Kid Icarus Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Jackie Broon said: Actually since the start of the 23/24 season, I think Eddie has been trying to play a more choosing our moments to press style since then... and we still can't make it work. Dunno about that mind, 23/24 has a lot of the matches I reminisce about, particularly at the start of the season. Villa, PSG, Sheff United, Man United, Chelsea. I also remember the 3-1 loss away to Brighton because of how impressed I was by Brighton that they managed to play through it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Its why Eddie Howe see's it too. Most clubs don't evolve from chipper disruptor club to league and Europe masters after just one season, though. That apostrophe situation is a disruptor and not in a good way either. Edited March 26 by bobbydazzla Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Really good analysis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, duo said: Really good analysis See what he comes back with in a few weeks time....I predict a riot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) The worry for me about going again with Howe isn't so much about his managerial skills, but more about how involvement he wants over transfers this summer. I doubt that he has had much time to scout other players this season, which is not his job anyways. He can do wonders with a strong team, but if we get this rebuild wrong and go all wasteful again, then it could take years to recover. We'll need to be very efficient with our money this time around. I'm willing to trust him to oversee the rebuild, only if he's open minded towards our transfers. Noone knows whether he is or not really. Edited March 26 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 minutes ago, Erikse said: The worry for me about going again with Howe isn't so much about his managerial skills, but more about how involvement he wants over transfers this summer. I doubt that he has had much time to scout other players this season, which is not his job anyways. He can do wonders with a strong team, but if we get this rebuild wrong and go all wasteful again, then it could take years to recover. We need to be very efficient this time around. He's got a team to help him TBF, he probably just makes the final choice. I can hold down a full time job, be a full time arsehole, happy alcoholic, greedy fucka AND still take Preston to the dizzy heights of mid table 3 seasons in a row on FM mobile 2026. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 hours ago, Monters said: Out of interest who doesn’t he trust? Just off the top of my head, Elanga, Wissa and Woltemade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills and Boon Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 16 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: If you consistently burn out in the second half then you haven’t been set up well at all. That's more to do with a build up of fatigue from the number of games we've played than it is on how we set up against teams like the mackems though. And it's a different point entirely. Not holding on to leads has been a big issue, but the fact we're in a position to hold onto a lead in the first place means we're set up well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 40 minutes ago, Erikse said: The worry for me about going again with Howe isn't so much about his managerial skills, but more about how involvement he wants over transfers this summer. I doubt that he has had much time to scout other players this season, which is not his job anyways. He can do wonders with a strong team, but if we get this rebuild wrong and go all wasteful again, then it could take years to recover. We'll need to be very efficient with our money this time around. I'm willing to trust him to oversee the rebuild, only if he's open minded towards our transfers. Noone knows whether he is or not really. Apart from last summer, where it became a necessity, there's little evidence to suggest Howe wants an abnormal abount of control over transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Always thought saying a manager doesn’t “trust” players is a weird way to think about it. He’s making selection and tactical decisions all the time, some players take longer to come good than others. Maybe he “trusted” people when he brought them in but when they don’t perform (or sometimes if the team overall isn’t working) he has to make other choices. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 1 hour ago, duo said: Really good analysis The analysis is very good, but his conclusion (doing sort of 3rd way centrism on HoweIn-ism and HoweOut-ism) is unsatisfying and a bit convictionless imo, especially when it seems like he does have a conclusion (Howe in) but doesn't come out and flat out say it. Edited March 26 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 The fantastic thing about Howe and his team is that despite this difficult season no player has broke rank and twisted, he has total control over the squad and they have faith in him to the point that they follow his instructions despite been knackered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 10 minutes ago, The Prophet said: Apart from last summer, where it became a necessity, there's little evidence to suggest Howe wants an abnormal abount of control over transfers. There’s no way any team could rely on players primarily scouted by the manager. What probably happened is that overall we didn’t have the right structure in place, Mitchell had gone so we (as a club) had to go for some more obvious targets. It doesn’t mean Howe insisted on every single one at the exclusion of any other option. Not sure why that has become the narrative. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ben said: The fantastic thing about Howe and his team is that despite this difficult season no player has broke rank and twisted, he has total control over the squad and they have faith in him to the point that they follow his instructions despite been knackered The way we played up the second half of the second Barca game showed me everyone is totally behind the manager and we should be too. We are currently struggling to do that every week and sadly we chose Sunderland to lose to, but overall there’s absolutely no sign of discontent at all. I also feel Howe doesn’t get enough credit for never disposing of or writing off any player. Wissa is the closest at the moment but I still believe he’d look to bring him back if he thought he could risk it. He never seems the type to give up on a player. Edited March 26 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: The way we played up the second half of the second Barca game showed me everyone is totally behind the manager and we should be too. We are currently struggling to do that every week and sadly we chose Sunderland to lose to, but overall there’s absolutely no sign of discontent at all. Fuckin Palace are getting a good old fashioned whopping in a few weeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Also Howes record in the transfer window is brilliant or at least the targets he wants, Last season was far to rushed when he wanted them in early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, astraguy said: Also Howes record in the transfer window is brilliant or at least the targets he wants, Last season was far to rushed when he wanted them in early Aye, imagine his team if he got his first choice picks and kept Isak ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
astraguy Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, Ben said: Aye, imagine his team if he got his first choice picks and kept Isak ? don't care about isak tbh , it just went on far to long it damaged who we could get and ruined out start to the season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 There was a narrative from the off that Howe was only interested in former-Bournemouth or English players, but our transfer team that knocked incomings out the park for a few consecutive transfer windows. After one summer where a couple of signings have got off to poor to indifferent starts, it's back. The thing is, you'd hope we'll never be in a position like we were in the summer window ever again (if we are, it's PIF that want shooting with shit). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 3 minutes ago, astraguy said: don't care about isak tbh , it just went on far to long it damaged who we could get and ruined out start to the season At the time we were all thinking how could he play with Ekitike, i think we forget how much Isak fucked Howe over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 Might want give Tonali’s mam a ring from the staff room and confirm that it’s definitely her signature on the sick note that Sandro handed in on Sunday morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
1881 Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 (edited) Although Adam Cleary is one of the better self-styled football analysts on YouTube I still can’t get passed the way he makes statements as if they are facts when they are only his opinions. His opinion on how we should try and fix our “losing control” issues would have made for a more interesting video, perhaps he doesn’t have the solution. And if he does, perhaps he should give Eddie a ring. Edited March 26 by 1881 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbydazzla Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 7 minutes ago, 1881 said: Although Adam Cleary is one of the better self-styled football analysts on YouTube I still can’t get passed the way he makes statements as if they are facts when they are only his opinions. His opinion on how we should try and fix our “losing control” issues would have made for a more interesting video, perhaps he doesn’t have the solution. And if he does, perhaps he should give Eddie a ring. You’re basically describing 90% of the posters on here who comment about tactics and transfers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 1 minute ago, bobbydazzla said: You’re basically describing 90% of the posters on here who comment about tactics and transfers I don’t see it’s avoidable unless everyone writes ‘in my opinion’ after every sentence. It’s all just opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted March 26 Share Posted March 26 2 hours ago, The Prophet said: There was a narrative from the off that Howe was only interested in former-Bournemouth or English players, but our transfer team that knocked incomings out the park for a few consecutive transfer windows. After one summer where a couple of signings have got off to poor to indifferent starts, it's back. The thing is, you'd hope we'll never be in a position like we were in the summer window ever again (if we are, it's PIF that want shooting with shit). I do find it a bit mad that PIF don’t get anywhere near the level of criticism that Howe does. They have pretty much done nothing positive for two years. If anything, Howe’s achievements up to now have saved them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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