polkaDot Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Buoyant: not sunk yet but could still be eaten by sharks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonArmy1892 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 It's the 'have been waiting on PL' bit that is intriguing, wouldn't this mean that it is either done, or they have failed the proper person test? Can you f***ing imagine if they failed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 So this is the week it all falls apart and we get what a lot of people thought to start with. A Rafaless, Ashley ran NUFC. It's always seemed the most likely outcome with Ashley's history. I can't see Rafa not being contacted by any group actually purchasing the club, even if they were mental enough to not want him. And they would have to be absolutely off their heads to not want Rafa, lets be honest here. It seems Ashley really is doing his best to repeat history from 10 years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Surely if there was any chance of this group taking over Benitez would have been hanging g around if it was going to be anytime soon The BZG have no power to ”keep” him. It’s against the PRL rules (I recently read). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Surely if there was any chance of this group taking over Benitez would have been hanging g around if it was going to be anytime soon It seems that(in the Caulkin interview) Rafa was kept as much in the dark about proceedings as we were. Perhaps he had no idea whether the takeover was legit or not and rather than hang around, like us, and wait, took the Chinese offer which was too good an offer to refuse. It is fairly safe to take it as the takeover not being at a completed stage last Monday when Rafa informed the cloob that he would't be staying. He's a man of his word and any agreement made with the Chinese club in the last week will be binding to him and even if BZG had approached him today with news that it is going to happen there would be no coming back. How I see it anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Surely if there was any chance of this group taking over Benitez would have been hanging g around if it was going to be anytime soon Rafa was probably as bored as waiting for a takeover as we are to be fair. There's only so much bullshit any sane person can take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 As much as I’m desperate to see the back of Ashley, in the cold light of day, no one goes round issuing “progress reports” when in the midst of a complex high profile acquisition. They really don’t. I’m more fascinated by this “other bidder” Caulkin has spoken of. Not a fucking peep from them, we don’t even know who they are ffs! Only that a trusted (quality) local journalist is aware of them, that they are serious players and that if he spilled the beans it might fuck things up. That’s where the hope lies imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Surely if there was any chance of this group taking over Benitez would have been hanging g around if it was going to be anytime soon The BZG have no power to ”keep” him. It’s against the PRL rules (I recently read). Officially so aye But am sure he could have been informed unofficially..hoo rafa sign on the dotted line. And we will sort you down the line... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 As much as I’m desperate to see the back of Ashley, in the cold light of day, no one goes round issuing “progress reports” when in the midst of a complex high profile acquisition. They really don’t. I’m more fascinated by this “other bidder” Caulkin has spoken of. Not a fucking peep from them, we don’t even know who they are ffs! Only that a trusted (quality) local journalist is aware of them, that they are serious players and that if he spilled the beans it might fuck things up. That’s where the hope lies imo. Peter Kenyons band of merry men Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heake Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 As much as I’m desperate to see the back of Ashley, in the cold light of day, no one goes round issuing “progress reports” when in the midst of a complex high profile acquisition. They really don’t. I’m more fascinated by this “other bidder” Caulkin has spoken of. Not a fucking peep from them, we don’t even know who they are ffs! Only that a trusted (quality) local journalist is aware of them, that they are serious players and that if he spilled the beans it might fuck things up. That’s where the hope lies imo. Peter Kenyons band of merry men Source? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 If you're building up excitement for tomorrow's statement, you've clearly not supported Newcastle United for long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasper Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 If you're building up excitement for tomorrow's statement, you've clearly not supported Newcastle United for long. You'd think just this summer would be enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate End Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 If you're building up excitement for tomorrow's statement, you've clearly not supported Newcastle United for long. You'd think just this summer would be enough. Not sure I can face yet another kick in the balls this Summer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Parts in the takeover: 1. Internal Due Diligence (Completed 17th April 2019 according to the Bin Zayed group) Proof of funds. 2. Non-Disclosure Agreement Club finance, contracts, disputes, liabilities... 3. Heads of Terms (Completed according to the Bin Zayed group) Incudes purchase price, bonuses, confidentiality clauses, timeline for deal to be completed. (These agreements are non-binding and can change later). 4. Due Diligence (Completed according to the Chronicle) Player contracts, staff contracts, commercial contracts, bank loans, debts, overdrafts, company structures, property documents... 5. Sales Purchase Agreement The agreement to sell the club and the transfer of shares. Clauses, provisions, conditions... This part will take time but when the documents of the takeover are signed it will include a date when the takeover will happen. I suppose Monochrome Acquisition was formed in this part. 6. Premier League notification / Owners and Directors test (PRL notified and Owners and Directors test started according to the Bin Zayed group) The Premier League must be informed ten working days before the takeover is completed. As I understand it this part can be done during the ”Sales Purchase Agreement” part. 7. The Ashley disagreement You can put that in 5. Sales Purchase Agreement - the part where you can move the goalpost. you can put it after every step and three more times at the end Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 If you're building up excitement for tomorrow's statement, you've clearly not supported Newcastle United for long. You'd think just this summer would be enough. Not sure I can face yet another kick in the balls this Summer Get used to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Anything of note happening lads, or are you back to filling page after page with your favourite cookies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Surely if there was any chance of this group taking over Benitez would have been hanging g around if it was going to be anytime soon Not if they want their own man. I just cant see this being the case myself like Unless they promised Mourinho the job or something. I know i kmow Funny, I've been thinking about this this evening.... making some big leaps in my logic but here goes...…. it's well known that Jose has 1) affection for this club 2) is looking for a 'project' 3) is highly thought of in the middle east (maybe more so than Rafa is?) pure guesswork on my part 4) is linked to the job in some way If I was Jose I would have had my representatives contact BZG a few weeks ago about the possibility of working with them should they take over (kind of like it was Rafa who got in touch with us, we didn't go looking for him) Managers at that level know what they want and go for it. Rafa was perfect for us but I can see Jose doing well here (provided not under the fat cunt obviously). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon No9 Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 W Surely if there was any chance of this group taking over Benitez would have been hanging g around if it was going to be anytime soon Not if they want their own man. I just cant see this being the case myself like Unless they promised Mourinho the job or something. I know i kmow Funny, I've been thinking about this this evening.... making some big leaps in my logic but here goes...…. it's well known that Jose has 1) affection for this club 2) is looking for a 'project' 3) is highly thought of in the middle east (maybe more so than Rafa is?) pure guesswork on my part 4) is linked to the job in some way If I was Jose I would have had my representatives contact BZG a few weeks ago about the possibility of working with them should they take over (kind of like it was Rafa who got in touch with us, we didn't go looking for him) Managers at that level know what they want and go for it. Rafa was perfect for us but I can see Jose doing well here (provided not under the fat cunt obviously). Would rather have Mikel Arteta, Roberto Martinez or Eddie Howe instead of Jose Mourinho though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Anything of note happening lads, or are you back to filling page after page with your favourite cookies? BZG group may or may not release a statement this week, content unknown Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Anything of note happening lads, or are you back to filling page after page with your favourite cookies? BZG group may or may not release a statement this week, content unknown We'll know the content if there's no statement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottishMagpie Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 W Surely if there was any chance of this group taking over Benitez would have been hanging g around if it was going to be anytime soon Not if they want their own man. I just cant see this being the case myself like Unless they promised Mourinho the job or something. I know i kmow Funny, I've been thinking about this this evening.... making some big leaps in my logic but here goes...…. it's well known that Jose has 1) affection for this club 2) is looking for a 'project' 3) is highly thought of in the middle east (maybe more so than Rafa is?) pure guesswork on my part 4) is linked to the job in some way If I was Jose I would have had my representatives contact BZG a few weeks ago about the possibility of working with them should they take over (kind of like it was Rafa who got in touch with us, we didn't go looking for him) Managers at that level know what they want and go for it. Rafa was perfect for us but I can see Jose doing well here (provided not under the fat cunt obviously). Would rather have Mikel Arteta, Roberto Martinez or Eddie Howe instead of Jose Mourinho though! Agree that all 3 would be good options but, and maybe I'm doing BZG a disservice but don't think they'd be looking at/considering any of them. Think they'd go for a Jose as big headline grabbing statement of intent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest godzilla Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 W Surely if there was any chance of this group taking over Benitez would have been hanging g around if it was going to be anytime soon Not if they want their own man. I just cant see this being the case myself like Unless they promised Mourinho the job or something. I know i kmow Funny, I've been thinking about this this evening.... making some big leaps in my logic but here goes...…. it's well known that Jose has 1) affection for this club 2) is looking for a 'project' 3) is highly thought of in the middle east (maybe more so than Rafa is?) pure guesswork on my part 4) is linked to the job in some way If I was Jose I would have had my representatives contact BZG a few weeks ago about the possibility of working with them should they take over (kind of like it was Rafa who got in touch with us, we didn't go looking for him) Managers at that level know what they want and go for it. Rafa was perfect for us but I can see Jose doing well here (provided not under the fat c*** obviously). Would rather have Mikel Arteta, Roberto Martinez or Eddie Howe instead of Jose Mourinho though! The blokes record is one of the best, like him (I know not many do including me) or loathe him he would be a better option than any of the three you mention Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 I think Jose would be great here and would act a lot differently to how he was at Man U. He's feed off the Sir Bobby link and being at "Bobbys House" as he calls it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 What if the incoming owners didn't want Rafa but also didn't want to start on the wrong foot with the fans, would it be conceivable that they get Ashley to do the dirty work as part of a deal? I mean it's not like Ashley could be hated any more than he already is. ... or, what if Ashley is going for a scorched earth policy and trying to cause as much heartache and grief for the fans in some sort of sick 'last laugh' on his part before selling up? ... or maybe, just maybe, fuck all's going to happen again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted July 1, 2019 Share Posted July 1, 2019 Anything of note happening lads, or are you back to filling page after page with your favourite cookies? BZG group may or may not release a statement this week, content unknown We'll know the content if there's no statement Cheers lads. Good to see club is on the up. Have we signed Rafa any new players yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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