The Prophet Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Bookies know fuck all, if he is sacked this season I’d lose interest in the club pretty swiftly. Similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Similar. For me he gets another 18 months, I was going to say to turn it around but that sounds ridiculous. There is nothing to turnaround imo, we will come good if and when everyone is back and a quality RW is bought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dan said: If Howe was sacked, how much would it cost to get Xabi Alonso out of Leverkusen? He'll be the next one Man Utd or (more likely) Chelsea throw a fortune at to recruit before chewing him up, spitting him out and sacking him 9-12 months later. They love the latest toys. FWIW, he seems class and I hope he at least doesn't end up at either of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 The real disappointment is that during this difficult period, I don’t think anyone could point to something Howe has tried differently (and please call me out if you disagree!). There is simply no evidence of any tactical flexibility. Hopefully he’ll reflect and act, because I don’t think simply waiting for players to recharge / getting a couple more bodies back and hoping it’ll all come together again, is tenable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Chronic lack of pace in midfield cost us big time today. Once they managed our early press and worked out where to counter attack us, they destroyed us with their pace in wide areas. Miggy’s lack of a right foot and decision making was almost comical. Longstaff was ineffective (not match fit?). Miley was our best midfielder, that should not happen. Forest came out in the 2nd half, having refined where they needed to hit us and should have scored 4 in the next 25 minutes. Howe lost tactically today, the better side won. We need a boost, the players lost belief far too quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: For me he gets another 18 months, I was going to say to turn it around but that sounds ridiculous. There is nothing to turnaround imo, we will come good if and when everyone is back and a quality RW is bought. He needs to be judged on results when he's got a full squad available. Not to say he's handled games as well as he could, but he's earned the benefit of the doubt with two fantastic years here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 The fans have lost belief too though. Cannot really blame the players for losing some too. We've had a pure hefty season and a good amount of bad luck. Our confidence has taken a real hit and it's evident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, TRon said: He needs to be judged on results when he's got a full squad available. Not to say he's handled games as well as he could, but he's earned the benefit of the doubt with two fantastic years here. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I don’t know about anyone else, but I really don’t want to see him managing anyone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, GeordieT said: The real disappointment is that during this difficult period, I don’t think anyone could point to something Howe has tried differently (and please call me out if you disagree!). There is simply no evidence of any tactical flexibility. Hopefully he’ll reflect and act, because I don’t think simply waiting for players to recharge / getting a couple more bodies back and hoping it’ll all come together again, is tenable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 It's a miracle the wheels haven't fallen off sooner since the injuries. He desperately needs reinforcements, squad needs freshening up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I love Eddie Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: For me he gets another 18 months, I was going to say to turn it around but that sounds ridiculous. There is nothing to turnaround imo, we will come good if and when everyone is back and a quality RW is bought. Exactly. Where this narrative of "turning things around" comes from I do not know. Turn around what? Rock-bottom to top 4 and still in the top 7 now. Poor form and results granted, especially away but now affecting our home fortress, the genesis of which is injuries and nuclear-level fatigue leading to low confidence and those poor results. I'll criticize him for a bit of naivety when it comes to the lack of rotation earlier which could be part of the overall shit recipe aye. Maybe he needs to evolve again but it's hard to judge without a full squad to work with. The bloke has worked tirelessly to create an amazing culture and a squad unity rarely seen at the club. Don't managers get to have blips and bumps in the road anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Eddie is our king Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GeordieT said: The real disappointment is that during this difficult period, I don’t think anyone could point to something Howe has tried differently (and please call me out if you disagree!). There is simply no evidence of any tactical flexibility. Hopefully he’ll reflect and act, because I don’t think simply waiting for players to recharge / getting a couple more bodies back and hoping it’ll all come together again, is tenable. This is where it’s at for me as well - it seems teams now know how to play against us. We’ve been convincingly beaten by Everton, Luton and Forrest in recent weeks and I can still see us being on 29 points after at least 22 games, maybe more as the 2 after that are Luton and forest again. Edited December 26, 2023 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Howe has enough credit in the bank to be allowed to have a dodgy season and at the moment I wouldn't quite describe it as a dodgy season but it feels like it is heading that way This recent run has been poor and he rightly should be questioned/criticised for decisions made I've said it recently and it's even more true after today but he really needs to be ruthless, if next season the likes of Burn/Miggy are starting then he only has himself to blame and that is what will be his downfall Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
catlover24 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Howe’s team selection is like someone who tries to breeze through the entire season of Football Manager in one day, without touching the starting lineup or tactics in between games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonas Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 50 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: You looking to go on the list aye ? Ive warned you before about that Worf shite Are you with Worf Flags? And has that been done already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Jan is a huge window for Eddie as I feel his hands are tide atm to change things up. We need to bring in players to freshen up the squad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 44 minutes ago, Dan said: If Howe was sacked, how much would it cost to get Xabi Alonso out of Leverkusen? You think Alonso is leaving Leverkusen this season? They are 4 points clear in the Bundesliga and a top seed in the CL 2nd round. He’s one of the few managers I would trade Howe for. But I reckon he is Real bound at the end of the season with Carlo going to Brazil. He could possibly come here but certainly not this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, catlover24 said: Howe’s team selection is like someone who tries to breeze through the entire season of Football Manager in one day, without touching the starting lineup or tactics in between games. This is funny. He does start players listed as ‘tired’ though. 100%. In a few cases even through the FTG flag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
macphisto Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, Geordie Ahmed said: I've said it recently and it's even more true after today but he really needs to be ruthless, if next season the likes of Burn/Miggy are starting then he only has himself to blame and that is what will be his downfall That wouldn't be solely down to Howe as he's not in charge of recruitment. I'd place more responsibility on Ashworth but even then I don't know how true that would be as the owners are quite hands on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellis80 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 He’s been badly let down by players he trusted in the last two games. Team selection at Liverpool will be interesting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, GeordieT said: The real disappointment is that during this difficult period, I don’t think anyone could point to something Howe has tried differently (and please call me out if you disagree!). There is simply no evidence of any tactical flexibility. Hopefully he’ll reflect and act, because I don’t think simply waiting for players to recharge / getting a couple more bodies back and hoping it’ll all come together again, is tenable. I didn’t see it but people said we went 4231 against Luton for 20 minutes. I’m with you from what I’ve seen. He was like this last season too. We just got back on track much quicker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 9 minutes ago, Jonas said: Are you with Worf Flags? And has that been done already? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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