Disco Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He's not a target man; surely the scouting team could see this particularly given he didn't play as such last season. Odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 His hold up play is awful, those defenders would be bouncing off Rondon, he would protect the ball and Joe doesn't look like he knows how to do it. Whole team looks lost and not sure what the plan is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 14:48, Disco said: He's not a target man; surely the scouting team could see this particularly given he didn't play as such last season. Odd. He's a big lad. Just ask wor Bruce, he did his own scouting on him apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 14:48, nufc4eva said: His hold up play is awful, those defenders would be bouncing off Rondon, he would protect the ball and Joe doesn't look like he knows how to do it. Whole team looks lost and not sure what the plan is There's a plan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Not adjusting and a rude awakening. Doesn't help there isnt a player within 20 yards of him to support or give him a man on call. Should have buried that header. Like almiron it's a matter of time until he mentally implodes if he doesn't start scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 14:51, sadnesstan said: Quote His hold up play is awful, those defenders would be bouncing off Rondon, he would protect the ball and Joe doesn't look like he knows how to do it. Whole team looks lost and not sure what the plan is There's a plan? If there is I'm trying to work it out. I think it's wing backs to get down line and cross and hope someone is on it. Centre play is awful and the hole team looks disjointed, mind no fucks given either way, I haven't felt angry watching it, kind of want us to lose and can't want us to win that bad. Want my club back and it has to be this way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 It’s Mitro’s first season all over again. Carroll will be main centre-forward by October. We’re fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He's never a central striker. He's more a wide/loose forward like Allmybangs. He needs the space out wide to use his pace and come in from there. Comparing him to Rondon is silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 We could try sliding a few cute passes in behind the defenders. Just a hunch, but Hanley would probably prefer a physical battle with Joelinton to a foot race. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 14:57, Parky said: He's never a central striker. He's more a wide/loose forward like Allmybangs. He needs the space out wide to use his pace and come in from there. Comparing him to Rondon is silly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 14:58, Infinitely Content said: Quote He's never a central striker. He's more a wide/loose forward like Allmybangs. He needs the space out wide to use his pace and come in from there. Comparing him to Rondon is silly. Don't know who to compare him to otherwise, he is the replacement after all, you are right they are different players so head coach should be playing to strengths but we'll he's kind of not, other than that he cost £40 mil and can't control the ball, my word it's the same pre-rafa shot again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Rafa said £20m max on him. Which is the money most clubs spend on a bench striker. Which is perhaps what Rafa saw him as Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Joelinton was a young developing player in top flight German league. It's a huge ask to jump up and lead the line instantly in the Premier League. He should have had time to develop and grow. The price tag is part his potential, and partly because any side will try to push for as much cash as possible in a transfer from a Premiership side. It's expected to have some element of fleecing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 15:02, nufc4eva said: Quote Quote He's never a central striker. He's more a wide/loose forward like Allmybangs. He needs the space out wide to use his pace and come in from there. Comparing him to Rondon is silly. Don't know who to compare him to otherwise, he is the replacement after all, you are right they are different players so head coach should be playing to strengths but we'll he's kind of not, other than that he cost £40 mil and can't control the ball, my word it's the same pre-rafa shot again You said it yourself. That's precisely why his every move shouldn't be compared to Rondon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 15:07, hakka said: Joelinton was a young developing player in top flight German league. It's a huge ask to jump up and lead the line instantly in the Premier League. He should have had time to develop and grow. The price tag is part his potential, and partly because any side will try to push for as much cash as possible in a transfer from a Premiership side. It's expected to have some element of fleecing. Would've been a good back up/development player for Rondon. That's probably where God saw him but Charnley and Co. know more about football than Rafa so they'll be right . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I mean he was bought as the replacement, and is played the same way Rondon was played. So the natural thing is comparing him to Rondon I feel like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Still early to fully gloat, but I called this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 15:06, Minhosa said: Rafa said £20m max on him. Which is the money most clubs spend on a bench striker. Which is perhaps what Rafa saw him as Obviously Charnley knows better thought with all the top level football experience he has, why should Rafa question that. Instead let's find a complete knobhead who will sign anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 15:07, Infinitely Content said: Quote Quote Quote He's never a central striker. He's more a wide/loose forward like Allmybangs. He needs the space out wide to use his pace and come in from there. Comparing him to Rondon is silly. Don't know who to compare him to otherwise, he is the replacement after all, you are right they are different players so head coach should be playing to strengths but we'll he's kind of not, other than that he cost £40 mil and can't control the ball, my word it's the same pre-rafa shot again You said it yourself. That's precisely why his every move shouldn't be compared to Rondon. Gonna be hard not too when he's been asked to play the same role. Not that it is his fault. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Ironically I reckon if anyone was likely to be able to get the best out of this type of striker, it would have been Rafa. Would probably have utilised him more like Torres rather than Andy Carroll. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hakka Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 15:08, Minhosa said: Quote Joelinton was a young developing player in top flight German league. It's a huge ask to jump up and lead the line instantly in the Premier League. He should have had time to develop and grow. The price tag is part his potential, and partly because any side will try to push for as much cash as possible in a transfer from a Premiership side. It's expected to have some element of fleecing. Would've been a good back up/development player for Rondon. That's probably where God saw him but Charnley and Co. know more about football than Rafa so they'll be right . Aye he was a perfect mid to long term thinking signing. Rondon to lead line for next 2 years, then he finishes career (hopefully) playing backup and letting Joelinton take over. All that mentoring and generally evolving in a Rafa side would have been very good. Being thrown in as first choice striker under Bruce is fucking clueless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infinitely Content Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 15:12, Disco said: Quote Quote Quote Quote He's never a central striker. He's more a wide/loose forward like Allmybangs. He needs the space out wide to use his pace and come in from there. Comparing him to Rondon is silly. Don't know who to compare him to otherwise, he is the replacement after all, you are right they are different players so head coach should be playing to strengths but we'll he's kind of not, other than that he cost £40 mil and can't control the ball, my word it's the same pre-rafa shot again You said it yourself. That's precisely why his every move shouldn't be compared to Rondon. Gonna be hard not too when he's been asked to play the same role. Not that it is his fault. Just feel for him. Our fan base can turn into cunts when they get on a players' back. And it appears to be happening already because he hasn't got the attributes of Rondon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 The £40m price tag means nothing tbh. We seemed determined to pay a huge price for an unproven player, so fuck knows where that money has really gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. Yimentov Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 It'll be a hoot if Steve locates his nuts and starts leaving Mike's precious little asset on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 On 17/08/2019 at 15:44, D. Yimentov said: It'll be a hoot if Steve locates his nuts and starts leaving Mike's precious little asset on the bench. Ashley wouldn't give a shit, that money will have been skimmed somewhere. Maybe diverted to the SD emergency fund. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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