Takeover Thread - July 1st statement, Staveley letter to Tracey Crouch (and response) in OP

[gdm]

And however shitty and sanctimonious the PL have been, they WERE going to approve it. Had approved it even, I believe.  That’s what I was trying to tell Twitter last night. But as soon as the exclusivity ran out, MA saw the opportunity to pocket the 17 million and an extra 50 million from the American.

 

Statement proves this was bollocks anyway.

 

As said, Golfmag has been played. He definitely knows this by now.

 

Not the way he sees it. Seems a stretch to say his source was right. At no point were the PL going to pass this

 

[Guest]

[nufcnick]

And however shitty and sanctimonious the PL have been, they WERE going to approve it. Had approved it even, I believe.  That’s what I was trying to tell Twitter last night. But as soon as the exclusivity ran out, MA saw the opportunity to pocket the 17 million and an extra 50 million from the American.

 

Statement proves this was bollocks anyway.

 

As said, Golfmag has been played. He definitely knows this by now.

 

Not the way he sees it. Seems a stretch to say his source was right. At no point were the PL going to pass this

 

 

What a load of shite, how can you have arbitration if you haven’t passed or failed.

[Shearergol]

Well they were clearly is dispute as to whether mbs had influence over PIF. Arbitration was offered. Why is that shite?

 

Bad day for the consortium this.

[Guest]

And however shitty and sanctimonious the PL have been, they WERE going to approve it. Had approved it even, I believe.  That’s what I was trying to tell Twitter last night. But as soon as the exclusivity ran out, MA saw the opportunity to pocket the 17 million and an extra 50 million from the American.

 

Statement proves this was bollocks anyway.

 

As said, Golfmag has been played. He definitely knows this by now.

 

Not the way he sees it. Seems a stretch to say his source was right. At no point were the PL going to pass this

 

 

What a load of shite, how can you have arbitration if you haven’t passed or failed.

 

He clearly implied originally it was down to Ashley.

 

[Judge Holden]

Well they were clearly is dispute as to whether mbs had influence over PIF. Arbitration was offered. Why is that shite?

 

Bad day for the consortium this.

 

Feels like we're in the middle of a public slanging match now and to see who can have the last word. What a shit storm.

[madras]

Well they were clearly is dispute as to whether mbs had influence over PIF. Arbitration was offered. Why is that shite?

 

Bad day for the consortium this.

Arbitration was offered, so kicking it down the line for another possible 18month with no resolution guaranteed.

[Whitley mag]

Staggered anyone believes the shit Masters has come out with today.

 

No other clubs have had an input, what a load of bollocks respected journalists like Henry Winter have confirmed this.

 

Wanting to make the govt the owner, Staveley had already confirmed that so nothing new. However, this appears nothing more than putting a major obstacle in the way to prevent deal. Why would anyone be surprised PIF have walked away at the thought of waiting 18 months for arbitration, and then they would conduct test after that. There is absolutely no reason the PL couldn’t have treat PIF as a separate entity if they wished, the simple fact is it was a perfect excuse for them.

 

They state they never leaked any info re deal, this goes against what people involved with NUST have said, Bill Bush’s name has cropped up frequently with briefing certain parties.

 

The length of time they’ve taken to manipulate this outcome should tell us all we need to know, they never wanted the Saudis in the league, and most definitely not as owners of NUFC.

 

 

 

 

[Shearergol]

Well they were clearly is dispute as to whether mbs had influence over PIF. Arbitration was offered. Why is that shite?

 

Bad day for the consortium this.

Arbitration was offered, so kicking it down the line for another possible 18month with no resolution guaranteed.

 

Tends to happen with disputes. PIF can take it through the courts if they prefer.

[ScottishMagpie]

Wonder if Justin Barnes has been through the O&D test since he’s had such a say in our club over the past few years, after all the process is reviewed annually, apparently.

 

Very good point.

 

What % of NUFC does Justin own?

 

What % would MBS own?

 

Well he’s chairman of the company who were aiming to buy us, no?

 

Is he? Shows how much i know. Thought the chairman was that rummayan chap.

[Shearergol]

Staggered anyone believes the shit Masters has come out with today.

 

No other clubs have had an input, what a load of bollocks respected journalists like Henry Winter have confirmed this.

 

Wanting to make the govt the owner, Staveley had already confirmed that so nothing new. However, this appears nothing more than putting a major obstacle in the way to prevent deal. Why would anyone be surprised PIF have walked away at the thought of waiting 18 months for arbitration, and then they would conduct test after that. There is absolutely no reason the PL couldn’t have treat PIF as a separate entity if they wished, the simple fact is it was a perfect excuse for them.

 

They state they never leaked any info re deal, this goes against what people involved with NUST have said, Bill Bush’s name has cropped up frequently with briefing certain parties.

 

The length of time they’ve taken to manipulate this outcome should tell us all we need to know, they never wanted the Saudis in the league, and most definitely not as owners of NUFC.

 

 

 

 

 

That last sentence is bullshit. That’s why we get called deluded.

[Shearergol]

Wonder if Justin Barnes has been through the O&D test since he’s had such a say in our club over the past few years, after all the process is reviewed annually, apparently.

 

Very good point.

 

What % of NUFC does Justin own?

 

What % would MBS own?

 

Well he’s chairman of the company who were aiming to buy us, no?

 

Is he? Shows how much i know. Thought the chairman was that rummayan chap.

 

Board Members

​T​​he Board of PIF comprises a team of highly qualified leaders who bring experience and expertise in economics, energy, law and finance and delivering major projects. Under the chairmanship and guidance of HRH Prince Mohammad bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al-Saud, the ​​​Board is responsible for overseeing the long-term strategy, investment policy and performance of PIF.

[madras]

Anyone read Catherine Belton's "Putins people" re Putin, Abramovich and Chelsea ? I wonder how thoroughly that has been explored .

[Guest Cheesy Beans]

Wonder if Justin Barnes has been through the O&D test since he’s had such a say in our club over the past few years, after all the process is reviewed annually, apparently.

 

Very good point.

 

What % of NUFC does Justin own?

 

What % would MBS own?

 

Well he’s chairman of the company who were aiming to buy us, no?

 

A chairman isn’t an owner. So MBS would own 0% of NUFC, PIF would own 80% of NUFC.  Being a chairman doesn’t necessarily indicate full control, it’s a strategic role at board level. PIFs comment is that the PIF board wouldn’t have any control over day-to-day NUFC matters, which makes sense because they’re an investment vehicle and not intending to be in control.

 

Barnes isn’t a listed owner or director of NUFC but has control over the decision making in the club - something the PL ‘fears’ MBS would. Yet why is Barnes allowed to have any say in the club without these thorough checks which are apparently routinely applied and re-applied every season?

 

This is also ignoring the ridiculous conclusion the PL have drawn that it is acceptable to take 3 months to decide ‘who is who’ and then offer a potential 18-month process as a resolution.

[Sima]

Anyone read Catherine Belton's "Putins people" re Putin, Abramovich and Chelsea ? I wonder how thoroughly that has been explored .

 

Russian Top of the Pops?

[Whitley mag]

Staggered anyone believes the s*** Masters has come out with today.

 

No other clubs have had an input, what a load of bollocks respected journalists like Henry Winter have confirmed this.

 

Wanting to make the govt the owner, Staveley had already confirmed that so nothing new. However, this appears nothing more than putting a major obstacle in the way to prevent deal. Why would anyone be surprised PIF have walked away at the thought of waiting 18 months for arbitration, and then they would conduct test after that. There is absolutely no reason the PL couldn’t have treat PIF as a separate entity if they wished, the simple fact is it was a perfect excuse for them.

 

They state they never leaked any info re deal, this goes against what people involved with NUST have said, Bill Bush’s name has cropped up frequently with briefing certain parties.

 

The length of time they’ve taken to manipulate this outcome should tell us all we need to know, they never wanted the Saudis in the league, and most definitely not as owners of NUFC.

 

 

 

 

 

That last sentence is bullshit. That’s why we get called deluded.

 

Come on you don’t think they’ve done this to extract revenge for all those frustrated attempts at taking legal action re piracy ?

[Shearergol]

Staggered anyone believes the s*** Masters has come out with today.

 

No other clubs have had an input, what a load of bollocks respected journalists like Henry Winter have confirmed this.

 

Wanting to make the govt the owner, Staveley had already confirmed that so nothing new. However, this appears nothing more than putting a major obstacle in the way to prevent deal. Why would anyone be surprised PIF have walked away at the thought of waiting 18 months for arbitration, and then they would conduct test after that. There is absolutely no reason the PL couldn’t have treat PIF as a separate entity if they wished, the simple fact is it was a perfect excuse for them.

 

They state they never leaked any info re deal, this goes against what people involved with NUST have said, Bill Bush’s name has cropped up frequently with briefing certain parties.

 

The length of time they’ve taken to manipulate this outcome should tell us all we need to know, they never wanted the Saudis in the league, and most definitely not as owners of NUFC.

 

 

 

 

 

That last sentence is bullshit. That’s why we get called deluded.

 

Come on you don’t think they’ve done this to extract revenge for all those frustrated attempts at taking legal action re piracy ?

 

I mean the bit about nufc.

[Shearergol]

Wonder if Justin Barnes has been through the O&D test since he’s had such a say in our club over the past few years, after all the process is reviewed annually, apparently.

 

Very good point.

 

What % of NUFC does Justin own?

 

What % would MBS own?

 

Well he’s chairman of the company who were aiming to buy us, no?

 

A chairman isn’t an owner. So MBS would own 0% of NUFC, PIF would own 80% of NUFC.  Being a chairman doesn’t necessarily indicate full control, it’s a strategic role at board level. PIFs comment is that the PIF board wouldn’t have any control over day-to-day NUFC matters, which makes sense because they’re an investment vehicle and not intending to be in control.

 

Barnes isn’t a listed owner or director of NUFC but has control over the decision making in the club - something the PL ‘fears’ MBS would. Yet why is Barnes allowed to have any say in the club without these thorough checks which are apparently routinely applied and re-applied every season?

 

This is also ignoring the ridiculous conclusion the PL have drawn that it is acceptable to take 3 months to decide ‘who is who’ and then offer a potential 18-month process as a resolution.

 

They’re not concerned mbs will have influence. They want to bring him in as a reason to fail the test.

 

If that wasn’t the case the consortium would simply agree. As I keep telling you, this is about piracy, not control.

[Jackie Broon]

Everything that I've seen suggests that it's the Saudi state rather than MbS that the PL think should be included in the test (for all we know MbS has already been included, as you'd expect as the chairman of PIF).

 

Staveley said that the PL wanted the KSA to be tested, Masters referred only to an 'entity' (although the rules of the test only referres to a 'person' so I'm not sure how they could legally apply it to an entity) so it seems to be the Saudi state that they want to include rather than MbS.

[number9shirt]

The premier League only want MBS to undergo the test or be listed as a director so they can fail it. Still corruption of the highest order, bein other pl teams & who knows who else still get their own way.

 

 

[Miggys First Goal]

[Guest Cheesy Beans]

Wonder if Justin Barnes has been through the O&D test since he’s had such a say in our club over the past few years, after all the process is reviewed annually, apparently.

 

Very good point.

 

What % of NUFC does Justin own?

 

What % would MBS own?

 

Well he’s chairman of the company who were aiming to buy us, no?

 

A chairman isn’t an owner. So MBS would own 0% of NUFC, PIF would own 80% of NUFC.  Being a chairman doesn’t necessarily indicate full control, it’s a strategic role at board level. PIFs comment is that the PIF board wouldn’t have any control over day-to-day NUFC matters, which makes sense because they’re an investment vehicle and not intending to be in control.

 

Barnes isn’t a listed owner or director of NUFC but has control over the decision making in the club - something the PL ‘fears’ MBS would. Yet why is Barnes allowed to have any say in the club without these thorough checks which are apparently routinely applied and re-applied every season?

 

This is also ignoring the ridiculous conclusion the PL have drawn that it is acceptable to take 3 months to decide ‘who is who’ and then offer a potential 18-month process as a resolution.

 

They’re not concerned mbs will have influence. They want to bring him in as a reason to fail the test.

If that wasn’t the case the consortium would simply agree. As I keep telling you, this is about piracy, not control.

 

Are you posting these as facts? Be careful or you might get called out.

 

The bit in bold is absolute nonsense, so farfetched it makes so little sense.

 

You’re also now ignoring the points about why MBS should have the test applied to him, but not Justin Barnes.

[gdm]

So all this suggests there’s been fuck all talks going on ‘behind the scenes’ as far as PL are concerned PIF pulled out and it’s done.

 

 

[Guest neesy111]

Wonder if Justin Barnes has been through the O&D test since he’s had such a say in our club over the past few years, after all the process is reviewed annually, apparently.

 

Very good point.

 

What % of NUFC does Justin own?

 

What % would MBS own?

 

Well he’s chairman of the company who were aiming to buy us, no?

 

A chairman isn’t an owner. So MBS would own 0% of NUFC, PIF would own 80% of NUFC.  Being a chairman doesn’t necessarily indicate full control, it’s a strategic role at board level. PIFs comment is that the PIF board wouldn’t have any control over day-to-day NUFC matters, which makes sense because they’re an investment vehicle and not intending to be in control.

 

Barnes isn’t a listed owner or director of NUFC but has control over the decision making in the club - something the PL ‘fears’ MBS would. Yet why is Barnes allowed to have any say in the club without these thorough checks which are apparently routinely applied and re-applied every season?

 

This is also ignoring the ridiculous conclusion the PL have drawn that it is acceptable to take 3 months to decide ‘who is who’ and then offer a potential 18-month process as a resolution.

 

They’re not concerned mbs will have influence. They want to bring him in as a reason to fail the test.

If that wasn’t the case the consortium would simply agree. As I keep telling you, this is about piracy, not control.

 

Are you posting these as facts? Be careful or you might get called out.

 

The bit in bold is absolute nonsense, so farfetched it makes so little sense.

 

You’re also now ignoring the points about why MBS should have the test applied to him, but not Justin Barnes.

 

Justin Barnes is just an employee / consultant.  He's not on the board.  Tell me what executive decisions he has done?

[Broadsword]

If MBS wanted us sold we would be sold.

Wonder if Justin Barnes has been through the O&D test since he’s had such a say in our club over the past few years, after all the process is reviewed annually, apparently.

 

Very good point.

 

What % of NUFC does Justin own?

 

What % would MBS own?

 

Well he’s chairman of the company who were aiming to buy us, no?

 

A chairman isn’t an owner. So MBS would own 0% of NUFC, PIF would own 80% of NUFC.  Being a chairman doesn’t necessarily indicate full control, it’s a strategic role at board level. PIFs comment is that the PIF board wouldn’t have any control over day-to-day NUFC matters, which makes sense because they’re an investment vehicle and not intending to be in control.

 

Barnes isn’t a listed owner or director of NUFC but has control over the decision making in the club - something the PL ‘fears’ MBS would. Yet why is Barnes allowed to have any say in the club without these thorough checks which are apparently routinely applied and re-applied every season?

 

This is also ignoring the ridiculous conclusion the PL have drawn that it is acceptable to take 3 months to decide ‘who is who’ and then offer a potential 18-month process as a resolution.

 

They’re not concerned mbs will have influence. They want to bring him in as a reason to fail the test.

 

If that wasn’t the case the consortium would simply agree. As I keep telling you, this is about piracy, not control.

 

Wonder if Justin Barnes has been through the O&D test since he’s had such a say in our club over the past few years, after all the process is reviewed annually, apparently.

 

Very good point.

 

What % of NUFC does Justin own?

 

What % would MBS own?

 

Well he’s chairman of the company who were aiming to buy us, no?

 

A chairman isn’t an owner. So MBS would own 0% of NUFC, PIF would own 80% of NUFC.  Being a chairman doesn’t necessarily indicate full control, it’s a strategic role at board level. PIFs comment is that the PIF board wouldn’t have any control over day-to-day NUFC matters, which makes sense because they’re an investment vehicle and not intending to be in control.

 

Barnes isn’t a listed owner or director of NUFC but has control over the decision making in the club - something the PL ‘fears’ MBS would. Yet why is Barnes allowed to have any say in the club without these thorough checks which are apparently routinely applied and re-applied every season?

 

This is also ignoring the ridiculous conclusion the PL have drawn that it is acceptable to take 3 months to decide ‘who is who’ and then offer a potential 18-month process as a resolution.

 

They’re not concerned mbs will have influence. They want to bring him in as a reason to fail the test.

 

If that wasn’t the case the consortium would simply agree. As I keep telling you, this is about piracy, not control.

 

What makes you think they have grounds to fail it because of the piracy?

 

There is a scenario where the PL are just doing their job correctly and identifying the ultimate controlling party and undergoing the tests on them. Thats what the test is for.