TRon Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 His top 5 goals on Youtube are basically scuff shots with him falling over and a header that a traffic cone could score because the cross was that good I noticed that as well, but assumed our scouts must have done much more extensive research. You wouldn't recommend spending £40m on a player who can't shoot. We all know Big Mike won't squander money in a hurry, as a result he values his scouts opinion even higher than world class managers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sempuki Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Can't see where he fits in. No good as the lone striker, no good playing off the striker or out wide because he doesn't have any pace or tight control. He reminds me of Ameobi, no power in his shots despite the physique and no real determination in what he's doing. a bit like when Shola used to fuck up a move and sit on his arse laughing about it Shola was 5 times the player than this lad! Only good thing about Sherla was his penalties. Can't see this lad even being good at that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppaz Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 He has to put more effort in. He never looks to be giving 100%. Did anyone see when Shelvey pulled up in the Leicester game he stopped to stretch his leg out a couple of times but still managed to run back to defend ahead of this fella before they were even at the half way line. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 He has to put more effort in. He never looks to be giving 100%. Did anyone see when Shelvey pulled up in the Leicester game he stopped to stretch his leg out a couple of times but still managed to run back to defend ahead of this fella before they were even at the half way line. Bruce can coach him to put in more effort, that is why you hire a top manager, to get the best out of your expensive investment in players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Shola wouldn’t last 5 minutes in this team like. His flaws would be even more ridiculously exposed. As if man Shola was a 1 in 6 guy. Joelinton is a 1 in 23 guy so far. I'd take Shola any day over this clown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 New low Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 New low It really is. We’re in a situation where people would rather have Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I'd rather give Muto more time than any of the others right now. I suppose Carroll's looked okay so him too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Gayle’s our best striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It’s a bit like discussing where’s best to sit on the Titanic’s sun deck tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Carroll's our best striker imo, we seem to play better with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 New low It really is. We’re in a situation where people would rather have Shola. I'm right though. Joelinton has had enough chances. He is turbo shite, no other way to describe this situation. Yes I appreciate having Bruce isn't ideal for player development, but he just doesn't hit the ball hard enough. No conviction in his strikes, and his effort level isn't good enough. Shola was wank but better than Joelinton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It’s a bit like discussing where’s best to sit on the Titanic’s sun deck tbh Yeap. None of them should be at the club, but it is what it is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I’m not disagreeing on what we’ve seen so far. I’m just devastated how far we’ve fallen under Ashley and that there are still people willing to not only support it but give shit to those who are trying to force him out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Carroll's our best striker imo, we seem to play better with him. Although we still play shite it has to be said. If anything the football is even worse when Carroll plays because we just go route one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Best striker is Federico Fernandez and Ciaran Clark. Both don’t actually miss sitters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Again, I do understand Bruce isn't going to get the best out of Joelinton. Tactical instructions aren't going to be the best, and we don't play attacking football/create many chances. But still, at least show the effort, at least make keepers make saves. He doesn't do that. His headers aswell are always wank. Deal stinks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
samptime29 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I don’t get the effort thing, I think people weirdly conflate not playing well, with not trying. Loads of times he's not busting a gut to get onto balls. That should be the minimum requirement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 He has to put more effort in. He never looks to be giving 100%. Did anyone see when Shelvey pulled up in the Leicester game he stopped to stretch his leg out a couple of times but still managed to run back to defend ahead of this fella before they were even at the half way line. Bruce can coach him to put in more effort, that is why you hire a top manager, to get the best out of your expensive investment in players. Putting a bit of effort in should not need a manager to tell you that ffs. I suppose Bruce should tell him how to score the simple chances he keeps missing too? Both Bruce and Joelinton are shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Again, I do understand Bruce isn't going to get the best out of Joelinton. Tactical instructions aren't going to be the best, and we don't play attacking football/create many chances. But still, at least show the effort, at least make keepers make saves. He doesn't do that. His headers aswell are always wank. Deal stinks. It’s does. I’d love to know the truth behind it all and what Ashley is getting out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I don’t get the effort thing, I think people weirdly conflate not playing well, with not trying. Loads of times he's not busting a gut to get onto balls. That should be the minimum requirement. I don't think anyone who watched yesterdays game could honestly say Joelinton was giving it 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It's slightly unfair to compare two players who have a massive difference in length of time spent at the club, but Shola absolutely wipes the floor with Joelinton, man. Shola was strong, decent in the air, a good finisher with both feet, wasn't remotely afraid of big occasions and even had the very occasional bit of flair. He obviously had massive weaknesses; slow, rubbish first touch, cumbersome in possession, injury prone and generally just had dozens of all-round shite performances - to the extent that you'd never want to rely on him as the main man. But I'd take him every time over Joe. Guy's absolutely hopeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Put Joelinton around Shearer, Kluivert, Bellamy, Robert, Solano, Speed, Dyer, Robson and put Shola in this setup and I bet things would be different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Put Joelinton around Shearer, Kluivert, Bellamy, Robert, Solano, Speed, Dyer, Robson and put Shola in this setup and I bet things would be different. Is the right answer. I've seen too many decent players (Milner, Parker, Wijnaldum, Sissoko, Thauvin) called worse than shite, to know that players shouldn't be judged in shite squads with shite managers. It's never a fair test. He may be shite, but hes certainly not the problem with the club right now and should not be the focus of fan anger. Deaf ears and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Put Joelinton around Shearer, Kluivert, Bellamy, Robert, Solano, Speed, Dyer, Robson and put Shola in this setup and I bet things would be different. Things might be different, but he would be the worst player in that attack without doubt. He's just not that good. He's useless in this setup, in a better setup he'd be a bit better, but what qualities does he have that are exceptional? I'd say none at all. Ben Afa's class shone through under Pardew, Gini managed 10 goals under McClaren in a poor team. Joelinton though? Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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