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r0cafella

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Just now, BullyDogs said:

Thats a bold statement

Not really, I don’t believe any manager in the world could have achieved what Eddie has with us in this period of time when you take into account the starting point and the FFP limitations. 

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Theregulars

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50 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

I'd like to think Howe is open to learning, and he'll be reviewing every decision and be self critical. If he doesn't address his early season approach to rotation then we'll have this issue over and over, lessening as we go on as quality will improve and options will be better. If you don't think it's an issue then fine, doesn't seem many do, but if he has nothing to learn from this season and how to manage additional games and expectations, then experience is over rated at this level. 

I don’t think your argument works - the lack of rotation early season has only become a problem because a severe injury crisis means he can’t now rotate. November and December were always going to be months where we needed to rotate: he hasn’t been able to. If he was able to and didn’t, you’d have a point. 
 

I think he always has stuff to learn improve, in particular on conceding on the counter and a lack of formation options, but I don’t really think what happened is caused by his views on rotation. 

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Kid Icarus

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Obviously there's a limit to how far this goes, but I'm personally much more interested in feeling like I have a connection with the club, the manager, and enjoying the way we play than success at all costs. For me our ownership removes a big chunk of that, but Howe, the players, the way he has us playing, and the way he represents us gives me a ton back because it's 100% what I want and I agree, I genuinely wouldn't want anyone else. 

 

 

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SUPERTOON

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13 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

Think Emery would have handled this season better in terms of understanding European overload, but wouldn't swap them, even though I wanted him over howe at the time. 

I don’t think Emery would have gotten us into the champions league this season (I’m a massive Emery fan).

 

I still think Howe is the only manager in the world who could have achieved what he has with us so far.

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22 minutes ago, BullyDogs said:

Mourinho is a winner though...or should i say he was

 

He's also been given the privilege of spending hundreds of millions (20 years ago!) and given the time to get results.

 

Take Chelsea for example, from 03 (just prior to Mourinho in 04) to 07 (the season he left), they spent silly money in comparison to their rivals.

 

They bought: Glen Johnson, Geremi, Wayne Bridge, Damien Duff, Joe Cole, Juan Sebastián Verón, Adrian Mutu, Alexey Smertin, Hernán Crespo, Claude Makélélé, Scott Parker, Paulo Ferreira, Petr Čech, Arjen Robben, Mateja Kežman, Didier Drogba, Tiago, Ricardo Carvalho, Asier del Horno, Lassana Diarra, Shaun Wright-Phillips, Michael Essien, Michael Ballack, Salomon Kalou, Andriy Shevchenko, John Obi Mikel, Khalid Boulahrouz and Ashley Cole.

 

We have spent no way near that on the depth of our squad.

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40 minutes ago, BullyDogs said:

General hypothetic question here seeing as we were very interested in him before appointing Howe but would anyone swap Emery for him and do we think Emery would have done any better in the same space of time and further on?

 

Surely you jest, sir.

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Geogaddi

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The Emery comparison is daft , Villa were in a much better position in terms of squad etc when he got the job , they were only so poor due to Gerrard being such a bad manager .  We were on club on its knees from top to bottom when Eddie was first appointed.

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WideopenMag

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1 hour ago, Monters said:

Who should have been rotated and when?

We've been pretty short handed most of the season TBH, Anderson has been out for a while, Willock never started, Barnes and Tonali ages ago...

 

I agree with your point in general but just don't think the options have been there pretty much all season... 

Aye its a lazy observation you'd expect from pundits who don't properly follow Newcastle. Then when Howe does make changes we get whys he taken him off or not done x y or z. Damned if he does, damned if he don't. 

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Dr.Spaceman

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3 hours ago, The College Dropout said:

There’s probably a middile ground between being manager for the next 10 years and discussing his future because we’ve been knocked out the CL.  
 

Guardiola finished 4th first season. Klopp midtable. Klopp finished 5th last season, no real noise from the fans about his position. Arsenal board stuck with Arteta during some very dark days. 
 

Without evidence that we have a trigger happy ownership. It’s not worth the discussion imo.  It only adds fuel. It’s not constructive either. 
 

Let’s be honest.  We as a fanbase are not patient. Forget the Saudis. Bobby had 1 bad season, people wanted him out asap.  Crowd started booing home draws the next season. Pardew got into Europe with a team who was in the champ 2 years earlier, we signed practically no reinforcements - most people wanted him gone the next season when things went badly. 
 

Let’s not use SA as an excuse. We are not patient as a fanbase. 

 

You had me until Pardew :lol:

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Dr.Spaceman

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3 hours ago, OCK said:

[emoji38]

 

First Champions League in 20 years. 

"Group of Death"

Hammered PSG at SJP

Made PSG fight at whatever their stadium is called 

 

League Cup final

Still in top 10 despite injury list

Players love him

 

Aye, lets get rid. :pards:

 

Absolutely nobody on here is saying this FWIW.

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PauloGeordio

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I love Eddie and he won’t be going anywhere soon. He is part of the family now. We are ahead of our curve thanks to him. I actually feel relieved (yes disappointed too) that our not quite good enough, nor deep enough injury ridden squad is not fighting on four fronts anymore. We can consolidate, focus on the league and cups, get a few in in January and hopefully onwards and upwards :indi:

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2 hours ago, BullyDogs said:

General hypothetic question here seeing as we were very interested in him before appointing Howe but would anyone swap Emery for him and do we think Emery would have done any better in the same space of time and further on?

 

2 hours ago, Cronky said:

 

Surely you jest, sir.

 

1 hour ago, BullyDogs said:

as in the post it is hypothetical 

 

I appreciate that, but given what Eddie has achieved over the last 2 years, from such a desperate starting point, the idea that anyone else could have done better is unthinkable to me.

 

Emery has proved himself to be a fine manager, but Eddie has overachieved in a way that I had thought impossible. At the time when he took over, anyone who had said that 18 months later we'd be in the Champions League would have been visited by the men in white coats.

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Kid Icarus

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44 minutes ago, timeEd32 said:


This always seems to be the response. True no one is flat out saying to get rid, but why are we even talking about his job?

 

A few people (who also never said they wanted rid or anything approaching that) started sexting about how ruthless Yassir Al-Rumayyan is

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1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

A few people (who also never said they wanted rid or anything approaching that) started sexting about how ruthless Yassir Al-Rumayyan is

Yeah I’m not saying in any way he should go

jusy think they would be ruthless

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I don't understand the kamikaze attacking when it was 1-1. We were never going to win the CL but could have gone far in the EL. It was like a blackjack player twisting on 20 hoping to get the ace.

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