Eddie Howe

[andycap]

Just now, Shearergol said:

 

Sure, there's a place for that in certain games. Wilson should be that player, but we know why he isn't and it's gonna be hard to do much about it.

But that is what we need instead of letting isak just go missing in games. Wilson is finished so we should be looking for that type of striker. 

[KaKa]

2 hours ago, andycap said:

Mitchell should be bringing in players to fix the weaknesses in the squad whether that be young players or ready made players. 

So a right winger centre half with pace. A new striker that offers more than isak. 

Take howe out of the equation as Mitchell is there for the long term philosophy of the way we wanna be run. 

 

I get the impression a lot of the fans don't appreciate this kind of setup or the importance of it going forward.

 

Mitchell is already public enemy number 1 and is deemed the source of our problems despite only being there 5 mins.

 

I actually really wish we'd get what they hope for and Mitchell leaves and Howe is left to it, so we can all see first hand how that plays out, with us being the only ones going against the grain and competing with clubs getting their house in order.

 

Summer 2023 was really the time to get things right. Man Utd and Chelsea were in a mess and Villa were still finding their feet.

 

I think we've pretty much blown it already, and things are likely to get worse before they get any better now with a larger scale reset or rebuild sometime in the future.

 

Until then remove any uncertainty behind the scenes and let's see how it plays out with Howe in charge of everything.

[Shearergol]

Just now, andycap said:

But that is what we need instead of letting isak just go missing in games. Wilson is finished so we should be looking for that type of striker. 

 

As well as a right winger, pacey CB, number 6 or number 10, new keeper etc etc.

[Shearergol]

1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

I get the impression a lot of the fans don't appreciate this kind of setup or the importance of it going forward.

 

Mitchell is already public enemy number 1 and is deemed the source of our problems despite only being there 5 mins.

 

I actually really wish we'd get what they hope for and Mitchell leaves and Howe is left to it, so we can all see first hand how that plays out, with us being the only ones going against the grain and competing with clubs getting their house in order.

 

Summer 2023 was really the time to get things right. Man Utd and Chelsea were in a mess and Villa were still finding their feet.

 

I think we've pretty much blown it already, and things are likely to get worse before they get any better now with a larger scale reset or rebuild sometime in the future.

 

Until then remove any uncertainty behind the scenes and let's see how it plays out with Howe in charge of everything.

 

You'd rather win a debate on the internet than see the club do well? Bit weird.

[andycap]

Just now, Shearergol said:

 

As well as a right winger, pacey CB, number 6 or number 10, new keeper etc etc.

Yeah i know that but you mentioned the striker. 

[Shearergol]

Just now, andycap said:

Yeah i know that but you mentioned the striker. 

 

I didn't, did I? I'm late to this party I said our tactics need sorting before we get a new striker.

[andycap]

2 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

I didn't, did I? I'm late to this party I said our tactics need sorting before we get a new striker.

Yeah but referred to a striker in your tactics post. 

I think a more rounded striker would get our formation a lot more effective. 

 

[timeEd32]

obligatory small sample size warning

 

Corners

2022/23

15.52 xG | 0.41xG/90 | 8 goals (0.21 per game)

6.47 xGA | 0.17xGA/90 | 8 goals against (0.21 per game)

 

2023/24

9.84 xG | 0.26xG/90 | 8 goals (0.21 per game)

8.56 xGA | 0.23xGA/90 | 9 goals against (0.24 per game)

 

2024/25

1.71 xG | 0.19xG/90 | 0 goals

1.01 xGA | 0.11xGA/90 | 0 goals against

 

Set pieces (direct free kicks excluded)

2022/23

8.7 xG | 0.23xG/90 | 3 goals (0.08 per game)

2.92 xGA | 0.09xGA/90 | 2 goals against (0.05 per game)

 

2023/24

6.44 xG | 0.17xG/90 | 8 goals (0.21 per game)

3.51 xGA | 0.23xGA/90 | 3 goals against (0.08 per game)

 

2024/25

0.80 xG | 0.09xG/90 | 0 goals

0.84 xGA | 0.09xGA/90 | 1 goal against

 

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Combined

2022/23 we generated 0.64xG and 0.29 goals per game

2023/24 we generated 0.43xG and 0.42 goals per game

2024/25 we have created 0.28xG and 0.00 goals per game

[KaKa]

7 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

You'd rather win a debate on the internet than see the club do well? Bit weird.

 

I think there's too much uncertainty and confusion with the way things stand.

 

We need a clearer line of authority, even if it means we end up suffering in the short term.

 

Right now it's this weird Howe vs Mitchell thing. The preference seems to be for Mitchell to be out of the way, and for Howe to lead.

 

We may as well go down that route and then everyone can judge the final result.

 

I don't think it will work, but it's the only way we can know for certain.

[Pata]

Sat next to some young lad in Level 7 against Brighton. Joined all the songs until Brighton scored, after that mostly slagged off our players with the highlight being 'ISAK, YOU'RE FUCKING SHITE!'. Fucked off when the 9 minute extra time started. Some of our fans can be so fucking fickle, it's unreal that someone as talented as Isak is being written off due to not being a massive battering ram. 

 

Not talking about @Shays Given Tim Flowers if anyone is wondering.

 

 

Edited October 28, 2024 by Pata

[Shearergol]

Just now, KaKa said:

 

I think there's too much uncertainty and confusion with the way things stand.

 

We need a clearer line of authority, even if it means we end up suffering in the short term.

 

Right now it's this weird Howe vs Mitchell thing. The preference seems to be for Mitchell to be out of the way, and for Howe to lead.

 

We may as well go down that route and then everyone can judge the final result.

 

I don't think it will work, but it's the only way we can know for certain.

 

There's a lot of assumptions being made here, a lot based on a shit journalist and even shitter posters on this forum. Let's see what the next two transfer windows bring.

[Pata]

1 minute ago, KaKa said:

 

I think there's too much uncertainty and confusion with the way things stand.

 

We need a clearer line of authority, even if it means we end up suffering in the short term.

 

Right now it's this weird Howe vs Mitchell thing. The preference seems to be for Mitchell to be out of the way, and for Howe to lead.

 

We may as well go down that route and then everyone can judge the final result.

 

I don't think it will work, but it's the only way we can know for certain.

 

This is all just speculation man. It's absolute weirdo and freak behaviour to crave for drama like this.

[J7]

There’s no chance that the owners are going to let Howe be in charge of everything. He goes before Mitchell. 

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, Shearergol said:

 

There's a lot of assumptions being made here, a lot based on a shit journalist and even shitter posters on this forum. Let's see what the next two transfer windows bring.

 

Yeah, this is based on if the rift that is spoken of exists obviously, which is the basis for the people that continue to blame Mitchell.

[KaKa]

4 minutes ago, Pata said:

 

This is all just speculation man. It's absolute weirdo and freak behaviour to crave for drama like this.

 

I think we're ultimately going to have to pick one clear road to go down if issues do exist behind the scenes, which would be getting rid of the drama actually.

[Lush Vlad]

32 minutes ago, andycap said:

Yeah but referred to a striker in your tactics post. 

I think a more rounded striker would get our formation a lot more effective. 

 

A more rounded striker than Isak, FFS. If he is worth say £80-100m. What would a better/more rounded striker cost  

[TRon]

1 hour ago, KaKa said:

 

I get the impression a lot of the fans don't appreciate this kind of setup or the importance of it going forward.

 

Mitchell is already public enemy number 1 and is deemed the source of our problems despite only being there 5 mins.

 

I actually really wish we'd get what they hope for and Mitchell leaves and Howe is left to it, so we can all see first hand how that plays out, with us being the only ones going against the grain and competing with clubs getting their house in order.

 

Summer 2023 was really the time to get things right. Man Utd and Chelsea were in a mess and Villa were still finding their feet.

 

I think we've pretty much blown it already, and things are likely to get worse before they get any better now with a larger scale reset or rebuild sometime in the future.

 

Until then remove any uncertainty behind the scenes and let's see how it plays out with Howe in charge of everything.

 

 

I'd rather go the other way and back Mitchell if it's going to be one over the other. There has to be a consistent direction, and I would expect any manager to follow the blueprint. At this point I still think Howe is that man, if he's not then we have to move on. I certainly think we should be past the stage of the CEO trying to win popularity points because he wants to prove a point to some fans by keeping a fan favourite against his better instincts then saying I told you so if it goes wrong.

 

 

Edited October 28, 2024 by TRon

[Izakaya]

If it comes down to Howe Vs Mitchell career vs career match, you must be smoking piss if you think it'd be Mitchell leaving.

 

After Ashworth leaving because of an apparent power struggle with Eddie and all the bullshit gardening leave that followed, there isn't a chance in hell we'd sack the following DoF for the same reason. 

[TheBrownBottle]

2 hours ago, Izakaya said:

If it comes down to Howe Vs Mitchell career vs career match, you must be smoking piss if you think it'd be Mitchell leaving.

 

After Ashworth leaving because of an apparent power struggle with Eddie and all the bullshit gardening leave that followed, there isn't a chance in hell we'd sack the following DoF for the same reason. 

Howe's power can only come from performance on the pitch - he would have been in a strong position with Ashworth.  I can't imagine Howe's stock is all that high at the moment - so I can't imagine he'd win an internal battle

[Conjo]

11 hours ago, Shearergol said:

 

I'd rather solve the massive tactical issues that result in Isak being completely isolated before finding a striker who can cope with being isolated.

 

Maybe I'm a little tainted by his recent performances, unless he's being asked to stay up top on the cb's shoulders no matter what and where the ball is, which i find hard to believe, I can't help but feel like him being isolated is a bit of his own fault as well?

[r0cafella]

1 minute ago, Conjo said:

 

Maybe I'm a little tainted by his recent performances, unless he's being asked to stay up top on the cb's shoulders no matter what and where the ball is, which i find hard to believe, I can't help but feel like him being isolated is a bit of his own fault as well?

We don't know what he's being instructed to do, he's obviously out of form mind. 

 

Couple of glaring issues are our wide players love to sit very wide and given our central midfield is pretty flat and our defenders love to back off it often leaves him with a 30 yard radius of emptiness. 

 

I think overall our team needs a lot of work which we were expecting last summer. I remember the reporting around January this year that big changes were planning for the summer and obviously nothing materialised, rather like our stadium and our training ground and out adoption of multi club

 

 

[Izakaya]

12 hours ago, Shearergol said:

 

Yeah he was class. That small moment in time where him, Perez and Almiron linked up was marvellous to watch.

 

The bitter realisation that Almiron is still here, and yet played with Salomon Rondon and Ayoze Perez 😫

[SUPERTOON]

 

[Lush Vlad]

Hardly doubt with how guarded he is at press conferences.  That he will come out and say "yeah, the midfield hasn't been working at all.  I'm going to change formation and maybe drop certain players".

 

If he genuinely thinks we don't need to make adjustments and he carries on as it is.  Then I think we'll eventually come fully unstuck and he'll be replaced.  

[Chris_R]

Personally I'd like to see Joelinton play as a 6 with Tonali and Bruno ahead.