Nobody Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ash2579 said: So has Joe Biden then! Capital punishment still happens in a number of American states! Not for homosexuality and other no-crimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Sportswashing in action on this page, like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hovagod Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 19 minutes ago, Ash2579 said: Wow, MBS is a mass murdering ethnic cleansing monster now! Ok He is, yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: No, the point is that dictators tend not to be convicted for their crimes - certainly not without being toppled. The idea that ‘hey, the CIA reckoned he did but there were no charges’ is a joke. The CIA can’t charge him ffs Bit rich of the CIA to point the finger at anybody regarding extra-judicial murder too, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nobody said: Not for homosexuality and other no-crimes. the way things are heading, post the repeal of Wade vs Roe I wouldn’t get too tight on the particular viewpoint Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Sure it would be very shocking to potentially see (a very small and stupid minority of) Newcastle fans cheering MBS on, but you’d hope the club realised inviting him would be a clear own goal. His brother attending the Carabao Cup final didn’t make much news but nobody knows who he is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Ghandis Flip-Flop said: Bit rich of the CIA to point the finger at anybody regarding extra-judicial murder too, no? They’ve had their fair share of toppling democratic govts in the Americas, I can’t argue that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Death penalty is still a thing in the US. I guess Biden has blood on his hands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 ...he does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 What a glorious match day read it is in here. I'm away for a sportswash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kocunar Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, Jimburst said: ...he does. Sure, you just don't see people point that out often whenever he is mentioned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, kocunar said: Death penalty is still a thing in the US. I guess Biden has blood on his hands. He does. But this type of ‘whatabouttery’ is easy when you’re not actually living in a dictatorship. Try walking down the streets of Washington DC, shouting ‘fuck Biden’ and calling for him to be expelled from office. Then try that in Riyadh with MBS. Which one do you think is more likely to result in your execution? Edited August 19, 2023 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Tbh I'd be pretty unhappy with sunak visiting the game of anyone thinks I'm reserving special treatment for mbs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 It is also with pointing out that there is some at least democratic mandate in the us, where arguably the death penalty goes ahead because it's popular with the voters and Biden does not have the authority to end it completely as it would never get through the senate etc. Mbs is more directly responsible for the ills of his state as he is in a position of almost total power Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I spent about 6 months in Saudi, learnt a bit of the lingo, ate some lush food, and I never got beheaded once ?♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 US Presidents are far worse than MBS but that's a separate discussion. Him attending a game would just be asking for trouble though, don't see a single benefit to it whilst the grief we as a club would get would be enormous. Whilst I don't give a shit what others think I wouldn't want Eddie or the players being asked about MBS attending a game instead of being asked about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 I’m back from my dog walk to debate with people I’ve never met or likely to meet about something no one can change Who wants it ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, patrone said: I spent about 6 months in Saudi, learnt a bit of the lingo, ate some lush food, and I never got beheaded once ?♂️ Happily you didn’t have a pint - because who wants to be whipped in a public square? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Happily you didn’t have a pint - because who wants to be whipped in a public square? Well in that case you'd be wrong. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, patrone said: Well in that case you'd be wrong. ? Embassies have their uses Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Embassies have their uses And so do USA military bases ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, patrone said: And so do USA military bases ? And so do some Saudi royal palaces, if one my mates is correct. He went to a do held by a minor royal (loads of them over there). Apparently there was peeve there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) Total whataboutary but the US 'regime' has murdered more people, worldwide, in its insatiable quest for power, control and resources than any other country. Usually hiding behind the freedom fighting for democracy myth. Also, and I appreciate he hasn't been dismembered, Julian Assange is a good example of what happens to western journalists when they expose criminality by the state. Also, and this applies to Israel too, these countries are inexorably linked to ourselves in "mutially beneficial" trade and finance. Football's minute in comparison Also, people might want to read the Old Testament that, again, America's Christian Fundamentals are dragging the country towards. Enjoy the game Edited August 19, 2023 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Total whataboutary but the US 'regime' has murdered more people, worldwide, in its insatiable quest for power, control and resources than any other country. Usually hiding behind the freedom fighting for democracy myth. Also, and I appreciate he hasn't been dismembered, Julian Assange is a good example of what happens to western journalists when they expose criminality by the state. Also, and this applies to Israel too, these countries are inexorably linked to ourselves in "mutially beneficial" trade and finance. Football's minute in comparison Also, people might want to read the Old Testament that, again, America's Christian Fundamentals are dragging the country towards. Enjoy the game I know some will consider this whataboutery too, but never mind Assange. Do many on here even have an inkling of doubt, about the official story of how Jeffrey Epstein managed to kill himself in prison. If so and you’re not as equally enraged about that, as you are Khassoghi, then you’re effectively angry that the Saudi's aren’t as slick at committing extra-judicial murder as the US ??♂️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted August 19, 2023 Share Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ash2579 said: So has Joe Biden then! Capital punishment still happens in a number of American states! Now you're (sort of) getting it. Edited August 19, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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