Eddie Howe

[Novocastrian]

We should ask Keegan to come back and do the half time team talks. I’m probably mis-remembering but it seemed his teams generally came out stronger in the second half. Howe has a problem with this.

[arnonel]

Do people on here seriously think football is that easy that a manager can say some words and it is THE deciding factor in how a team plays?

[Pilko]

Was one of the strangest games I've attended ever, that. Sloppy individual mistake from Murphy and sus positioning from Pope for the opener. Immediately I start to worry that we're usually pretty shit at chasing a home deficit... then we play some fantastic stuff and saunter in 4-1 at the break. Then, the second half was honestly like something from the Bruce era (okay, maybe not that bad, but it followed the same kind of pattern) - absolutely no control over the midfield, non-existant as an attacking force and slack in defence. We looked like we were desperate to give the advantage away.

 

The main thing is we got over the line and secured the three points, but I think if there was say 7-8 added minutes rather than 3 we could be sat here lamenting one of the worst collapses in years and with a point only.

 

Miley was good after two early concessions of the ball, Hall had a great game and Isak amongst the goals can't be a bad thing. The main issue for me was Schar and Burn's lack of pace and the fact that their powers are gradually fading. They'll still have excellent games for us on their days but they looked old and clapped out today I thought. We need Botman back and next year someone with some gas in there too.

 

Eddie will be relieved after that and I'm not really sure he "got it wrong" or anything second half - he correctly hooked the abysmal Murphy and introduced Tonali to try grab the midfield battle as I think most would have - there were just simply so many slack touches and passes from our lads it was ridiculous. We'll need to be sharper at Anfield to avoid a bad result as a top team would absolutely leather us in that shoe-gazing, limp second half.

 

Basically, we got away with one and as much as we've had some poor home results that we didn't deserve (Brighton springs to mind), we had the other side of that coin today which is nice.

[Holmesy]

We gift possession to the opposition so much and that is undoubtedly something that can be improved on the training pitch.

New, better players would obviously help that as well but you play the hand you’re dealt.
Under pressure like we were in the second half today, better teams take the sting out of the opposition by keeping the ball and playing it around while sitting deep. We sit deep, keep giving the ball away and have to face an onslaught of attacks. It’s pathetic stuff at times.

[Yorkie]

12 minutes ago, Pilko said:

Basically, we got away with one and as much as we've had some poor home results that we didn't deserve (Brighton springs to mind), we had the other side of that coin today which is nice.

 

I don't think we didn't deserve to win, like. The second half was alarmingly shit for large chunks but I think you're basically disregarding a pretty sensational first half if you think we only deserved a point. If Forest equalise you don't begrudge them it... but ultimately they didn't. 

[Rod]

18 minutes ago, Pilko said:

Was one of the strangest games I've attended ever, that. Sloppy individual mistake from Murphy and sus positioning from Pope for the opener. Immediately I start to worry that we're usually pretty shit at chasing a home deficit... then we play some fantastic stuff and saunter in 4-1 at the break. Then, the second half was honestly like something from the Bruce era (okay, maybe not that bad, but it followed the same kind of pattern) - absolutely no control over the midfield, non-existant as an attacking force and slack in defence. We looked like we were desperate to give the advantage away.

 

The main thing is we got over the line and secured the three points, but I think if there was say 7-8 added minutes rather than 3 we could be sat here lamenting one of the worst collapses in years and with a point only.

 

Miley was good after two early concessions of the ball, Hall had a great game and Isak amongst the goals can't be a bad thing. The main issue for me was Schar and Burn's lack of pace and the fact that their powers are gradually fading. They'll still have excellent games for us on their days but they looked old and clapped out today I thought. We need Botman back and next year someone with some gas in there too.

 

Eddie will be relieved after that and I'm not really sure he "got it wrong" or anything second half - he correctly hooked the abysmal Murphy and introduced Tonali to try grab the midfield battle as I think most would have - there were just simply so many slack touches and passes from our lads it was ridiculous. We'll need to be sharper at Anfield to avoid a bad result as a top team would absolutely leather us in that shoe-gazing, limp second half.

 

Basically, we got away with one and as much as we've had some poor home results that we didn't deserve (Brighton springs to mind), we had the other side of that coin today which is nice.

Great honest comments that I agree with.

[Pilko]

3 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I don't think we didn't deserve to win, like. The second half was alarmingly shit for large chunks but I think you're basically disregarding a pretty sensational first half if you think we only deserved a point. If Forest equalise you don't begrudge them it... but ultimately they didn't. 

 

I'm sort of in agreement with you, but that second half was the absolute pits to a level where we'd have deserved the sting in the tail had it arrived. They created a bunch of good chances and controlled the whole thing. Other than greedy CW fucking up those two counters in time added on, we created absolutely nowt at all second half and couldn't string three passes together.

[Gallowgate Toon]

I honestly don't mind him telling us to shut up shop and hit breaks when 4-1 up. When we're at it, we're a fantastic sit & counter side, but it feels like we have taken that to mean we coast with our work off the ball a few times this season which is the crucial bit. That's the part where we lose control most rather than possession play, imo. Losing second balls in key areas & territory when our forward options aren't up for scrapping. Bournemouth & Fulham outdid us here massively.

 

This squad is still very much learning how to develop an elite mentality. 

[Yorkie]

1 minute ago, Pilko said:

 

I'm sort of in agreement with you, but that second half was the absolute pits to a level where we'd have deserved the sting in the tail had it arrived. They created a bunch of good chances and controlled the whole thing. Other than greedy CW fucking up those two counters in time added on, we created absolutely nowt at all second half and couldn't string three passes together.

 

Schär off the post, but I'm picking nits. 

 

I'm not going to defend the second half because you're right about the performance; but nowt reeeally happened in this bit (I even started to relax) and that was enough to ensure they ran out of time:

 

[Heron]

24 minutes ago, Pilko said:

Was one of the strangest games I've attended ever, that. Sloppy individual mistake from Murphy and sus positioning from Pope for the opener. Immediately I start to worry that we're usually pretty shit at chasing a home deficit... then we play some fantastic stuff and saunter in 4-1 at the break. Then, the second half was honestly like something from the Bruce era (okay, maybe not that bad, but it followed the same kind of pattern) - absolutely no control over the midfield, non-existant as an attacking force and slack in defence. We looked like we were desperate to give the advantage away.

 

The main thing is we got over the line and secured the three points, but I think if there was say 7-8 added minutes rather than 3 we could be sat here lamenting one of the worst collapses in years and with a point only.

 

Miley was good after two early concessions of the ball, Hall had a great game and Isak amongst the goals can't be a bad thing. The main issue for me was Schar and Burn's lack of pace and the fact that their powers are gradually fading. They'll still have excellent games for us on their days but they looked old and clapped out today I thought. We need Botman back and next year someone with some gas in there too.

 

Eddie will be relieved after that and I'm not really sure he "got it wrong" or anything second half - he correctly hooked the abysmal Murphy and introduced Tonali to try grab the midfield battle as I think most would have - there were just simply so many slack touches and passes from our lads it was ridiculous. We'll need to be sharper at Anfield to avoid a bad result as a top team would absolutely leather us in that shoe-gazing, limp second half.

 

Basically, we got away with one and as much as we've had some poor home results that we didn't deserve (Brighton springs to mind), we had the other side of that coin today which is nice.

Agree with a lot of this but not that Forest deserved anything. Thought they were fairly shite tbh. Offered very little and simply tried to disrupt and bully and bombard our penalty area. I'll be genuinely surprised if they make the top 5 by the end of the season.

 

I thought it was a game of two halves ultimately and neither side really blew the other away. They were piss poor first half and we sauntered through them numerous times. Could have probably been several by half time for us. Second half we were dogshit and they didn't really show enough quality to benefit from it. That being said another 10mins and I think we'd have drawn.

 

We got what we deserved for me, as did they.

 

Really need to learn how to control games though from winning positions.

 

[Menace]

7 goals conceded in 2 games btw. I hope a CB or two are high on the transfer list this summer.

[Pilko]

Just now, Yorkie said:

 

Schär off the post, but I'm picking nits. 

 

I'm not going to defend the second half because you're right about the performance; but nowt reeeally happened in this bit (I even started to relax) and that was enough to ensure they ran out of time:

 

 

No, fair, I forgot about the Schar chance. 

 

The feeling of me and everyone around me at 4-2 was that another Forest goal was coming and it was "when not if" and there was a massive sigh of relief when for once, the added time on seemed to be vastly undercooked when we needed it to be.

 

Ultimately it's a good sign that we can all be asking questions about 2/3 of the 90 today and that we've walked off with 3 points and we can be confident that Eddie will use it as a lesson for the team to ensure we don't fritter away a big advantage like that again.

[Mahoneys Tache]

Forest are third on merit. We scored enough to make sure they couldn’t beat us. We are not perfect yet. The mentality and some of the quality will improve. He’s working fucking miracles given how long it’s been since he could hoy good money at the first team. Good win. Fuck the style. 

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Mahoneys Tache

[OCOCOL]

It’s hard to believe forest are fighting for the CL imho. First half they were shite scored  against the run of play . 2nd half we stood off too much and in a different day they draw. 
 

positives - miley and hall . I live Sandro but he’s now eclipsed Bruno as a player you didn’t criticise - he has been poor last few games and Mileys performance will hopefully get some friendly competition going. 

[The College Dropout]

It looks like the instruction was to sit a bit deeper in numbers and see the game out. 
 

But that translated to a lack of intensity off the ball. And sloppiness. 
 

It’s Howe’s job to ensure the players have the right mentality. 

[Dokko]

1 hour ago, Sima said:

If hypothetically we were 3-0 up at Wembley with 20 minutes to go, I wouldn’t be confident of us seeing it out.

 

Game management is a concern.

 

If that happened, I'd be confident of getting so drunk, I'd wake up Tuesday not knowing if we won or not.

[SUPERTOON]

Cup final, 3 points off 3rd with 12 games to go, chance to get to the FA cup quarters. All whilst not improving the squad in nearly 2 years. Some achievement tbf.

[huss9]

2 hours ago, OCOCOL said:

It’s hard to believe forest are fighting for the CL imho. First half they were shite scored  against the run of play . 2nd half we stood off too much and in a different day they draw. 
 

positives - miley and hall . I live Sandro but he’s now eclipsed Bruno as a player you didn’t criticise - he has been poor last few games and Mileys performance will hopefully get some friendly competition going. 

plenty would say the same about us.

[OCOCOL]

52 minutes ago, huss9 said:

plenty would say the same about us.

And they’d be right