Jonas Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Orphanage said: The squad for QPR was fucked with flu . We shouldve asked to call it off . Took bad myself at the same time. Might have been off that performance, might have been off a kebab te following night. Didn't eat anything from Monday until after we beat Forest the following Saturday, which is worth baring in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: But both Klopp and Pep proved they were elite coached a long time ago. Howe hasn’t. I don’t think Howe is as good as either. I would like to see him given a chance to prove me wrong. But this season has the potential to be horrid and cost him his job and he won’t be unlucky if it happens. He has to scrape us to 7th imo. From what I’ve seen in the last few weeks - I don’t see it. We need to improve. Perhaps Joe W coming back is a turning point. He doesn’t have the answers with the current midfield options. this season won’t cost him his job. where are people getting this from? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: But both Klopp and Pep proved they were elite coached a long time ago. Howe hasn’t. I don’t think Howe is as good as either. I would like to see him given a chance to prove me wrong. But this season has the potential to be horrid and cost him his job and he won’t be unlucky if it happens. He has to scrape us to 7th imo. From what I’ve seen in the last few weeks - I don’t see it. We need to improve. Perhaps Joe W coming back is a turning point. He doesn’t have the answers with the current midfield options. He proved he was an elite coach when he performed biblical level miracles to bring Bournemouth to the prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Sufi said: this season won’t cost him his job. where are people getting this from? If we finish 9th or below he could go. And we can defo finish 9th or below. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Sufi said: this season won’t cost him his job. where are people getting this from? To be fair you don't know that. Common sense would be he keeps his job, but football usually lacks that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 The past has shown us time and again that success comes from continuity, not chopping and changing managers all the time. There needs to be some context here. Injuries, champions league before we’re ready etc. has been a strain on the squad. That said, there are concerns IMO. We’ve been rolled over far too many times, not just by top teams either. Eddie has to answer for those but his job should be guaranteed for next season at least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Sufi said: He proved he was an elite coach when he performed biblical level miracles to bring Bournemouth to the prem. there’s not a single manager in this earth that is considered elite for achievements below the actual elite of football. He’s not in the same bracket as Pep or Klopp and doesn’t have their gravitas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, Vedder said: The past has shown us time and again that success comes from continuity, not chopping and changing managers all the time. There needs to be some context here. Injuries, champions league before we’re ready etc. has been a strain on the squad. That said, there are concerns IMO. We’ve been rolled over far too many times, not just by top teams either. Eddie has to answer for those but his job should be guaranteed for next season at least. This is not true. Wenger won his first league title in his first full season. As did Mourinho, Conte and Ancelotti. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, The College Dropout said: there’s not a single manager in this earth that is considered elite for achievements below the actual elite of football. He’s not in the same bracket as Pep or Klopp and doesn’t have their gravitas. Really? Do you think Klopp or Pep could do an Eddie at Bournemouth. With no money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Just now, The College Dropout said: This is not true. Wenger won his first league title in his first full season. As did Mourinho, Conte and Ancelotti. Fergie didn't though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: If we finish 9th or below he could go. And we can defo finish 9th or below. I don’t see him getting sacked. Nor do I want him to be. Even if we do finish 9th. We are a bunch of spoiled brats. From fighting relegation to playing PSG in the champions league to now calling for the managers head..all in 2 seasons. Let’s calm down he deserves a healthy squad and a full summer window. If we are 9th this time next year, then I’m right there with you. we brought in Tonali who has a gambling injury. barnes has been out most of the year. botman barely played. pope went down a few weeks ago. Isak hasn’t been fit. The injury prone Pele known as callum wilson has been in and out. we have a loanee we don’t want to play (for whatever reason) I think it would be very inconsiderate and rash to sack Eddie this season. Even if we do finish 9th. However I do believe he could have done better in terms of tactics, subs, rotation, etc this season Edited February 24 by Sufi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBingo Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: But both Klopp and Pep proved they were elite coached a long time ago. Howe hasn’t. I don’t think Howe is as good as either. I would like to see him given a chance to prove me wrong. But this season has the potential to be horrid and cost him his job and he won’t be unlucky if it happens. He has to scrape us to 7th imo. I disagree. Most of the problems this season are down to three or four factors in my opinion. - only two stikers in the squad, both with iffy fitness records. - our big summer signing getting banned for betting. - freak injuries to key players leaving him with a fatigued squad and limited choices. - not changing things that aren't working. - some of the squad simply aren't good enough. How many of those factors are purely down to Howe? Should he carry the can for decisions that he has no control over? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedder Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: This is not true. Wenger won his first league title in his first full season. As did Mourinho, Conte and Ancelotti. Mourinho, Conte and Ancelotti were all Chelsea who had obvious financial advantage over the rest of the league. We have to build a sustainable model. This is not going to be done by shitting our pants over a bad patch and starting new time and again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: If we finish 9th or below he could go. And we can defo finish 9th or below. Get a grip man. You are normally an ok poster but lately you have gone really really weird. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Really? Do you think Klopp or Pep could do an Eddie at Bournemouth. With no money. Doesn’t matter. 5 minutes ago, Sufi said: I don’t see him getting sacked. Nor do I want him to be. Even if we do finish 9th. We are a bunch of spoiled rats. From fighting relegation to playing PSG in the champions league to now calling for the managers head..all in 2 seasons. Let’s calm down he deserves a healthy squad and a full summer window. If we are 9th this time next year, then I’m right there with you. we brought in Tonali who has a gambling injury. barnes has been out most of the year. botman barely played. pope went down a few weeks ago. Isak hasn’t been fit. The injury prone Pele known as callum wilson has been in and out. we have a loanee we don’t want to play (for whatever reason) I think it would be very inconsiderate and rash to sack Eddie this season. Even if we do finish 9th. However I do believe he could have done better in terms of tactics, subs, rotation, etc this season Ok. I don’t know if PIF share that opinion should we underperform to that level. 8 minutes ago, Joe1984 said: Fergie didn't though. That was a good 40’years ago tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dancing Brave Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 18 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: But both Klopp and Pep proved they were elite coached a long time ago. Howe hasn’t. I don’t think Howe is as good as either. I would like to see him given a chance to prove me wrong. But this season has the potential to be horrid and cost him his job and he won’t be unlucky if it happens. He has to scrape us to 7th imo. From what I’ve seen in the last few weeks - I don’t see it. We need to improve. Perhaps Joe W coming back is a turning point. He doesn’t have the answers with the current midfield options. FFS ! Stop wetting the bed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Not that I want him to go, I want him to continue tbh, but people should understand that we are very likely to finish around 10-15 this season. I really ain’t sure what PIF would do by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) Comparing Howe with Ancelotti and co is fucking insane like Especially when Ancelotti at Everton did barely a fraction of what Howe has done for us so far. I don't want him gone by a long stretch - but there are a few warning signs I'm concerned about Injuries or not - we're joint on points with Fulham and Luton over the last 10 games. Edited February 24 by Menace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I won’t engage with you any further on this topic. I respectfully disagree. Time will tell Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dava1892 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 40 minutes ago, Sufi said: I’m not sure which camp annoys me more. The doom squad who are turning on Eddie after an injury crisis…or the boot lickers who view him as infallible based on one incredible season. Any manager can be criticized. Eddie has made several mistakes this season. He deserves more time but shouldn’t be given too long of a leash purely based on the injuries (or last seasons successes) What you doing here mate? Rhetorical question without asking a question or just gaslighting with writing one phrase then recapturing the same phrase in another context? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe1984 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Sufi said: I won’t engage with you any further on this topic. I respectfully disagree. Time will tell Who are you talking to? ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Dava1892 said: What you doing here mate? Rhetorical question without asking a question or just gaslighting with writing one phrase then recapturing the same phrase in another context? I need a translator for this one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 minute ago, Joe1984 said: Who are you talking to? ? college dropout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) He’s got some things wrong, but you would hope that he’d learn from it. Burn aside, he’s usually been quick to learn from his mistakes. The club also have to take a portion of the blame. We knew we would be stretched this year. We shouldn’t have been bringing in Barnes when we bought Gordon 6 months before, and Almirón, and Murphy were the options on the right. We probably shouldn’t have been bringing in Hall, if he wasn’t going to be in Howe’s plans this season. We should probably have moved Wilson on, considering both his age, and his injury record. Edited February 24 by Stifler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sufi Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Is everyone just piss drunk right now? Hahaha what on earth Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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