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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:02, Roha said:

We had to be clever in going around this PSR-shite. Whomever up in the boardroom has not been clever enough and we have not signed what has been screamed out for (RW-trickery). We are not able to sell our.. Well lets be honest under-par players even though other clubs manage. Our ship has been run in shambles.

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And yet, when Paul Mitchell essentially called this out, he got slated? 

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U don’t just sack a manager after few poor results/ performances ffs, has my backing till the end of the season at least. 
in 2 weeks we could have 6 points against Leicester and Ipswich and in a semi final 

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If I had a criticism of Eddie I don't think he is ruthless enough - he just doesn't seem the type to give these players the hair dryer treatment.  Week after week were doing the same types of mistakes.  Brentford were gifted the win today. 

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12th with a negative goal difference and only 5 wins. Might as well have The King in charge at this point. Those draws would have been wins. Some of them possibly defeats. Still better. 
 

Young Eddie has done well but he’s under pressure now the lad. see ya later. 

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First half performance was great in terms of creativity and cutting them open, felt like real green shoots let down by some diabolical decisions (Isak and Barnes). 2nd half was grim.

 

Still think Howe is the man and will sort it out given time, the signs are there imo, but no doubt that will be a minority opinion on here. 

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Unless we win a cup he is gone in the summer. Top 4 is already looking beyond us. We had our moments to push back up there and we hit implode.

 

Unless we continue to plummet and get pulled into the relegation race I think he will still get until then. That said, I don't think our owners give a shit about sentimentality at this point. We have been largely shite for a year and a half almost. Lost that spark after crashing out of the CL and other teams finding us out. 

 

I genuinely don't know who would be good enough that's available and willing that could step in. I could definitely see Mourinho on the phone to be interim until season end. I don't want that but i could see it.

 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:00, Keegans Export said:

What we really need is two or three additions in January. The problem is, thanks to our PSR position, we can't do that without selling one of our best players.

 

This is why managers ultimately get binned off, it's easier/cheaper than large scale player turnover. I'm not saying it's right, but we've got three big games coming up and if we don't get the results we need our season could be effectively over before Christmas. 

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I’m now at the point where I think with no additions. It is worth giving someone else a go. Fresh ideas, a different style of play, clean slate for certain players etc. 

 

If we do have money for January and Howe is still heavily involved in transfers. Then I’m not sure I’d trust him with those decisions or would I want ‘Howe’ players bought in. As I’m now at the point where I don’t have any confidence that he will turn it around here. Which has made me more sad than the defeat. 
 

:weep:

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:03, Newintoon said:

U don’t just sack a manager after few poor results/ performances ffs, has my backing till the end of the season at least. 
in 2 weeks we could have 6 points against Leicester and Ipswich and in a semi final 

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And if my auntie had a cock she’d be my uncle. We’ve been shit for over a year and are getting worse. 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:03, Newintoon said:

U don’t just sack a manager after few poor results/ performances ffs, has my backing till the end of the season at least. 
in 2 weeks we could have 6 points against Leicester and Ipswich and in a semi final 

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I'm with him until the end of the season myself but I'd struggle to gain confidence from beating two newly promoted teams when we're struggling against nearly everyone else. 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:03, Newintoon said:

U don’t just sack a manager after few poor results/ performances ffs, has my backing till the end of the season at least. 
in 2 weeks we could have 6 points against Leicester and Ipswich and in a semi final 

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Not allowed to do that!

 

Mass hysteria only please... 😅

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I said at the end of last season that if we were in the bottom half and struggling halfway through this season I’d be looking to push Howe out.

 

This has come to pass, but he still should have a bit of time offered.  If we’re out of both cups by the end of January and if league performances don’t improve is likely when I’ll join the cacophony.

 

We haven’t looked like a well-managed side for quite some time now - performances against the big boys at home are meaningless, as the players self-motivate for them. 

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That second half was the final straw for me. The lack of half time management, in game management and substitutions was

horrific. As I said earlier Frank took the piss out of him there. This is the same thing happening for a year now and this season we have seen just about every player regress. The

owners have a big couple of months coming up.
 

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He's been sold up the river by PSR but his style doesn't suit a side that is this jaded. We need to be firing on all cylinders for his intense style and we look stale as fuck. You could argue that he's no longer getting the best out of Bruno, Gordon, Tonali and the likes. All big money signings. 

 

Could well be 13th by the end of the day. Away from is horrendous. Faltering more and more at home. 

 

Don't want him gone but it doesn't look good. 

 

 

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:03, Newintoon said:

U don’t just sack a manager after few poor results/ performances ffs, has my backing till the end of the season at least. 
in 2 weeks we could have 6 points against Leicester and Ipswich and in a semi final 

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The problem isn't that it has been a few poor results/performances. We have been so awful away for a long time. We still have the same issues that we had 3 years ago. Its not just about this year. Its about the results regardless. He got to have his "injuries" excuse last year. This year he has nothing. The system isnt working. The players are for some reason only motivating themselves to play top 6. There is a change needed.

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  On 07/12/2024 at 17:05, Lush Vlad said:

 

 

If we do have money for January and Howe is still heavily involved in transfers. Then I’m not sure I’d trust him with those decisions or would I want ‘Howe’ players bought in. 
 

:weep:

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If he wasn't already I think Mitchell and his team will be firmly in the driving seat for deciding who comes in. Realistically the club and Mitchells role is setting a consistent style and vision throughout the club so whomever comes in as a player or manager they shouldn't need to adjust and play X bought in january shouldn't be a Howe player but a Newcastle player that will also fit the new manager.

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