Eddie Howe

[Lush Vlad]

2 minutes ago, toontownman said:

 

If he wasn't already I think Mitchell and his team will be firmly in the driving seat for deciding who comes in. Realistically the club and Mitchells role is setting a consistent style and vision throughout the club so whomever comes in as a player or manager they shouldn't need to adjust and play X bought in january shouldn't be a Howe player but a Newcastle player that will also fit the new manager.

I suppose I don’t have faith that he will turn it around nor do I think he’d be the man for the rebuild if we sold a big name. 
 

That second half I’ve seen too many times this season. Last season he had genuine reasons and I backed him all the way. I did this season up until the last 10-15 mins there.
 

I had deja vu watching that half. It’s just the same old shit and I don’t see how he can suddenly change our fortunes round when he clearly isn’t learning or adapting.
 

Even if we win our next 3. We have some tough games after that. So it doesn’t mean we’re back on track all of a sudden. 
 

I’m usually wrong with my football opinions (and betting). So I hope I’m wrong. I’m just not sure what giving him the season and another transfer window achieves. 
 

Feel proper sad about it all, TBH. Love Howe and what he’s done. But I just feel like he’s taken us as far as he can. 

[LionOfGosforth]

Love this man. From the minute he came in the door and I saw the first training session and heard him say "You're standing still, that's no good. You have to move", I loved him. Such a simple thing for him to say but it felt like a sea change in mentality immediately. And it was. I don't know if the players have stopped playing for him or not, it certainly wasn't the case 4 days ago. But if they have mentally checked out and lack motivation and focus against ALL teams, then the results suffer and it becomes a short road for the manager. Gutted today.

[Bunk Moreland]

1 minute ago, Keegans Export said:

Honestly, I have no idea.

 

But I also had no idea who Thomas Frank was until he turned up at Brentford and he's just embarrassed us in that second half. I still can't pronounce the Brighton managers name and he seems to be doing alright. 

 

Exactly, part of Mitchell's job will be to have a number of suitable candidates identified. They don't need to be free either, they might be in jobs but enticed by the opportunity presented here

[Pilko]

6 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

Brentford, Brighton, Fulham, Forrest  and Bournemouth should not be above us in the table. All of them apart from Bournemouth with a game in hand. It's not good enough. What can you actually blame it on? 

 

We can't have 2 seasons in a row out of Europe if you want to be one of the big teams. You can't just have 1 UCL season and then dip. People are no longer taking us seriously and it is very worrying. 

 

We've played all of those and our record is W1, D1, L3. 5 points from 5 games. That goes some way to explaining it.

[TheBrownBottle]

1 minute ago, Mahoneys Tache said:

Agree about SBR but at what point does it become untenable? And it’s dependent on the owners, not the punters. They will have expectations and if he’s not meeting those expectations he’ll be bulleted. Simple as that and whether the punters like it or not. We’re owned by businessmen , not football people and that’s how it works now.  
SBR was a good tactician who could adapt and modify his approach to a game as it was happening. This all seems a bit one dimensional, which is how Keegan got found out too. Great motivator, poor coach. 

Our shocking away form cost Robson his job - two wins in his final full season was fucking woeful.  As was his continued rigid selection of the same players again and again regardless of performance or form. 

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Sacking Robson wasn't the issue, doing it 5 games in and replacing him with Souness was.

Or course it was, making himself look a fool even mentioning it as a comparison 

[J7]

1 minute ago, HaydnNUFC said:

 

Sacking Robson wasn't the issue, doing it 5 games in and replacing him with Souness was.

Exactly. We weren’t far off Liverpool around that time. They replaced Houllier at the right time and brought in an ambitious replacement. We totally fucked it, made a mess off it, did it at the wrong time and brought in a truly horrendous replacement. ‘Sacking Bobby’, wasn’t the issue. 

[Joe1984]

7 minutes ago, AngelofTheFourth said:

Brentford, Brighton, Fulham, Forrest  and Bournemouth should not be above us in the table. All of them apart from Bournemouth with a game in hand. It's not good enough. What can you actually blame it on? 

 

We can't have 2 seasons in a row out of Europe if you want to be one of the big teams. You can't just have 1 UCL season and then dip. People are no longer taking us seriously and it is very worrying. 

Could be worse. We could be Leicester. They won the league and ended up relegated.

[jackflap]

Feels almost surreal saying it but it's looking like time to move on, there's very little positive to say about this season so far to give you hope things will improve. No point in moving on just for the sake of it though but I'd hope the club is being proactive behind the scenes with identifying possible successors.

[JigsawGoesToPieces]

Gone down hill since he made Bruno captain IMO, was an unnecessary thing to do, and he isn't a leader. 

 

Wonder if that's maybe disgruntled the players a bit?

[TheBrownBottle]

3 minutes ago, Roha said:

I see that you want to clean over the issues due to his lucky CL position. Im sorry but I dont share that sentiment. Even if we managed to luck ourselves to a 4th, it doesn't mean there wasn't any issues. The big hole between the midfield and defensive line has been there ever since, never fixed. Tonali cant perform in our team due to the weird flat 3 that just doesn't work. Yet in Italy in a double pivot he looks amazing. We have no bite, and at some point its not down to just the players. Its down to the system, they get asked and tasked to do a job and this is how it looks.

It wasn’t luck to finish 4th, we were a good side and Howe provided some exceptional management and coaching.  We’re a long way short at the moment including Howe but we can’t be rewriting history. 

[Ronson333]

Just now, Joe1984 said:

Could be worse. We could be Leicester. They won the league and ended up relegated.

I’d take that 

[Mahoneys Tache]

3 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

Our shocking away form cost Robson his job - two wins in his final full season was fucking woeful.  As was his continued rigid selection of the same players again and again regardless of performance or form. 

And yet he finished 5th the season before he was sacked and it was a dodgy result against a poor wolves side that cost us a place in the top four if I recall properly. Shepherd reacted to the punters, and didn’t think it through. 

 

 

Edited December 7 by Mahoneys Tache

[duo]

Mourinho is not the answer.  

[Pearljam10]

2nd most PL away defeats since start of last season 

[TheBrownBottle]

7 minutes ago, J7 said:

Exactly. We weren’t far off Liverpool around that time. They replaced Houllier at the right time and brought in an ambitious replacement. We totally fucked it, made a mess off it, did it at the wrong time and brought in a truly horrendous replacement. ‘Sacking Bobby’, wasn’t the issue. 

Robson was also managing one of the world’s richest clubs - our turnover was a long way ahead of two of the current ‘big six’ and was comparable to Liverpool’s. 

 

 

Edited December 7 by TheBrownBottle

[Big Geordie]

Coming towards the end game for Eddie, I think - particularly if we are unable to bring in new faces in Jan, and he can't sort out the issues defensively and our consistency. Mid-table finish won't be good enough for PIF come May,  This squad may well be broken up then and someone else brought in.

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

3 points from 21 vs these teams:

• Brentford
• Brighton
• Fulham
• Bournemouth
• West Ham
• Everton
• Palace

 

 

Edited December 7 by KetsbaiaIsBald

[Geogaddi]

20 minutes ago, Newintoon said:

U don’t just sack a manager after few poor results/ performances ffs, has my backing till the end of the season at least. 
in 2 weeks we could have 6 points against Leicester and Ipswich and in a semi final 

It's not a poor few results though is it , I love Eddie but we've been pretty shite for the best part of a year now .

 

 

Edited December 7 by Geogaddi

[Aiston]

Still the most mind-boggling thing, STILL NO FUCKING ATTEMPT TO FIX OUR SET PIECES

 

[OpenC]

1 minute ago, JigsawGoesToPieces said:

Gone down hill since he made Bruno captain IMO, was an unnecessary thing to do, and he isn't a leader. 

 

Wonder if that's maybe disgruntled the players a bit?

 

Aye, I wonder about this as well. Not sure it's something Bruno wants or thrives on either. Was there also talk of some senior leadership group in the team? There is nothing will divide a team quicker than some of them feeling less important than others imo

[David Edgar]

1 minute ago, duo said:

Mourinho is not the answer.  

 

But it would be fun. And it isn't like we are allowed to compete, so why not fuck about with Mourinho for half a season or so?

[Roha]

Just now, Aiston said:

Still the most mind-boggling thing, STILL NO FUCKING ATTEMPT TO FIX OUR SET PIECES

 

According to Howe we dont need a set-piece specialist.

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Mahoneys Tache said:

And yet he finished 5th the season before he was sacked. 

The performances had taken a massive dive, and he was managing a club which had a turnover level with Liverpool.  It was underperformance and looking like a decline.  Souness being utterly incompetent was the issue with his replacement. 

[St1pe]

3 minutes ago, Pearljam10 said:

2nd most PL away defeats since start of last season 

That’s not a good stat