Joelinton

[Upthemags]

12 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

"Doesn't seem to have physical robustness to be able to stay on the pitch for a meaningful stretch of games" is just pure weird when he had been fit for basically the full four seasons before this. He'll be 38 at some point too but right now he's 27 which isn't old no matter how you look at it.

 

Happy to disagree with such knee-jerky statements.

I think a full season in the bin due to injury, including major surgery, warrants concern regarding durability. And like it or not, late 20s players are less durable than their mid 20s selves.

 

Not looking to press you on it though - entirely possible its just a blip as you suggest, though I'm skeptical that it is just that.

[STM]

Bruno is on 120kish, same as Trippier.

 

Joelinton should get around 110k IMO and if he signs a long contract, I'd have no issue with 60m release clause. That sort of money would give us huge wriggle room financially to replace him.

 

Leaving on a free at the end of a contract is seen as a slap in the face in the footballing world these days, even though a players is entitled to do just that.

 

Also worth baring in mind that Eddie Howe resurrected his career and made him the player he is. He'd have been playing in Turkey or somewhere without him.

 

Would be annoyed with any player who doesn't at least leave gracefully.

[Shearergol]

39 minutes ago, TRC said:

Bruno was on 120k when he first signed, then his new contract was bumped to 200k I believe.

Nope (to both bits)

[Andy]

4 hours ago, TRon said:

 

I've always defended Joelinton, he's got a lot of attributes, but he's also pish in front of goal. It might be he's looking to run down his contract and get a big pay day wherever he can. We'll have to weigh that up with getting a decent fee for him and investing that in another player. I don't think he's top level so he won't command top level wages IMO.

 

All of our midfielders are shite in front of goal tbf. He's probably the best of the bunch and that's arguably his worst attribute. 

[TRon]

12 minutes ago, Andy said:

 

All of our midfielders are shite in front of goal tbf. He's probably the best of the bunch and that's arguably his worst attribute. 

 

Not going to disagree with you, but only one of them is earning 130k, and his best attributes are significantly better than Joelinton's.

[STM]

I won't let any contract dispute cloud me. 

 

I fucking love Joelinton, he's class and I don't want to lose him. Sign a new deal ya big cunt, so we can relax again.

 

Mind, if he goes, we will go wild on a replacement.

[TRon]

Joelinton might even find a club who will pay him 130k, can only imagine it will be one of the super clubs, either big six in the PL or the equivalent in Europe. We don't have the infrastucture or earning potential of them under FFP/PSR so the only way we could start matching them for wages across the board would be to sell players....like Joelinton. That would generate funds to buy big in the short term and kick the can down the road for a season or two.

[TheBrownBottle]

3 hours ago, STM said:

Bruno is on 120kish, same as Trippier.

 

Joelinton should get around 110k IMO and if he signs a long contract, I'd have no issue with 60m release clause. That sort of money would give us huge wriggle room financially to replace him.

 

Leaving on a free at the end of a contract is seen as a slap in the face in the footballing world these days, even though a players is entitled to do just that.

 

Also worth baring in mind that Eddie Howe resurrected his career and made him the player he is. He'd have been playing in Turkey or somewhere without him.

 

Would be annoyed with any player who doesn't at least leave gracefully.

Bruno’s new deal was significantly more than £120k pw.  It’s more like £180k pw.  Joelinton - if the rumours are true - is looking for a salary in line with that.  The club would be mad to pay him anything like it.

 

The truth is that we would probably just about get our money back if Joelinton was sold - but that’s more about the insane original fee than the lad’s recent performances.  We paid a centre forward’s transfer fee.  He’s not a player I would want to push out the door, but if we’re paying top whack then I’d want top whack footballers in return.  

[David Edgar]

Won't be upset if he decides he wants to find a bigger pay day elsewhere. We could always find a midfielder who can press and pass the ball.

[Conjo]

Joelinton is such a unique player. The strength, tackling, how he is able to get the ball out under pressure and drive it forward from central midfield combined with his ability to play as a left winger/inside forward. I can't think of anyone like him. If you compare him to other midfield destroyers he has good technique, dribbling & not that bad finishing (not if you compare him with forwards tho).

We won't be able to replace him with someone like him.

Really hope he and the club can agree on a compromise so we aren't "forced" to sell.

 

 

Edited January 27, 2024 by Conjo

[mighty__mag]

7 hours ago, Pata said:

 

Seriously? He has played 32, 35, 31 and 38 games for us in the league in the past four seasons. Are we really declaring every player that gets injured this season a sicknote without looking at the previous seasons?

 

 

 

 

Yes it's not good enough. Ask our new hardcore fans.

[TheBrownBottle]

25 minutes ago, Conjo said:

Joelinton is such a unique player. The strength, tackling, how he is able to get the ball out under pressure and drive it forward from central midfield combined with his ability to play as a left winger/inside forward. I can't think of anyone like him. If you compare him to other midfield destroyers he has good technique, dribbling & not that bad finishing (not if you compare him with forwards tho).

We won't be able to replace him with someone like him.

Really hope he and the club can agree on a compromise so we aren't "forced" to sell.

 

 

 

I don’t think he ever looks all that great in midfield.  I really like him on the left wing, but he’s not effective enough to consider him a top player.

[Dan Gleebals]

His transformation under Howe has been incredible. However, think he has probably hit his ceiling. Really want him to stay but for the right price, he is the most likely to go given his contract. 

 

Abilities aside, his personality and commitment will be very hard to replace. 

[Lush Vlad]

 

The shithouser’s shithouse  he can never be allowed to leave. Fuck FFP. Keep him here until he’s 45. 

[Miggys First Goal]

Fucking love Big Joe. 
 

Surprised his yellow card stats are so low. 

[Lotus]

4 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

The shithouser’s shithouse  he can never be allowed to leave. Fuck FFP. Keep him here until he’s 45. 

Got to be honest, I’d sell him and replace him with more technical midfielder but the joy from watching smash through people is quite unique. I giggle at it in a very immature way ?

[Joelinton7]

5 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

 

The shithouser’s shithouse  he can never be allowed to leave. Fuck FFP. Keep him here until he’s 45. 

Not all number 7’s need a wand of right foot, seventy five stepovers, knuckleballs and the leap of a salmon. You just need to be able to knock Luke O’Nien into row ZZ. 

[Lush Vlad]

37 minutes ago, Lotus said:

Got to be honest, I’d sell him and replace him with more technical midfielder but the joy from watching smash through people is quite unique. I giggle at it in a very immature way ?

I have no idea how the numbers would work. But I’d much rather we sold Longstaff from the midfield and got Big Joe to sign a new contract. Especially if we are going to carry on with the same system. 

[Johny4317]

On 27/01/2024 at 01:59, Dan Gleebals said:

His transformation under Howe has been incredible. However, think he has probably hit his ceiling. Really want him to stay but for the right price, he is the most likely to go given his contract. 

 

Abilities aside, his personality and commitment will be very hard to replace. 

His ceiling? As one of the most effective midfielders in the league?

[TRon]

1 hour ago, Lush Vlad said:

I have no idea how the numbers would work. But I’d much rather we sold Longstaff from the midfield and got Big Joe to sign a new contract. Especially if we are going to carry on with the same system. 

 

So would I but selling Longstaff for £40m might prove a bit harder.

[Lush Vlad]

15 minutes ago, TRon said:

 

So would I but selling Longstaff for £40m might prove a bit harder.

Well obviously not for £40m. Hence why I mentioned the numbers. But people who understand it and seemed interested by it. Have regularly said about selling academy players for FFP purposes. So even if it was for say half that….. Guessing, of course. Then it would still be preferable IMO. 

[Jagten]

1 hour ago, Johny4317 said:

His ceiling? As one of the most effective midfielders in the league?

This is probably a stretch, given he can’t really pass.

[Shearergol]

We love joelinton’s passion, but we could upgrade him by signing someone who could either pass or shoot.

[gbandit]

It’s not just his passion. He’s a phenomenal athlete, he bullies oppositions like few people can and wins the ball back better than pretty much anyone in the league. He’s weak in front of goal but I think his link up play and short passing is easily good enough. Finding a player who has his defensive attributes or even close to them will be extremely difficult if we want to upgrade on his ability going forwards as well 

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

I have no idea how the numbers would work. But I’d much rather we sold Longstaff from the midfield and got Big Joe to sign a new contract. Especially if we are going to carry on with the same system. 

I wouldn’t and I doubt the club would either, given UEFA requirements for HG players