Eddie Howe

[Displayname]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

Howard Kendall from 92-94?

 

Yep, I’m pushing it on that one

Haven't even heard of the fellah, so can't have been the biggest of recoveries.

[dcmk]

11 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I just wrote that it doesn’t (you still have to build a winning team) and I was replying to someone who kept talking about Bournemouth.  But somehow the idea has sprung up that he performed wonders on a shoestring when in fact he was massively backed by a wealthy owner.  

I'm sure the budgets were much less than the rivals in the division.  

[Fak]

1 minute ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

The lads embarrassing you, you just don't see it 

 

 

Arse licker 

[RUHRLYASLEEVESUP]

Just now, Fak said:

 

Arse licker 

What's that got to do with anything ? 

[TheBrownBottle]

Just now, Displayname said:

Haven't even heard of the fellah, so can't have been the biggest of recoveries.

Lucky you  

 

Won the title in 92, to 17th in 93 (a CL season), back to 5th the year after - and 5th again the year after that (which meant European qualification)

 

Very different time, though

[Mole]

7 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Losing 1-0 and being a massive missed chance away from a 1-1 away to a team whose home form is Won 13, Drawn 2, Lost 2 despite us being in shite form and massively low on confidence seems like a high bar to meet for what's deemed acceptable, especially when 99% of the people on here's expectation was that we'd get bummed senseless.

 

 

 

Tbf expecting to get bummed was always very silly and I can say that because I said as much yesterday. Main reason being they are under a shit load of pressure and the way Arteta has them set up isn't exactly conducive to bumming anyone.

[Displayname]

Just now, TheBrownBottle said:

Lucky you  

 

Won the title in 92, to 17th in 93 (a CL season), back to 5th the year after - and 5th again the year after that (which meant European qualification)

 

Very different time, though

Not too shabby I guess.

[UncleBingo]

1 minute ago, RUHRLYASLEEVESUP said:

The lads embarrassing you, you just don't see it 

 

You're so far up his hoop I doubt you can see anything, you sycophantic berk.

 

What has he embarrassed me about exactly? Pointing out that NUFC have a long history of shooting ourselves in the foot......or was it when he pulled me for a typo?

[bobbydazzla]

16 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

The Gramgram fella. Just seems too reactionary. 

Got no idea what you mean.

 

UncleBingo called GramGram a silly cunt and said they should pipe down because they only signed up a few weeks ago.

 

And I thought that was out of order.

 

My response had nowt to do with GramGrams opinion. I was pointing out that just because someone is new to N-O doesn’t mean their opinion is irrelevant.

[TheBrownBottle]

4 minutes ago, dcmk said:

I'm sure the budgets were much less than the rivals in the division.  

I’m not saying they were the highest, but a c.£40m loss in a season in the second tier - when you’re not a recently relegated side - is some going. 
 

Again, this is not to say he didn’t do an excellent job in getting them up, but it isn’t the same as it being unimaginable 

[Pilko]

Just now, Kid Icarus said:

And we're wrong now, but it wasn't based on a lack of evidence, nor does it mean that because we've had a shit season that Howe is the first thing we should choose to change.

 

What will be will be in the summer, I think the thing we all agree on is that the squad needs some decent surgery and the addition of some technicians, flair, creatives, call it what you will, Eddie staying or Eddie going.

 

The more of these performances I watch, the less faith I have that Eddie has any interest in doing so. I think the same stubbornness/headstrong belief that won us a cup and got us 2 CL campaigns will now continue to go the other way and regress us further because I do think he'll double down on more athletes and shite pacey wingers. He doesn't seem to be interested in trying to properly utilise our only creative attacker in Woltemade and he's now dropped one of our other more creative outlets in Hall after one bad game.

 

We'll undoubtedly have a better league season than this shitter we've had but in the event we get Europe again it'll be the same struggle to manage the games if we rely on pressing and running so much rather than trying to control some games. We've heard a lot of talk about "learning" from him this year but no real evidence of it on the pitch and that worries me a lot.

 

When I lens back from it I do actually admire the staunch take that you, dcmk and others take where you're backing him to the hilt, I just think each passing week we're seeing more evidence he's running of ideas, road and energy.

[tgarve]

1 hour ago, Astroblack said:

If we’re getting rejected by every top prospect on the player end, it’s going to be the same on the manager end, too. We’re lucky to have Eddie, have to let him sort it out. He will, he always does. No other person I’d rather have to fix it than Eddie. He got Bournemouth from League Two to the Premier League. He won Newcastle United their first trophy in 50+ years, and it’s not like that was a fluke, we were in the final two years prior. 

Love this 

 

I’m back In 

[Kid Icarus]

3 minutes ago, Mole said:

Tbf expecting to get bummed was always very silly and I can say that because I said as much yesterday. Main reason being they are under a shit load of pressure and the way Arteta has them set up isn't exactly conducive to bumming anyone.

Sounds familiar...

[GOTONEW]

Not sure today is anything other than a free pass. Not a very "big club" attitude, I know. But I'm struggling to feel owt from a narrow loss to Arsenal. Arsenal are a weird team/club. A ghostly vacuum. Weird. 

BTW: Some would do well to go back in this thread to the very beginning of the rumours he was in with a shout of being our manager.

 

It's quite funny the posters who were outwardly disappointed then, but are now acting like the OG Howe FC supporters. 

Note: Some were also underwhelmed with the news of Emery. Hindsight and all that. Still funny

PS. In the spirit of fairness, I believe I was also underwhelmed with the various names, and Howe when officially announced. 

[Dr Venkman]

58 minutes ago, Gramgram said:

What’s my join date got to do with it? I’m a fan like everyone else, and there’s no getting away from the fact that us fans have turned on managers for far less.

Alreeat mayat?

[Holmesy]

1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said:

Have you considered that people might think he doesn’t need to come back a totally different coach?

It’s clear most of the Eddie diehards feel that way - it’s the only way they can feel really. I think there’s now a general acceptance that he won’t change, so it’s either more of the same or a new manager.

I’m at the point now where more Eddie ball isn’t something I want, regardless of if it gets us back into Europe, because we’ve seen its limitations and his. I’d rather we had a manager with a higher ceiling, and that comes from adaptability and flexibility.

[Jesse Pinkman]

Even if Howe wins every game for the rest of the season, I want him gone. 
 

I hate his philosophy and approach. To drop a generational talent for a league 1 clogger purely due to height is just not how I believe football should be played. It’s not how Newcastle should play. We are not Stoke City.

 

i would rather see us lose getting the ball down and playing with the most talented players possible then win due to having taller players. 

[bobbydazzla]

26 minutes ago, Astroblack said:

Bournemouth were never in the Premier League until Eddie Howe got them into the Premier League.  

Bournemouth have done better in the Premier League since Eddie Howe left Bournemouth 

[Mole]

9 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

Sounds familiar...

Different levels of pressure but yes I take your point.

[UncleBingo]

3 minutes ago, Dr Venkman said:

Alreeat mayat?

Somebody will be in tears, mind.

[Dr Venkman]

7 minutes ago, Holmesy said:

It’s clear most of the Eddie diehards feel that way - it’s the only way they can feel really. I think there’s now a general acceptance that he won’t change, so it’s either more of the same or a new manager.

I’m at the point now where more Eddie ball isn’t something I want, regardless of if it gets us back into Europe, because we’ve seen its limitations and his. I’d rather we had a manager with a higher ceiling, and that comes from adaptability and flexibility.

There’s a lot of possibility between coming back a totally different coach and not changing at all, isn’t there?

[Astroblack]

5 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

Bournemouth have done better in the Premier League since Eddie Howe left Bournemouth 

Would Bournemouth be where they are now without Eddie Howe’s appointments in 2008 and 2012? 
 

Are you seriously saying Eddie Howe had no influence on Bournemouth becoming the team they are in 2026 without Eddie Howe? 

[Holmesy]

1 hour ago, Astroblack said:

If we’re getting rejected by every top prospect on the player end, it’s going to be the same on the manager end, too. We’re lucky to have Eddie, have to let him sort it out. He will, he always does. No other person I’d rather have to fix it than Eddie. He got Bournemouth from League Two to the Premier League. He won Newcastle United their first trophy in 50+ years, and it’s not like that was a fluke, we were in the final two years prior. 

You seem to be conveniently forgetting he also got Bournemouth relegated after failing to turn it around. He absolutely does not always turn it around. 

[Holmesy]

1 minute ago, Dr Venkman said:

There’s a lot of possibility between coming back a totally different coach and not changing at all, isn’t there?

True but the comments he has made seem to suggest he will stick to one plan, one way of playing, same coaches etc. And I don’t think you can become a good in-game manager overnight. 
 

He used to play 4-4-2 at Bournemouth though, so there’s every chance he’ll do something different but I imagine it will be a close relative of what we’ve seen for 4.5 years.

[Astroblack]

During his time here, Eddie Howe has a win percentage of 48.7. 226 games: 110 wins, 47 draws, 69 defeats. No way in hell am I considering sacking a manager with a record like that based on one bad season where we got fucked in the transfer market.