Eddie Howe

[Erikse]

5 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:

 

The two are inextricably linked though. We sold two players, bought a useless keeper above his market value, and no one else because of how much we spent and the lack of sales the previous summer/January.

 

And apparfently we will still have problems in january, seemingly having to sell if we buy.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by Erikse

[Wolfcastle]

Tonali and Barnes were fine additions to the building of a club going to the top - supplemented with more of the same over following seasons changing the whole squad to top rank.

For a club that basically cant go beyond 7th with all things being equal they weren't good signings, bit on the luxurious side rather than the smarter business of earlier

[Keggy_Keagal]

35 minutes ago, Erikse said:

 

And apparfently we will still have problems in january, seemingly having to sell if we buy.

 

 

 

How can we be this up against it? This would be the third window with very little movements regards to incoming players. We were chasing a 60-70 million centre half in July . 

[Erikse]

6 minutes ago, Keggy_Keagal said:

How can we be this up against it? This would be the third window with very little movements regards to incoming players. We were chasing a 60-70 million centre half in July . 

 

I don't really know myself, but look at the last discussion in the NUFC specific FFP/PSR discussion thread. It's apparently about amortization from old transfers and wages being about even with our income, and that we would be relying on selling if we got Guehi in the summer. Also there were some talk of us actually bidding less for Guehi than what was reported. Didn't someone inside the club state that? Don't remember tbh. Not sure how much of this is true.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by Erikse

[Barnes23]

6 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

You'd probably be looking at foreign managers that are out of work. Potter would be a sideways step at best. If and when we replace Howe it has to be an upgrade/elite but I couldn't give you any names that are that without a load of research into it.

 

I think most people would be hard pushed to provide a name that is both credible and exciting and that kind of tells a story tbh. I don't think there is anyone obvious out there at all, and so parting ways with Howe would represent an even bigger risk than in other circumstances. 

[timeEd32]

11 minutes ago, Keggy_Keagal said:

How can we be this up against it? This would be the third window with very little movements regards to incoming players. We were chasing a 60-70 million centre half in July . 

 

Three windows is a misleading way to look at it. We spent a lot in 2022/23 and a lot in 2023/24 with only a modest amount of sales. The players we signed in 2021/22 are also still included in our amortisation number plus ever increasing wages.

 

So those three windows are the January of a year where we spent a lot and then the summer + January of the same accounting year.

[Sibierski]

4 hours ago, Sempiternal said:

The transfer window is more responsible for that than Eddie. Buying a striker that can barely get on the pitch for 5 mins, Kelly who is very very average. No improvement in the first team. Stand still you go backwards 

Wasn’t Kelly a Howe signing and Osula a Tindall recommended signing? 
 

[Colos Short and Curlies]

3 hours ago, Lush Vlad said:

I fucking hope not. That would be terrible. 

you know what? I don’t think it would be.

 

yes it would be short term, 2 seasons max but he’d get us top 4 and a cup before it goes wrong.

 

of course when it goes wrong it will absolutely implode mind 

[Lush Vlad]

5 minutes ago, Colos Short and Curlies said:

you know what? I don’t think it would be.

 

yes it would be short term, 2 seasons max but he’d get us top 4 and a cup before it goes wrong.

 

of course when it goes wrong it will absolutely implode mind 

I don’t think he’s what he used to be at all and the game has now evolved past what he brings. Not a chance he’s this automatic trophy manager now, either. Didn’t manage it at Spurs and they’re less cursed than us, for example. 
 

He’d fuck off all the fans and everyone else involved with the club in no time. The football would be woeful. The transfer dealings terrible and it would set us back long term, not help us. 
 

If we are planning on getting rid of Howe should results and the league position not improve from last season. Then I’d hope to fuck we have a better plan than appointing this cunt. 

[TheBrownBottle]

4 hours ago, JEToon said:

 

I can't go this level of hyperbole, I know people think going incredibly over the top on their point think it adds value to their point, but it really doesn't. 

 

We had a paper thin squad with a serious lack of quality when it came to home grown English players which would have been detrimental to our squad when it came to the Champions League. 

 

We added two fullbacks who will serve us for likely the best part of 10 years, and signed a by league standards, relatively cheap proven English player who has been, and will continue to be more than serviceable as part of our squad. 

 

We signed an Italian international for a fee that most would have said was exceptional value at the time relative to what comparable players of his talent move for. 

 

We have since sold a player for a profit of about 30 million who was signed in that window. 

 

The notion those transactions are reckless is hyperbolic nonsense 

 

This notion we are going to be where we want to be by simply making bargain bin basement additions some seem to cling to as a comfort blanket that we can beat PSR, is I am afraid not reality, we have to add quality players and they will cost money 

 

We are trying to thread a very thin needle, literally as a consequence of the leagues choice to try and keep us nailed to the floor, none of this was ever going to be as simple a process as some seem to think. 

 

 

 

Probably going to have to get your head around the fact that we’re not signing players with a view to them being here in ten years’ time.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 hour ago, Keggy_Keagal said:

How can we be this up against it? This would be the third window with very little movements regards to incoming players. We were chasing a 60-70 million centre half in July . 

We would’ve needed to recoup before the 30th June.  Just like this year.  We’re maxed out on the FFP credit card. 

[SUPERTOON]

Mourinho would be a disaster here, he’s been finished for years. Would swiftly lose interest if he ever gets the job.

[Ronaldo]

4 hours ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Please, no.

I’d rather Mancini. 

Ruthless fucker - we’ll never see Almiron, Wilson, Lascelles etc ever again. 

[cannybagoftudor]

If and its a big if - there are noises about removing Eddie then my (albeit fanciful) pick would be Simeone.  However luring him here would be expensive and I have no idea if he would be interested - just think he would fit.

[HaydnNUFC]

4 minutes ago, cannybagoftudor said:

If and its a big if - there are noises about removing Eddie then my (albeit fanciful) pick would be Simeone.  However luring him here would be expensive and I have no idea if he would be interested - just think he would fit.

 

Absolutely zero chance. Signed a new contract at Atleti only last year and can't see him managing anyone else, let alone us.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by HaydnNUFC

[Steve Charlton]

Get Tindall

[lovejoy]

It’ll be a German manager if Eddie is replaced, imo.

 

Hoeness, most likely.

[JEToon]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Probably going to have to get your head around the fact that we’re not signing players with a view to them being here in ten years’ time.

 

I don’t see any reason why every single player we sign is going to be signed with a view to them being sold. 

[Erikse]

1 hour ago, Steve Charlton said:

Get Tindall

 

And then he appoints Howe as his assistant. I think that might be the soltion.

 

 

Edited November 26, 2024 by Erikse

[Kanj]

7 hours ago, Erikse said:

Not that it means that much, but transfermarkt has our squad value at 7th, despite having an ageing squad. The thing is our weakness, accoring to many atleast, was supposed to be squad depth. We have some very good key players that most other teams don't have. We're not in Europe, and we don't have that many injuries currently. So this is supposed to suit us perfectly, as we can field most of our key players each week without suffering too much from fatigue or having to use too many mediocre backups.

 

 

 

 

it has absolutely nothng to do with value and most ppl won’t want to hear this but Jamaal and Krafth are absolutley fine squad players and actually quite good when needed in their roles. They’ve actually kept their levels. But rightfully are not first choice. It’s what Longstaff essentially is, fine as a squad player but has to be displaced long term. Those three shouldn’t be first choice and they are massively underrated by our fanbase. Jamaal and Krafth especially. Burn in that category too. 

[Erikse]

37 minutes ago, Kanj said:

it has absolutely nothng to do with value and most ppl won’t want to hear this but Jamaal and Krafth are absolutley fine squad players and actually quite good when needed in their roles. They’ve actually kept their levels. But rightfully are not first choice. It’s what Longstaff essentially is, fine as a squad player but has to be displaced long term. Those three shouldn’t be first choice and they are massively underrated by our fanbase. Jamaal and Krafth especially. Burn in that category too. 

 

Bringing in value was a pretty small point, but I think some of our fanbase tends to underrate our team of players a little. I think it's more than reasonable to expect atleast 7th without Europe. Finishing behind Villa with all their added games would be underperforming imo. I don't think that their squad is really that much better than ours, if it's even better in the first place.

 

Personally I think our depth is decent aswell, it just seemed worse than what it really is last season. Most of our backups are ageing at this point, though.

 

 

Edited November 27, 2024 by Erikse

[andycap]

4 hours ago, lovejoy said:

It’ll be a German manager if Eddie is replaced, imo.

 

Hoeness, most likely.

Bob? 😂 

[Menace]

I'd fall asleep every game if Simeone ever came here not that it would happen

[SUPERTOON]

9 hours ago, lovejoy said:

It’ll be a German manager if Eddie is replaced, imo.

 

Hoeness, most likely.

Think he will have bigger and better offers tbh.

[Izakaya]

No point binning Eddie unless we are 100% sure we can replace him almost instantly with an elite or almost Elite manager, who are obviously scarce at the best of times let alone being available when we need them.