Eddie Howe

[Joe1984]

12 minutes ago, Mike said:

 

I love eddie but We was done in by the weather is worrying.

He said it was a factor but not the reason for the defeat tbf.

 

The weather has been chaotic.

[Gawalls]

1 hour ago, et tu brute said:

Only because they haven't played one of the top teams at home yet. In fact they have only played Bournemouth in 10th out of the top ten

 

 

 

And they still haven’t, regardless of what a lot on here might think we’re not one the top teams either. We had no reason to expect to beat them.

[Mike]

1 minute ago, Joe1984 said:

He said it was a factor but not the reason for the defeat tbf.

 

The weather has been chaotic.

 

Brentford didn't seem to mind it. It's definitely something Alan would say, and get rightfully ridiculed for.

[ExiledGeordie]

35 minutes ago, Wallsendmag said:

He's overseen the rise and now he's overseeing the decline. I said on here after the Brighton game (and it's the only time I've ever said it) but I felt he'd taken this team as far as he could and it would be downhill from here on in.

 

Last season was poor, but there was mitigating circumstances. European distractions and injuries, plus Tonali. This season the fixture list is light and the injuries have been few. Only really Botman missing out of regular 1st teamers, maybe Wilson but Isak plays ahead of him anyway. Performances are even worse than last season though and worse still we've gone from having the tightest defence 2 years ago to leaking goals left, right and centre.

 

We aren't going down. We aren't qualifying for Europe. Personally I'd keep him till the end of the season and then shake his hand and pay him off. I actually think that's what they'll do as well. I think they'll try for Mourinho and I also think he'd walk here from Turkey for a job he's always wanted.

 

My choice however would be Iraola at Bournemouth. He's different class and I'd love to see what he could do with a bigger budget.

Yes my worry is Howe looks pretty worn out and like he doesn’t have the answers for this, he’s even said that in so many words. I think he’ll be here the rest of the season and go in the summer unless the arse completely falls out of it. The question would be who would they go for and are they available, that’ll probably dictate the timing of things. Someone also made a good point that there’s going to be a fair few to pay off if there’s a sacking. 

 

Im not vehemently Howe out, I do think there’s an inevitable feeling about it though. 
 

 

[et tu brute]

3 minutes ago, Gawalls said:

And they still haven’t, regardless of what a lot on here might think we’re not one the top teams either. We had no reason to expect to beat them.

Thai's the whole point of the last 100+ pages

[McDog]

Just now, Mike said:

 

Brentford didn't seem to mind it. It's definitely something Alan would say, and get rightfully ridiculed for.

 

 

I agree, unless we're in an alternate universe both teams played in the same weather. Maybe he meant the wind gusts only happened when we had the ball. 

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, Mike said:

 

Brentford didn't seem to mind it. It's definitely something Alan would say, and get rightfully ridiculed for.

Exactly what a load of bollocks

[TheBrownBottle]

Fucking hell, if I need to get the Alan Pardew Excuse Bingo cards out then we’re more fucked than I thought.

 

Ever blame the weather, king?  @Alan Pardew

[Kid Icarus]

26 minutes ago, Mike said:

 

I love eddie but We was done in by the weather is worrying.

He didn't say it tbf, Chronicle shit-stirring basically 

[Rafalove]

Im fully behind him, but quotes like that are often a sign a manager is running out of ideas. We’ve seen it countless times. Most notably with Pardew and Bruce.

[Mike]

1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said:

He didn't say it tbf, Chronicle shit-stirring basically 

 

Thank fuck for that.

[DiddyLevine]

Anyone remember how long Eddies contract is ? 

[Joe1984]

11 minutes ago, McDog said:

 

 

I agree, unless we're in an alternate universe both teams played in the same weather. Maybe he meant the wind gusts only happened when we had the ball. 

If any of you actually read the article you would know he said "I don't know if it was a factor. But both teams seem to have a better time of it when shooting the direction the wind was blowing".

 

Not seeing the issue here. If the gale force wind is blowing towards the goal you're shooting at, that obviously gives you an advantage.

 

Which was the case for both teams for 1 half each.

 

Likewise if you're attacking the opposite goal that the gale force wind is blowing towards, then the wind acts like an extra defender making it much harder to score.

 

Again this was the case for both teams for 1 half each.

 

So what Howe said was common sense and not an excuse.

 

But let's all react to the headline and not use our brains, right. 🤣

 

 

 

 

Edited December 7 by Joe1984

[Whitley mag]

The fact he admitted on that Jordan podcast that things had gone stale was quite telling, for the first time I thought he was looking for an excuse.

 

There is truth in you stand still and you go backwards, however he’s stuck by players past there sell by date and must shoulder part of the blame for the current squad state.

 

In hindsight Amanda giving Eddie everything he wants wasn’t  the right approach and Ashworth not wanting to give Joelinton a new contract is the biggest example of this.

[Mike]

Just now, Mike said:

 

Thank fuck for that.

 

Eh he kinda did. He just didn't say it was why we lost. Gonna give it a .3 on the Alan Scale.

[Yorkie]

36 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

You forgot the king 🤣

 

31 minutes ago, El Prontonise said:

 

You forgot 

 

Also Glenn Roeder got us to same position in 7th.

 

If you reckon 11/12 and/or 05/06 were better than last season then fair enough. I certainly don't, even if we picked up a few more points.

[Kid Icarus]

Just now, Mike said:

 

Eh he kinda did. He just didn't say it was why we lost. Gonna give it a .3 on the Alan Scale.

 

He said it was a factor in there naturally being a lot of individual errors in the match overall and that it made it a scrappy game, but that it couldn't be blamed at all for the goals we conceded. He made the point after saying the reason we lost was because our defending was shit and we made errors that cost us.

 

The Chronicle know what they're doing using a throwaway comment like that and putting it front and centre.

[Mike]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

 

He said it was a factor in there naturally being a lot of individual errors in the match overall and that it made it a scrappy game, but that it couldn't be blamed at all for the goals we conceded. He made the point after saying the reason we lost was because our defending was shit and we made errors that cost us.

 

The Chronicle know what they're doing using a throwaway comment like that and putting it front and centre.

 

Attributing attacking one goal being fruitful and then saying that the switch at HT had an effect is a poor excuse because the other team scored in both halves. It's not a full Pardew but it's something. The headline is dogshit, admittedly.

[McDog]

3 minutes ago, Joe1984 said:

If any of you actually read the article you would know he said "I don't know if it was a factor. But both teams seem to have a better time of it when shooting the direction the wind was blowing".

 

Not seeing the issue here. If the gale force wind is blowing towards the goal you're shooting at, that obviously gives you an advantage.

 

Which was the case for both teams for 1 half each.

 

Likewise if you're attacking the opposite goal that the gale force wind is blowing towards, then the wind acts like an extra defender making it much harder to score.

 

Again this was the case for both teams for 1 half each.

 

So what Howe said was common sense and not an excuse.

 

But let's all react to the headline and not use our brains, right. 🤣

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey brother, of course I didn't read it, that is what you lot are for.  

Glad to hear what was quoted on the Twitter post is not accurate because that would be a bit much.

 

[Displayname]

We have had shit away performances for one and a half year and have been carried by the atmosphere and energy the players get from playing at home. Please dont tell me that the negativity from some us come from him having his first bad streak of results. 

 

Its been going on for some time now. 

[Ronaldo]

1 minute ago, Displayname said:

We have had shit away performances for one and a half year and have been carried by the atmosphere and energy the players get from playing at home. Please dont tell me that the negativity from some us come from him having his first bad streak of results. 

 

It’s been going on for some time now. 

Even the most ardent Eddie lovers last season admitted (rightly) he needed a good start to this one. There’s a lot of head in the sand stuff going on. Thankfully some smart, balanced opinions too.

[El Prontonise]

14 minutes ago, Mike said:

 

Attributing attacking one goal being fruitful and then saying that the switch at HT had an effect is a poor excuse because the other team scored in both halves. It's not a full Pardew but it's something. The headline is dogshit, admittedly.

 

Aye, the headline is total misleading and click bait.

 

It's the same for both sides.

[80]

2 hours ago, Joe1984 said:

No my logic was why would an elite manager join a club not in Europe and sitting 12th in the league?

 

You can talk about Elite managers all day long. They may not want to come here.

 

Of course Eddie is replaceable, everyone is.

I agree that the idea of us hiring an elite manager might be fanciful, but they don't necessarily have to be seen as elite today to actually be elite once they get here.

 

Frankly, Eddie was a great example of that until about 12 months ago.

 

If we've got the talent at director/board level, it's very plausible we get someone seriously good, regardless of their reputation. I accept I'm one of the first to say that's a huge "if", mind.

[80]

1 hour ago, DiddyLevine said:

With Eales stepping down due to ill health , who exactly is in charge ?

Maybe a reason why Eddies not getting pushed till the end of the season ?

This is a good question.

[Superior Acuña]

Shearer raised the point of the pressing, I almost forgot we did that. Last season there was the excuse that we were too tired to do that cos of the CL and injuries. I bought that. But what’s the reason now??