The College Dropout Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 6 minutes ago, Upthemags said: This is disingenuous - Howe spent 70 million pound on fullbacks precisely to lighten the load on our aging ones. We don't get to then throw up our hands and say there's no options to rotate I don’t think those were his choices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 10 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Howe was PIF’s choice. Emery was Staveley’s. Possibly, I'm not sure I believe that mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Upthemags said: I can restate it if you like - it's disingenuous to suggest there are no rotational options, when we have a wunderkind sitting on the bench for most all the game, and two knackered ones on the pitch who look world's away from being able to compete. Do you genuinely believe that would make a difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Jesus, just seen our next 4 fixtures Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, et tu brute said: Possibly, I'm not sure I believe that mind Tbf I’m only going on what Staveley said. Could be that she’s making her client’s judgement sound better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toon25 Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, midds said: He absolutely deserves the chance to turn this around and get the club back on track but I'm not totally sure he's going to get that time. It's the nature of the performances that's the most worrying thing for me. We look a shadow of the side that people genuinely feared last season, we're lush to play against and have been for some time. The intensity has (understandably) vanished, the edge we had, the momentum we generated have disappeared. We look a shambles at the back, CM get played through with simple passes and we can't seem to convert any chances even if we are on top in games. The whole thing just looks a big fucking mess every time we play atm. I know there's a lot of context and we've had some horrendous luck with injuries but that doesn't mask how bad it's been, you can only trot that out so often and for so long. I hope he stays but he needs some fucking performances, not necessarily results, pdq. Doing the same thing each week isn't fucking working, not addressing that is his biggest issue, it's not the fact we're getting dicked, it's how badly we're looking in the process This is absolutely where it's at for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elma Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said: You looking to go on the list aye ? Ive warned you before about that Worf shite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donut Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Now in the "top 4" with the bookies to get sacked. Ten Hag massive favourite, followed by good ol' Woy, Poch and then Howe. Surely not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Just now, Donut said: Now in the "top 4" with the bookies to get sacked. Ten Hag massive favourite, followed by good ol' Woy, Poch and then Howe. Surely not. Bookies know fuck all, if he is sacked this season I’d lose interest in the club pretty swiftly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUHRLYASLEEVESUP Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Elma said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Bookies know fuck all, if he is sacked this season I’d lose interest in the club pretty swiftly. Similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Similar. For me he gets another 18 months, I was going to say to turn it around but that sounds ridiculous. There is nothing to turnaround imo, we will come good if and when everyone is back and a quality RW is bought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, Dan said: If Howe was sacked, how much would it cost to get Xabi Alonso out of Leverkusen? He'll be the next one Man Utd or (more likely) Chelsea throw a fortune at to recruit before chewing him up, spitting him out and sacking him 9-12 months later. They love the latest toys. FWIW, he seems class and I hope he at least doesn't end up at either of those. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 The real disappointment is that during this difficult period, I don’t think anyone could point to something Howe has tried differently (and please call me out if you disagree!). There is simply no evidence of any tactical flexibility. Hopefully he’ll reflect and act, because I don’t think simply waiting for players to recharge / getting a couple more bodies back and hoping it’ll all come together again, is tenable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Chronic lack of pace in midfield cost us big time today. Once they managed our early press and worked out where to counter attack us, they destroyed us with their pace in wide areas. Miggy’s lack of a right foot and decision making was almost comical. Longstaff was ineffective (not match fit?). Miley was our best midfielder, that should not happen. Forest came out in the 2nd half, having refined where they needed to hit us and should have scored 4 in the next 25 minutes. Howe lost tactically today, the better side won. We need a boost, the players lost belief far too quickly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: For me he gets another 18 months, I was going to say to turn it around but that sounds ridiculous. There is nothing to turnaround imo, we will come good if and when everyone is back and a quality RW is bought. He needs to be judged on results when he's got a full squad available. Not to say he's handled games as well as he could, but he's earned the benefit of the doubt with two fantastic years here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 The fans have lost belief too though. Cannot really blame the players for losing some too. We've had a pure hefty season and a good amount of bad luck. Our confidence has taken a real hit and it's evident. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 1 minute ago, TRon said: He needs to be judged on results when he's got a full squad available. Not to say he's handled games as well as he could, but he's earned the benefit of the doubt with two fantastic years here. Yep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I don’t know about anyone else, but I really don’t want to see him managing anyone else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, GeordieT said: The real disappointment is that during this difficult period, I don’t think anyone could point to something Howe has tried differently (and please call me out if you disagree!). There is simply no evidence of any tactical flexibility. Hopefully he’ll reflect and act, because I don’t think simply waiting for players to recharge / getting a couple more bodies back and hoping it’ll all come together again, is tenable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 It's a miracle the wheels haven't fallen off sooner since the injuries. He desperately needs reinforcements, squad needs freshening up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 I love Eddie Howe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LionOfGosforth Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: For me he gets another 18 months, I was going to say to turn it around but that sounds ridiculous. There is nothing to turnaround imo, we will come good if and when everyone is back and a quality RW is bought. Exactly. Where this narrative of "turning things around" comes from I do not know. Turn around what? Rock-bottom to top 4 and still in the top 7 now. Poor form and results granted, especially away but now affecting our home fortress, the genesis of which is injuries and nuclear-level fatigue leading to low confidence and those poor results. I'll criticize him for a bit of naivety when it comes to the lack of rotation earlier which could be part of the overall shit recipe aye. Maybe he needs to evolve again but it's hard to judge without a full squad to work with. The bloke has worked tirelessly to create an amazing culture and a squad unity rarely seen at the club. Don't managers get to have blips and bumps in the road anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideopenMag Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 Eddie is our king Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted December 26, 2023 Share Posted December 26, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, GeordieT said: The real disappointment is that during this difficult period, I don’t think anyone could point to something Howe has tried differently (and please call me out if you disagree!). There is simply no evidence of any tactical flexibility. Hopefully he’ll reflect and act, because I don’t think simply waiting for players to recharge / getting a couple more bodies back and hoping it’ll all come together again, is tenable. This is where it’s at for me as well - it seems teams now know how to play against us. We’ve been convincingly beaten by Everton, Luton and Forrest in recent weeks and I can still see us being on 29 points after at least 22 games, maybe more as the 2 after that are Luton and forest again. Edited December 26, 2023 by Gawalls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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