Joelinton

[Gallowgate Toon]

He can still play CM sometimes, definitely in case of emergency, but a wing role does bring out a lot of his strengths for the team.

 

Opens up a clearer path for Miley to get gametime which is no bad thing either.

[Erikse]

It was part of the reason that I was a bit surprised when we bought Barnes, like I kind of just accepted that we weren't going to play Joelinton that much at LW anymore. Thought it was because we needed him to cover CM for depth. Happy he's back and performing at LW like in 22/23. That said, do we how well he works at LW when Willock isn't there to interchange? Did we try that? I think his strengths are still best suited for the wing anyways.

 

 

Edited Monday at 12:41 by Erikse

[Holloway]

There  isn't another player like him at this level, he's quite remarkable 

[Kanji]

1 hour ago, Erikse said:

It was part of the reason that I was a bit surprised when we bought Barnes, like I kind of just accepted that we weren't going to play Joelinton that much at LW anymore. Thought it was because we needed him to cover CM for depth. Happy he's back and performing at LW like in 22/23. That said, do we how well he works at LW when Willock isn't there to interchange? Did we try that? I think his strengths are still best suited for the wing anyways.

 

 

 

Ya that’s why I thought we’d be placing AG at right wing and keeping the big and little Joe deadly combo. Adding Tonali was the upgrade on CM are. 
 

assumed we’d also go with that style in the CL and just press like maniacs and kill the games. 

 

 

Edited Monday at 13:45 by Kanji

[Kanji]

@Erikse putting it this way, I genuinely thought we’d see Bruno a right sided 8, Tonali as a 6. But the two actually legitimately covering for one another. Willock as the LCM and etc. I thought the evolution in attacking play was a ? But I assumed we’d just go for broke and we’d see Willock develop into this all action attacking mid we saw at the end of the 22/23. Joelinton would continue to add goals. Isak would be lights out and we were going to bank on AG being an all around improvement on the intensity of Miggy. 
 

Granted I want Maddison to play that wide right role and was annoyed we didn’t get him. 

 

 

Edited Monday at 14:03 by Kanji

[Shays Given Tim Flowers]

There's not really another player like him is there? He's an absolute merchant of destruction. 

[Erikse]

41 minutes ago, Kanji said:

@Erikse putting it this way, I genuinely thought we’d see Bruno a right sided 8, Tonali as a 6. But the two actually legitimately covering for one another. Willock as the LCM and etc. I thought the evolution in attacking play was a ? But I assumed we’d just go for broke and we’d see Willock develop into this all action attacking mid we saw at the end of the 22/23. Joelinton would continue to add goals. Isak would be lights out and we were going to bank on AG being an all around improvement on the intensity of Miggy. 
 

Granted I want Maddison to play that wide right role and was annoyed we didn’t get him. 

 

 

 

 

Yeah I think the expectations before the season didn't end up being correct, but the Willock injuries were so annoying. I honestly think we would've had to deal with rumours of all the top clubs wanting him right now if he stayed fit. A bit extreme, but he was only 22 in that 22/23 season and he already had some very exciting abilities. The sky was the limit for him.

 

I think Maddison would've been fantastic for us personally.

 

 

Edited Monday at 14:42 by Erikse

[Kanji]

20 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

Yeah I think the expectations before the season didn't end up being correct, but the Willock injuries were so annoying. I honestly think we would've had to deal with rumours of all the top clubs wanting him right now if he stayed fit. A bit extreme, but he was only 22 in that 22/23 season and he already had some very exciting abilities. The sky was the limit for him.

 

I think Maddison would've been fantastic for us Personally

 

 

 

 

Yes, the form he was in before he had that nasty injury, thought he was destined for greatness and deserved an England call-up soon. We finished 7th last year, imagine just having him fit 50% more last season? FFS  

 

Yes, I was wondering if it was Maddison + Tonali! 

[Tiresias]

If Guardiola was fielding Joelinton it would have been called a 'false midfielder' or something and some tactical masterstroke. I think he's been better in the middle than some give credit for but its not quite his best. He sits somewhere half way between a left sided central midfielder box to box type and a winger. He somehow remains influential and involved in the general play despite theoretically being up on the wing. He's massively tactically flexible without complaint or without willingness to do all the dirty work of whatever position he finds himself in

[Erikse]

14 minutes ago, Kanji said:

 

Yes, the form he was in before he had that nasty injury, thought he was destined for greatness and deserved an England call-up soon. We finished 7th last year, imagine just having him fit 50% more last season? FFS  

 

Yes, I was wondering if it was Maddison + Tonali! 

 

Was the perfect opportunity for players like Anderson and Tonali to make a name for themselves playing every week, though! Oh, wait..

[Kanji]

15 minutes ago, Tiresias said:

If Guardiola was fielding Joelinton it would have been called a 'false midfielder' or something and some tactical masterstroke. I think he's been better in the middle than some give credit for but its not quite his best. He sits somewhere half way between a left sided central midfielder box to box type and a winger. He somehow remains influential and involved in the general play despite theoretically being up on the wing. He's massively tactically flexible without complaint or without willingness to do all the dirty work of whatever position he finds himself in

 

Think he's been great as a midfielder tbh. just think we're different side with Willock on that LCM spot. 

[KaKa]

3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said:

Am I right in thinking he got a decent amount go G/A when playing on the wing when we finished 4th ?

 

At the back end of the season we qualified for the Champions League he played a lot on the left and he ended up scoring  6 goals and assisting 2 from that position in 15 appearances there in the Premier League.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joelinton/leistungsdaten/spieler/333241/plus/0?saison=2022

 

[KaKa]

27 minutes ago, Kanji said:

 

Think he's been great as a midfielder tbh. just think we're different side with Willock on that LCM spot. 

 

Yeah, I would say one of the main improvements has been in our build up play and possession.

 

Joelinton can sometimes get caught on the ball in the centre and be a bit loose with his passing amidst the congestion in there. Willock is much tighter in those spaces having coming through at Arsenal and being used to that more intricate play.

 

Roaming from out wide Joelinton ends up facing play more often, and can also afford more time on the ball as he has more space.

[Erikse]

17 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

At the back end of the season we qualified for the Champions League he played a lot on the left and he ended up scoring  6 goals and assisting 2 from that position in 15 appearances there in the Premier League.

 

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joelinton/leistungsdaten/spieler/333241/plus/0?saison=2022

 

 

I think my stats from last page was Premier League specific, the one you linked includes the cup. Nothing wrong with including the cup though, we met lots of PL teams in the EFL cup.

 

 

Edited Monday at 15:39 by Erikse

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

I think my stats from last page was Premier League specific, the one you linked includes the cup. Nothing wrong with including the cup though, we met lots of PL teams in the EFL cup.

 

 

 

 

Ah, yes. I believe you are correct 

 

Looks like he played 11 Prem games there with 4 goals and an assist, according to the page I shared.

[Erikse]

24 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Ah, yes. I believe you are correct 

 

Looks like he played 11 Prem games there with 4 goals and an assist, according to the page I shared.

 

Ah, yeah, I see now that it was actually 8-3-0 in the league with him starting at LW. Not 7-3-0. My OCD had to correct it.

 

 

Edited Monday at 16:08 by Erikse

[Astroblack]

On 10/11/2024 at 11:33, Yorkie said:

What a beautiful finish, btw. As if he's got an RB on his swinger, ffs.

 

I think it's his best goal tbh. Even better than the Meelan one. 

[Groundhog63]

Need a photo of him immediately after scoring. Not from behind, I've seen that. From the front. 

"Are you not entertained?" 

Emblazoned across it. 

Wor Flags? 

[NE27]

This...

4 hours ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

There's not really another player like him is there? He's an absolute merchant of destruction. 

 

On a flag with his veiny legs as the backdrop.

[Kanji]

3 hours ago, KaKa said:

 

Yeah, I would say one of the main improvements has been in our build up play and possession.

 

Joelinton can sometimes get caught on the ball in the centre and be a bit loose with his passing amidst the congestion in there. Willock is much tighter in those spaces having coming through at Arsenal and being used to that more intricate play.

 

Roaming from out wide Joelinton ends up facing play more often, and can also afford more time on the ball as he has more space.

 

Willock is more press resistant than people give him credit for. Rarely loses the ball when tight.