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If we lose to Hull, and more than likely lose the 2 games after it, surely that would signify to Ashley that a change has to happen? He cant be THAT thick can he?

 

Having said that, I fully believe if the above does happen, his first thought will be "Joe couldnt come back soon enough".

 

Howay man, there's absolutely no chance they'll rock the boat at this stage with yet another manager.

 

They'll just rush Kinnear back.

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I've put some more money on us dropping, been meaning to do it for a while.

 

What odds did you get?

 

Only 7/4, stuck £20 on, I've already got some on though, can't even remember how much.

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I've put some more money on us dropping, been meaning to do it for a while.

 

What odds did you get?

 

Only 7/4, stuck £20 on, I've already got some on though, can't even remember how much.

 

7/4. Jesus. :(

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When 10th place is only 6 points above the drop then we don't have to worry too much just yet.

 

After the Stoke game has been played that's when we'll know if we really need to panic...

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When 10th place is only 6 points above the drop then we don't have to worry too much just yet.

 

After the Stoke game has been played that's when we'll know if we really need to panic...

Comments like that have been made for the last 2/3 months and we have never gotten anywhere near to those mid table places so there is nothing to sugest its miraculously going to happen now.

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Blackburn won tonight after being a goal down away from home. I dont think we have the gumption to do likewise.

 

At this moment in time i think its slightly more likely that we'll go down rather than stay up.

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When 10th place is only 6 points above the drop then we don't have to worry too much just yet.

 

After the Stoke game has been played that's when we'll know if we really need to panic...

Comments like that have been made for the last 2/3 months and we have never gotten anywhere near to those mid table places so there is nothing to sugest its miraculously going to happen now.

 

We were like 11th and 12th about 4 or 5 games ago....

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Other results shouldn't bother us, i.e. tonight's result should be ignored because if we win on Saturday we look safe (or at least safer) again.  Make your minds up again after the Hull game, not after other team's games.

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When 10th place is only 6 points above the drop then we don't have to worry too much just yet.

 

After the Stoke game has been played that's when we'll know if we really need to panic...

Not to be a killjoy but it is likely that we'll get 1-0 points form our next four games. Throw in Spurs and Stoke and we are probably looking at 3 at most. The difference between  the drop and tenth by this time will be 8-12 points and we'll be probably 10-11 points shortof that. Plus 3-4 points deep in the relegation zone.

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When 10th place is only 6 points above the drop then we don't have to worry too much just yet.

 

After the Stoke game has been played that's when we'll know if we really need to panic...

Not to be a killjoy but it is likely that we'll get 1-0 points form our next four games. Throw in Spurs and Stoke and we are probably looking at 3 at most. The difference between  the drop and tenth by this time will be 8-12 points and we'll be probably 10-11 points shortof that. Plus 3-4 points deep in the relegation zone.

 

Stoke is one of our next 4 games - let's not wish the season away!  O0

 

There is no reason why we cannot take results from any of our next four games imo. Fair enough you can pretty much write off the Chelsea and Arsenal games...but on the other hand we took a point at Stamford Bridge, and Old Trafford, then held our own against Man United at home despite being beat, so there is no reason why we cannot get a point or two from those games.

 

I would like to think we will get 3 or 4 points from the next 4 games. I think it's extremely possible also.

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I think the poll needs resetting to reflect the current opinion, as i just can't believe that some people are still living in the world of make-believe that sees there being no chance of going down.

 

It's been possible from the start for people to change their vote.

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We absolutely must beat Hull. A draw is not good enough and a defeat is a disaster. Even if we do win, Hull will still be 1 point ahead of us. The only plus is that the teams fate is still currently in their own hands. We aren't relying on other teams doing us a favour until we slip below 17th place.

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Still think we'll stay up but it's more out of gut instinct now. It'll definitely go all the way into the last games though.

 

If the worst comes to the worst and we do go down then we'll deserve to be relegated. Come May, the 3 worst teams in the league will go down and if we're one of them then we can have no complaints. We've thrown points away all season and it might just come back to bite us on the arse. Obviously we all hope it doesn't happen but if it does we'll have to take it on the chin and accept a season or 2 re-building and getting back up. We've not got any divine right to be in the Premier League, no-one has.

 

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Still think we'll stay up but it's more out of gut instinct now. It'll definitely go all the way into the last games though.

 

If the worst comes to the worst and we do go down then we'll deserve to be relegated. Come May, the 3 worst teams in the league will go down and if we're one of them then we can have no complaints. We've thrown points away all season and it might just come back to bite us on the arse. Obviously we all hope it doesn't happen but if it does we'll have to take it on the chin and accept a season or 2 re-building and getting back up. We've not got any divine right to be in the Premier League, no-one has.

 

:neutral:

 

least the fuckin pitiful crying cunts who throw themselves in front of the cameras will actually have something to shed a tear about this time

 

the 'mongfest' tv interviews will be murder though...!

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Christ, I think we're going down now... That Blackburn result last night brought it home. I think I'd been trying to deny it before but now I'm absolutely bricking it. I can't see who in our current squad who's going to step up to the plate and do what's neccessary to keep us up. Owen and Viduka played huge parts in doing exactly that last season but that was with KK leading us. Who have we got leading us now? Kinnear if/when he comes out of hospital.

 

If we are to stay up I reckon Owen and Nolan are going to have to have a massive couple of months - they are the ones who've shown a nack for scoring in tight matches in the past and we need them to do that now.... and we need the likes of Martins and Lovenkrands to be weighing in with important goals. Guttierez has got to set the tone for the rest of them by keeping up his all action, run-full-belt-for-90-mins style, even if he probably wont make many crucial contributions in terms of goals scored. I'm not optimistic at all though.

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