LiquidAK Posted yesterday at 18:05 Share Posted yesterday at 18:05 We've basically been unable to improve the squad for multiple transfer windows, and despite an aging team on the decline he's still got us to a 2nd final in 3 years, and in the race for Europe for the third year in a row. If people think there's some mythical manager we could go out and get who is going to do better with those restrictions then I've got some magic beans to sell you. At the very least he deserves a chance to make some signings and kick on, there's only so much any one man can keep the wheels on the bus without additional resource Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted yesterday at 18:06 Share Posted yesterday at 18:06 It’s hard to fill a forum with sensible posts when basically the club is on the right track, we have a class manager and nothing to worry about except time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted yesterday at 18:08 Share Posted yesterday at 18:08 5 minutes ago, The Butcher said: There's 0% chance he walks. He'll never get a bigger or better job than this. If you think that owners won't move him on due to financials,Howes wages are nothing to PIF, moving him on may recover those payments should we climb the league or indeed qualify for Europe with a replacement, there will be others when you see Liverpool pull foreign managers such as there one Slot, wasn't on my radar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted yesterday at 18:12 Share Posted yesterday at 18:12 While I doubt anyone wants him to go I think it's fair to question some of what we are seeing, it's desperate stuff at times. I know he then goes on unreal runs but just looks shit right now. I do think he needs to address our style as we don't really press often enough, invisible when other team has ball and they walk by us, lots of silly mistakes, defend too deep in our box, let teams run onto us, no dynamic movement behind their midfield and either slow as fuck and side to side or misplaced passes too often. Puts us under huge pressure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted yesterday at 18:17 Share Posted yesterday at 18:17 He will eke another streak out of the team to close the season and finish top 6 imo, but major upgrades are needed in the summer. We need 4 first teamers and better squad competition on top of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted yesterday at 18:26 Share Posted yesterday at 18:26 in his interview he analysed that we've been poor technically in the last group of games and that will be the focus of the next training. He knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted yesterday at 18:31 Share Posted yesterday at 18:31 1 minute ago, Smal said: in his interview he analysed that we've been poor technically in the last group of games and that will be the focus of the next training. Good. I mean hes not dumb, but we got to stop shooting ourself in the foot game after game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted yesterday at 18:32 Share Posted yesterday at 18:32 (edited) The weird sort of 4-4-2 he played today and the almost 4-4-1-1 at Anfield didn’t work particularly well. Felt like there was even more space between the lines playing this way. I like that we commit players high. But for a while now. We just stick players in the opposition half and they all just sort of jog between players passing it round us with ease. The likes of Joelinton and Gordon just doing doggies and chasing shadows. There doesn’t seem to be a lot of structure to it or the intensity that we had before. So we end up with quite a few bodies wrong side of the ball. As they work it into dangerous areas off a few passes and find the space between our lines. I also agree with what others are saying. If we do go full send and a bit gung ho. Teams are combating our press by going long or direct into midfielders or attackers dropping off into the middle. So perhaps Howe is just trying to find a balance and the best way to counter it. Edited yesterday at 18:33 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis H Posted yesterday at 18:38 Share Posted yesterday at 18:38 Looking at the bigger picture, it’s 13 wins in the last 18. Liverpool and Man City away and the bizarre Bournemouth game are 3 of the 5 defeats. Anyone wanting him gone, as always, is just simply wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted yesterday at 18:39 Share Posted yesterday at 18:39 33 minutes ago, joeyt said: some absolutely mad posts on here today I don’t understand how it’s that mad. We overspent, resulting in losing two prospects, and it’s still affecting us now? is that not how it went? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingxlnc Posted yesterday at 18:41 Share Posted yesterday at 18:41 First half we were decent. Glad to see big Joe back. The squad has got John Carver 2014 vibes. Needs the PIF equivalent of that 2015 summer when Ashley’s NUFC was the biggest spending club in Europe. Without the impending relegation obvs Even the squad players seem cooked. Target, Willock, Wilson for sure and Longstaff didn’t even come on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBG Posted yesterday at 19:01 Share Posted yesterday at 19:01 Longstaff hasn't played in a while Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GideonShandy Posted yesterday at 19:35 Share Posted yesterday at 19:35 51 minutes ago, Weezertron said: I don’t understand how it’s that mad. We overspent, resulting in losing two prospects, and it’s still affecting us now? is that not how it went? Who did we "overspend" on? Isak? Tonali? Bruno? Gordon? Hall? Livramento? Botman? Would you swap the contributions that any of those have made for what we might have got out of Minteh or Anderson (no disrespect to either)? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted yesterday at 19:54 Share Posted yesterday at 19:54 If the issues that have mentioned are down to squad depth and lack of funding should we not of moved on an asset seeing as we can't get rid of the dross to fund that issue, maybe Bruno seeing as we have Miley and Willock sniffing around.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted yesterday at 19:56 Share Posted yesterday at 19:56 1 minute ago, wyn davies said: If the issues that have mentioned are down to squad depth and lack of funding should we not of moved on an asset seeing as we can't get rid of the dross to fund that issue, maybe Bruno seeing as we have Miley and Willock sniffing around.. Miley and Willock aren’t good enough to be Bruno replacements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn davies Posted yesterday at 19:58 Share Posted yesterday at 19:58 1 minute ago, SUPERTOON said: Miley and Willock aren’t good enough to be Bruno replacements. Maybe not but we need to do something, was only a suggestion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted yesterday at 19:59 Share Posted yesterday at 19:59 1 hour ago, Weezertron said: I don’t understand how it’s that mad. We overspent, resulting in losing two prospects, and it’s still affecting us now? is that not how it went? Howe isn't to blame for that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 20:13 Share Posted yesterday at 20:13 11 minutes ago, joeyt said: Howe isn't to blame for that Howe is partly responsible for it - he’s the manager and was part of the ‘transfer committee’ that we kept hearing about. Learning about what funds are available and how PSR works isn’t exactly rocket science, and it directly impacts his job. So I’m going to go with the assumption that he isn’t stupid, and made the calls he did in the transfer market knowing how that would limit him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted yesterday at 20:15 Share Posted yesterday at 20:15 1 minute ago, TheBrownBottle said: Howe is partly responsible for it - he’s the manager and was part of the ‘transfer committee’ that we kept hearing about. Learning about what funds are available and how PSR works isn’t exactly rocket science, and it directly impacts his job. So I’m going to go with the assumption that he isn’t stupid, and made the calls he did in the transfer market knowing how that would limit him. Who have we overspent on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted yesterday at 20:19 Share Posted yesterday at 20:19 3 minutes ago, joeyt said: Who have we overspent on? Barnes and Osula are only ones I can think of. Gordon was a big fee at the time but we’d easily make that back now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted yesterday at 20:21 Share Posted yesterday at 20:21 (edited) 1 minute ago, Jordan said: Barnes and Osula are only ones I can think of. Gordon was a big fee at the time but we’d easily make that back now. Maybe Targett given his lack of minutes since we signed him permanently. £20m on that keeper from Forest too but I’ve no idea on the FFP gymnastics involved with that one. Wood was an eye watering price but we recouped a big chunk of that. Edited yesterday at 20:21 by Fak Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted yesterday at 20:22 Share Posted yesterday at 20:22 4 minutes ago, joeyt said: Who have we overspent on? It isn’t necessarily that we overspent on an individual player, it is that the money spent was spent by Howe on the players he chose to spend it on, and did so with few outgoings - and most of our squad players would be worth a fair bit less than they would have a year or two ago. Howe deserves a lot of credit for the success of most of our signings - but I don’t understand how he’s able to get all the credit for transfer dealings yet somehow gets to abrogate responsibility for any issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted yesterday at 20:22 Share Posted yesterday at 20:22 And yet we got Hall, Bruno, Botman, Isak, Burn for ridiculously good deals. Tonali possibly too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted yesterday at 20:23 Share Posted yesterday at 20:23 And Trippier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Posted yesterday at 20:23 Share Posted yesterday at 20:23 Just now, Fak said: Maybe Targett given his lack of minutes since we signed him permanently. £20m on that keeper from Forest too but I’ve no idea on the FFP gymnastics involved with that one. Wood was an eye watering price but we recouped a big chunk of that. Yeah but £12m for a proven LB who looked very good on loan seemed sensible to me at the time. i dont even class Vlach transfer as a real one. The Anderson deal was dodgy as fuck PSR balancing from both clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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