (e.g. goal celebrations) The fourth official indicates the minimum additional time decided by the referee at the end of the final minute of each half. The additional time may be increased by the referee but not reduced. The referee must not compensate for a timekeeping error during the first half by changing the length of the second half. So not goals. Any other cause, PGMOL have said standard PL practice is 30 seconds per goal. OK. But the example given is goal celebration. So it definitely doesn't stipulate goals. I haven't got a clue who PGMOL are, tbh. I get substitutions and goal celebrations as they are deliberate tactics to run the clock down. but you don't score a goal to run the clock down. Look them up - it’s not hard. I’d recommend Google. To quote them - and they run/ manage the referees “they do add time. It's around 30 seconds as a rule of thumb, unless they spend five minutes celebrating. Every situation is different, they'll take each one on its merit.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Not fucking having it at all. A final whistle is the end of the game. It’s a bigger farce then when the woman’s team where allowed to take retake a penalty and play the added time over again a few years back. If the final whistle is the next break in play then of course anything from the previous bit of play can be reviewed Final whistle should be that, end of play. What next, we see that equaliser someone scored is disallowed 10 minutes after the match has ended? The final whistle should be just that, the referee indicating that the match is over, all reviews etc are over etc. As I say, it was always going to be that pack of bastard who got that decision. The Premier League are being slated for being corrupt, they are hardly fucking helping themselves. You're talking absolute nonsense. An equaliser is reviewed immediately after it is scored Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 His hand wasn't in an unnatural position which is the law ? Hand next to his body? Thought that was really natural position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Not fucking having it at all. A final whistle is the end of the game. It’s a bigger farce then when the woman’s team where allowed to take retake a penalty and play the added time over again a few years back. If the final whistle is the next break in play then of course anything from the previous bit of play can be reviewed Final whistle should be that, end of play. What next, we see that equaliser someone scored is disallowed 10 minutes after the match has ended? The final whistle should be just that, the referee indicating that the match is over, all reviews etc are over etc. As I say, it was always going to be that pack of bastard who got that decision. The Premier League are being slated for being corrupt, they are hardly fucking helping themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AY Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 As a rule of thumb they usually add about 30 seconds for a goal Don't they have allowances for substitutions? You'd think they'd have the same for goals. Subs are a ~minute. Goals are nothing if there aren't long celebrations. Otherwise there would be 5-6 mins added time each game with lots of goals. When are there ever 10 or 12 goals in a game The general rule of thumb is 30secs for goals and subs The subs thing isn't a general rule of thumb though, it's a rule. A rule that we are aware of. I'm sure we'd know if there was a rule regarding goals. Law 7. Allowance for time lost Allowance is made by the referee in each half for all time lost in that half through: substitutions assessment and/or removal of injured players wasting time disciplinary sanctions medical stoppages permitted by competition rules e.g. ‘drinks’ breaks (which should not exceed one minute) and ‘cooling’ breaks (ninety seconds to three minutes) delays relating to VAR 'checks' and 'reviews; any other cause, including any significant delay to a restart (e.g. goal celebrations) The fourth official indicates the minimum additional time decided by the referee at the end of the final minute of each half. The additional time may be increased by the referee but not reduced. The referee must not compensate for a timekeeping error during the first half by changing the length of the second half. So not goals. Any other cause, PGMOL have said standard PL practice is 30 seconds per goal. OK. But the example given is goal celebration. So it definitely doesn't stipulate goals. I haven't got a clue who PGMOL are, tbh. I get substitutions and goal celebrations as they are deliberate tactics to run the clock down. but you don't score a goal to run the clock down. Look them up - it’s not hard. I’d recommend Google. To quote them - and they run/ manage the referees “they do add time. It's around 30 seconds as a rule of thumb, unless they spend five minutes celebrating. Every situation is different, they'll take each one on its merit.” I think you should quote the whole answer: "Is the clock stopped for goals? No, it's not. But they do add time (to cover celebrations). It's around 30 seconds as a rule of thumb, unless they spend five minutes celebrating. Every situation is different, they'll take each one on its merit." So no, goals do not automatically mean added time. There might be no celebrations at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Why would he quote the bit that proved him wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 The handball rule and unnatural position is fucked up. How do you deem someone jumping to have their hands and arms in an unnatural position? Has anyone tried to jump with their arms down by their sides? If the handball rule is going to be applied to pretty much ever handball then why don’t we just apply the same rule inside the box as outside the box and give an indirect freekick? You could keep penalties for blatant deliberate handball decisions and those which directly prevent a goal from being scored. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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