Mountain Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 hours ago, Myleftboot said: One of the CEO’s said we have to be in the top 6 every season. Which one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 33 minutes ago, reefatoon said: Did he not have a great chance of scoring where he left Tino at the back post only to have Dubravka save it? Christ, are there any lengths people won’t go to, to defend Dan Burn? Livra and Barnes came on and managed to salvage some small rewards from the wreckage of the Dan Burn car crash. Yeah, ultimately, they should’ve put that away and we should’ve lost, but we should never have been in that position in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 6 hours ago, Holmesy said: Christ, are there any lengths people won’t go to, to defend Dan Burn? Livra and Barnes came on and managed to salvage some small rewards from the wreckage of the Dan Burn car crash. Yeah, ultimately, they should’ve put that away and we should’ve lost, but we should never have been in that position in the first place How was that defending Dan Burn? He stated the lad was anonymous when he could have scored the winner if it wasn’t for Dubravka. Aye Burn had a stinker yesterday but Christ, are there any lengths people won’t go to, to slate Dan Burn? Edited February 4 by reefatoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 How can Holmesy be allowed to act himself continuously Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 7 hours ago, Mountain said: Which one? Pete silverstone I think,I’ll see if I can find the quote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 hours ago, Mountain said: Which one? It was Daz Eales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 11 hours ago, TheBrownBottle said: We’ll struggle to do that this season. Which board member said it and where? (Not questioning that you’re right, just curious about the framing) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 4 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: It was Daz Eales. HAVE to? So nobody said we have to be top 6. Just that we want to be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Got you. I remember this one. This was what the club’s aim is in the long-term, not for this season. It was noted at the time as it was a significant climb down from ‘we will win the Premier League, we will win the Champions League’ etc. Edited February 4 by TheBrownBottle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 hours ago, Holmesy said: Christ, are there any lengths people won’t go to, to defend Dan Burn? Livra and Barnes came on and managed to salvage some small rewards from the wreckage of the Dan Burn car crash. Yeah, ultimately, they should’ve put that away and we should’ve lost, but we should never have been in that position in the first place Sorry folks, I was pissed last night when I wrote that. Not my finest moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 There's now 8 sides who want/believe they should be in the top 6. Someone has to be disappointed. Without these injuries we'd be top 6 (ish). Like I've said before, bin this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, Holmesy said: Sorry folks, I was pissed last night when I wrote that. Not my finest moment. You didn’t call your company CEO a cunt, so as far as drunken bad moments go, it is still well behind my worst mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: Got you. I remember this one. This was what the club’s aim is, long-term not for this season. It was noted at the time as it was a significant climb down from ‘we will win the Premier League, we will win the Champions League’ etc. But the two can exist together. Their aim is to win the PL and CL, but in order to get there they need to be top 6 sustainable first. IMO, what's happening ON the pitch is irrelevant until we get the commercial side sorted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Holmesy said: Sorry folks, I was pissed last night when I wrote that. Not my finest moment. We've all been there. I apologised yesterday too. Much better place when people admit to getting a tad worked up. Just shows how much we care. Sometimes I wish in hated football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, STM said: But the two can exist together. Their aim is to win the PL and CL, but in order to get there they need to be top 6 sustainable first. IMO, what's happening ON the pitch is irrelevant until we get the commercial side sorted. I agree, the commercial matters more - however they aren’t independent of one another. There is a reason that Man Utd got tens of millions more from their CL group stage failure than we did - coefficients. And high placings = higher income. The club won’t grow if (massive ‘if’ - not saying this will happen) we spend the next two or three years in mid table; we’ll be no further forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 1 minute ago, STM said: We've all been there. I apologised yesterday too. Much better place when people admit to getting a tad worked up. Just shows how much we care. Sometimes I wish in hated football. Don’t hate the game, hate the fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 Just now, TheBrownBottle said: I agree, the commercial matters more - however they aren’t independent of one another. There is a reason that Man Utd got tens of millions more from their CL group stage failure than we did - coefficients. And high placings = higher income. The club won’t grow if (massive ‘if’ - not saying this will happen) we spend the next two or three years in mid table; we’ll be no further forward. Oh aye, I'm not advocating us not trying to achieve as much as possible. Some serious, serious, shit needs to happen this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 5 minutes ago, STM said: Oh aye, I'm not advocating us not trying to achieve as much as possible. Some serious, serious, shit needs to happen this summer. Really does feel like a massive summer, and next season already feels huge in determining if we have Howe here for the long term or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myleftboot Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I agree, the commercial matters more - however they aren’t independent of one another. There is a reason that Man Utd got tens of millions more from their CL group stage failure than we did - coefficients. And high placings = higher income. The club won’t grow if (massive ‘if’ - not saying this will happen) we spend the next two or three years in mid table; we’ll be no further forward. Yeah I would imagine our sponsors want European exposure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 9 hours ago, reefatoon said: Did he not have a great chance of scoring where he left Tino at the back post only to have Dubravka save it? He had that chance aye, could argue Tino blocks it if he hits it across goal though, which is the only way he could have scored. He was far more anonymous in general play, one half chance doesn't really change that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 3 minutes ago, Myleftboot said: Yeah I would imagine our sponsors want European exposure. I don’t think our Saudi sponsors have much say in the matter tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 14 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: So like any other defender does? Are you genuinely trying to argue that Burn been beaten on the counter by rapid wingers is a notable flaw in our gameplan over the past 2 year? This week is genuinely the first time I can remember it being legitimately exposed. There should be loads of examples though? Yes. Lots of pacey wingers give him serious trouble. He had many awful 45 minutes. Previously he would recover some after the break and I think a lot of that is down to protection from Willock and Joelinton who have great work rate and recovery pace. Without them holding his hand he’s badly exposed. It’s been a weakness for a long time. This season he’s getting targeted because it’s a known weakness but it did happen before. Same thing with the gap between defence and midfield. It was a weakness last season. It’s just being exploited more this season. Lots of us called this out at the time. The likes of you would try to shut it down. Some people wanted Ben upgraded for an offensive winger. But I’ve always wanted him upgraded so we can be better defensively. I like Burns profile as a LB he’s just too poor 1v1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 19 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Yes. Lots of pacey wingers give him serious trouble. He had many awful 45 minutes. Previously he would recover some after the break and I think a lot of that is down to protection from Willock and Joelinton who have great work rate and recovery pace. Without them holding his hand he’s badly exposed. It’s been a weakness for a long time. This season he’s getting targeted because it’s a known weakness but it did happen before. Same thing with the gap between defence and midfield. It was a weakness last season. It’s just being exploited more this season. Lots of us called this out at the time. The likes of you would try to shut it down. Some people wanted Ben upgraded for an offensive winger. But I’ve always wanted him upgraded so we can be better defensively. I like Burns profile as a LB he’s just too poor 1v1. when have I ever tried to shutdown people down for pointing out the gap between defense and midfield? Burn has had a bad week. This is what happens though, a hypothetical flaw gets pointed out, we go months or years before it breaks, and then at that point the flaw gets blown up. Burn is obviously not the best fullback ever, but he's worked on our system well for about a year and a half. Thankfully most wingers are't Ogbene quick, and baily roasted our entire team, it wasn't just Burn. Ogbene nearly scored the winner with Tino on the pitch too by the way... Edited February 4 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 2 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said: when have I ever tried to shutdown people down for pointing out the gap between defense and midfield? Burn has had a bad week. This is what happens though, a hypothetical flaw gets pointed out, we go months or years before it breaks, and then at that point the flaw gets blown up. Burn is obviously not the best fullback ever, but he's worked on our system well for about a year and a half. Ogbene nearly scored the winner with Tino on the pitch too by the way... after we'd been bombing on desperately/manically looking for a winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted February 4 Share Posted February 4 (edited) 13 minutes ago, huss9 said: after we'd been bombing on desperately/manically looking for a winner. Pretty sure most of our players were back in the box like, I'll have to see it again. Edited February 4 by Hanshithispantz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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