ExiledGeordie Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 As s*** as we've been, confidence plays a massive role in football and the way teams play. If we pick up a couple of wins the team will start to play with a bit more freedom irrespective of how Pardew sets them up. Having Cabaye and Taylor back in the side will give us a much more resilient look too. Teams like Fulham and West Ham are stalling above us too so things can change around fairly quickly in the table. We'll have a pretty good idea of where things are going to make predications after the Reading and Villa games and come the Chelsea match because the window will be shut and we'll know where we stand with the squad. there'll be a surprise result in there somewhere, maybe liverpool or arsenal for example but i don't think dave is a million miles off With a full side out at home and bit a confidence we'll give the good sides a proper match so that wouldn't surprise me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 H Reading 3 A Aston Villa 1 H Chelsea 0 A Tottenham 0 H Southampton 3 A Swansea City 0 H Stoke City 1 A Wigan Athletic 0 A Manchester City 0 H Fulham 1 H Sunderland 1 A WBA 0 H Liverpool 0 A West Ham Utd 0 A QPR 1 H Arsenal 0 32 points. ^ the reason Pardew should have been gone roughly 5 games ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tyson Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 the teams who get out of the s*** are usually the ones who play without fear, have a go and get results no-one would expect Like the Saints. I love how they try to win every game even if pretty limited in talent, and in spite of their awful defensive line they pulled themselves out of the relegation zone, play a decent football and are getting more and more results. Thumbs-Up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 i'd like someone to show me an example of a team threatened with relegation in january who got out of trouble with a cautious, defensive setup, might exist but i'm fucked if i can remember one maybe pardew thinks it's august again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 wigan last year, they didn't get out of it by shutting up fucking shop did they? they got out of it by playing well and going for it, became more attacking if anything i know the excuse will be that pardew will switch to an attacking style when he gets the players but this is bollocks, it'll get harder to do that as the days go by and the rot sets in deeper...if we'd been losing games by going for it then at least putting better players into an existing system like that would make sense what you're now talking about is trying to suddenly change the style of an entire season and ask players new to the country to seamlessly fit into something that no-one else is even used to whatever way you look at it, awful, awful management Great post. Pardew's philosophy isn't going to change at the push of a button, so irrespective of who is brought I honestly don't think it's going to make difference. At least not immediately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 unless any new players produce pieces of individual brilliance which bailed us out at the start of this season and did so well for us last season again, whatever way you cut it, shite management Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 H Reading 3 A Aston Villa 1 H Chelsea 0 A Tottenham 0 H Southampton 3 A Swansea City 0 H Stoke City 1 A Wigan Athletic 0 A Manchester City 0 H Fulham 1 H Sunderland 1 A WBA 0 H Liverpool 0 A West Ham Utd 0 A QPR 1 H Arsenal 0 32 points. cant see us going the last 11 games without a win- If we do, we deserve to go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 The worry is that poor teams are beating sides they shouldn't. We haven't done that all season really (well, Spurs H possibly but we lucked out really). The downward spiral is a massive concern. We're in a fucking tailspin at the moment and it's bringing flashbacks of the last relegation. Do our squad have the personalities to buckle down and play their way out of trouble? Can we put together a string of positive results? I really don't see 6 points from the next two games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 if we dont get 4 points from the next two , by the time we play southampton at home we will be in the bottom three and the cauldron of hate game will be served up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I've gone from a 4 to 6 after yesterday. Norwich are a championship standard team and if we struggled to beat them, it's difficult to see where the wins are going to come in the remaining fixtures. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 6/1 at the bookies is starting to look like seriously good value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Even a draw next week and I think it will be too much for a lot of people, including myself. I think panic will start to take over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Even a draw next week and I think it will be too much for a lot of people, including myself. I think panic will start to take over. It's not going to be the foregone conclusion it may have been either after yesterday. If they get turned over yesterday, they're coming to our place expecting a beating. That win for them brings them here with the one thing we haven't got; momentum. The next two games are real 6 pointers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Maybe if we sign Remy and another defender it will give us the lift we need. Right now we look shot of confidence and direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I don't think we'll get relegated, I think we can win the next two games and looking at the table that could put us up into 11th with everything looking rosy. We'll have Cabaye back in our team for those two games and I hate to say it, but stick Shola up front with Cisse for someone to target and we should be able to create more chances for Cisse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I don't think we'll get relegated, I think we can win the next two games and looking at the table that could put us up into 11th with everything looking rosy. We'll have Cabaye back in our team for those two games and I hate to say it, but stick Shola up front with Cisse for someone to target and we should be able to create more chances for Cisse. Shola should be nowhere near the starting 11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I don't think we'll get relegated, I think we can win the next two games and looking at the table that could put us up into 11th with everything looking rosy. We'll have Cabaye back in our team for those two games and I hate to say it, but stick Shola up front with Cisse for someone to target and we should be able to create more chances for Cisse. Shola should be nowhere near the starting 11. In normal circumstances I'd agree, but in a Pardew side with the way we play I can see what Chase is saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Shola should be on the bench...play marv off cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR37ufX9nrlJZKpN5kmYGINPUJqU0OveUju2Haz2X9oTUzP34FYUrPKuC-O7g this is the only bench i want to see shola on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chase Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I don't think we'll get relegated, I think we can win the next two games and looking at the table that could put us up into 11th with everything looking rosy. We'll have Cabaye back in our team for those two games and I hate to say it, but stick Shola up front with Cisse for someone to target and we should be able to create more chances for Cisse. Shola should be nowhere near the starting 11. Normally I would agree with you as I believe that too, he isn't good enough, but Cisse can not play up front on his own, as we seen yesterday he is absolutely wasted up there. I think the only saving grace Shola has is he brings the ball down well, if he can do that and manage to pass to someone it gives us a hell of a better chance to get the ball to Cisse where he is actually useful instead of humping it up to to hold it off which he can't do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 H Reading 1 - prolongs the agony a bit. Reading are capable of snatching a goal or two. A Aston Villa 3 - Villa are a complete shambles, and their home crowd will get on their back. H Chelsea 0 - can't see you getting anything. A Tottenham 1 - by now, you'll have pretty much a full squad to choose from. H Southampton 3 - See above. This is the game when you start to see light at the end of the tunnel. You relax a bit, which helps in the following games A Swansea City 1 H Stoke City 3 - they're pretty shite away. A Wigan Athletic 0 - they're fighting hard A Manchester City 0 H Fulham 3 H Sunderland 0 - have a sneaking feeling they'll do you. A WBA 1 - their wheels are starting to come off by now. H Liverpool 3 - the game that ensures you stay up. Cracking atmosphere. A West Ham Utd 0 - tough game against a club still fighting to stay up A QPR 0 - see above H Arsenal 1 - nothing game. 41 points, and safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 If we can win the next 2, open up a gap and start playing without pressure, we can finish the season strong still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 H Reading 1 - prolongs the agony a bit. Reading are capable of snatching a goal or two. A Aston Villa 3 - Villa are a complete shambles, and their home crowd will get on their back. H Chelsea 0 - can't see you getting anything. A Tottenham 1 - by now, you'll have pretty much a full squad to choose from. H Southampton 3 - See above. This is the game when you start to see light at the end of the tunnel. You relax a bit, which helps in the following games A Swansea City 1 H Stoke City 3 - they're pretty shite away. A Wigan Athletic 0 - they're fighting hard A Manchester City 0 H Fulham 3 H Sunderland 0 - have a sneaking feeling they'll do you. A WBA 1 - their wheels are starting to come off by now. H Liverpool 3 - the game that ensures you stay up. Cracking atmosphere. A West Ham Utd 0 - tough game against a club still fighting to stay up A QPR 0 - see above H Arsenal 1 - nothing game. 41 points, and safe. Dont try that one sonny Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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