Eddie Howe

[Rafalove]

Who?

[xLiaaamx]

Ten years as Porto DoF, 2 at PSG

[SUPERTOON]

The rumours for sporting director definitely seem stronger than any for manager so far.

[Rafalove]

5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

The rumours for sporting director definitely seem stronger than any for manager so far.

 

tbh it would make sense to bring in a new sporting director before a new manager.

 

 

but obviously with our position In the league we need to do both fairly sharpish.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by Rafalove

[toontownman]

Henrique as DOF, Rangnick as manger, sorted. 

[Rafalove]

Maybe this Henrique is pretty good but mandoons hype over him has my heart set on Rangnik as DOF. 

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, Rafalove said:

Maybe this Henrique is pretty good but mandoons hype over him has my heart set on Rangnik as DOF. 

I know that Henrique is also very highly rated 

[Kimbo]

Am I the only one still nursing a semi for Ralph Hassenhutl these days? Southampton haven’t had a very good year, but the circumstances there aren’t good.

[SUPERTOON]

1 minute ago, Kimbo said:

Am I the only one still nursing a semi for Ralph Hassenhutl these days? Southampton haven’t had a very good year, but the circumstances there aren’t good.

I think he would also work well with Rangnick

[toontownman]

Article from when Manure were supposedly after Henrique.

 

https://en.as.com/en/2020/01/28/soccer/1580242214_955916.html

[Wilson]

No idea what this site is, but going off the article date they approached Henrique last year.   It bodes well imo, shows they already have their targets so hopefully things will move quickly this week. 

 

https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/06/08/report-potential-newcastle-owners-have-outlined-huge-plans-to-antero-henrique/?amp

[nbthree3]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/oct/11/steve-bruce-nears-newcastle-exit-amanda-staveley-meets-manager-squad

 

It is an open secret that Staveley and her co-directors are currently working to identify a replacement manager and Rodgers, Belgium’s Roberto Martínez, Ajax’s Erik ten Hag, Brighton’s Graham Potter and Rangers’ Steven Gerrard have all been linked with the job.

 

Hiring a manager currently un-attached to a club would be much more straightforward and – like Frank Lampard – Favre, who left Borussia Dortmund last December, falls into this category. It is understood that Favre, previously in charge of Nice, is interested and remains one of the names under detailed discussion as Staveley and her fellow director Jamie Reuben trim their original long-list into a shortlist. Favre rejected an offer to take charge of Crystal Palace in the summer, but would be unlikely to say no to Staveley.

 

Although the former Chelsea and Internazionale coach, Antonio Conte, has also been mentioned it is unclear whether taking over a team currently second bottom of the Premier League and without a win of any sort so far this season would appeal to the Italian.

 

...Having bought out Mike Ashley, Newcastle’s new owners are conducting a full review of infrastructure and remain anxious to appoint a director of football. Ralf Rangnick, the former RB Leipzig manager who is currently sporting director at Lokomotiv Moscow, has emerged as a leading candidate for this post, although Manchester City’s academy manager, Jason Wilcox, is also in contention.

[SUPERTOON]

Surely if that article is true it should be the job of a sporting director to identify the manager and not the owners ?

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

Surely if that article is true it should be the job of a sporting director to identify the manager and not the owners ?

 

I still think the hiring of the manager will be in the hands of PIF and not Staveley or Jamie Rueben.

[SUPERTOON]

Just now, et tu brute said:

 

I still think the hiring of the manager will be in the hands of PIF and not Staveley or Jamie Rueben.

But surely it should be sporting director considering how close they and the manager work together 

[et tu brute]

5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

But surely it should be sporting director considering how close they and the manager work together 

 

Maybe it will be, but currently there is no sporting director in place. Could well be that they already have one lined up and are working with him to identify managerial targets. I was just questioning that AS and JR are working on targets, as I just can't see that being the case. 

 

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by et tu brute

[SUPERTOON]

2 minutes ago, et tu brute said:

 

Maybe it will be, but currently there is no sporting director in place. Could well be that they already have one lined up and are working with him to identify managerial targets. I was just questioning that AS and JR are working on targets, as I just can't see that being the case. 

 

 

 

I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that AS and JR pick targets and then PIF have final say 

[Guest HTT II]

1 minute ago, et tu brute said:

 

Maybe it will be, but currently there is no sporting director in place. Could well be that they already have one lined up and are working with him to identify managerial targets. I was just questioning that AS and JR are working on targets, as I just can't see that being the case. 

 

 

 

I can, I can’t see PIF scouring the game for a new manager, they will entrust that to AS and JR who may or may not entrust that to a DOF. Right now I’m of the mindset that I think they want a DOF and a manager together which align both with whatever their vision/plans are going forward and that is tricky and may hold up just getting someone in to just replace Bruce. Having said that, I think, and I think we all do as does the man himself, that he will be gone very soon whether we have anyone lined up straight away to replace him or not. I excpect Jones as temp manager in the dugout for Spurs and potentially Brighton away. Either way, again, whoever they do or do not appoint will, for the first time in 14 years, be judged on results and performances, success and failure. If it’s Lampard, he needs to succeed or he won’t last long, if it’s Conte, the same applies. 

[SAK]

2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said:

I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that AS and JR pick targets and then PIF have final say 

Would PIF be an active investor? 

[et tu brute]

Just now, SUPERTOON said:

I’m pretty sure I read somewhere that AS and JR pick targets and then PIF have final say 

 

We have both read numerous things, doesn't mean it's true. Staveley will be the face of the club imho, JR working on the upgrades and infrastructure and I still think PIF will be ones dealing with the big decisions. 

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, HTT II said:

I can, I can’t see PIF scouring the game for a new manager, they will entrust that to AS and JR who may or may not entrust that to a DOF. Right now I’m of the mindset that I think they want a DOF and a manager together which align both with whatever their vision/plans are going forward and that is tricky and may hold up just getting someone in to just replace Bruce. Having said that, I think, and I think we all do as does the man himself, that he will be gone very soon whether we have anyone lined up straight away to replace him or not. I excpect Jones as temp manager in the dugout for Spurs and potentially Brighton away. Either way, again, whoever they do or do not appoint will, for the first time in 14 years, be judged on results and performances, success and failure. If it’s Lampard, he needs to succeed or he won’t last long, if it’s Conte, the same applies. 

 

Disagree with the first bit, but time will tell.

[Guest HTT II]

Just now, et tu brute said:

 

We have both read numerous things, doesn't mean it's true. Staveley will be the face of the club imho, JR working on the upgrades and infrastructure and I still think PIF will be ones dealing with the big decisions. 

PIF are the purse strings in all of this, AS is the face of it, but her company and JR and his company will be/are going to be responsible for investing PIF’s wealth into success on and off the pitch.

[et tu brute]

Just now, HTT II said:

PIF are the purse strings in all of this, AS is the face of it, but her company and JR and his company will be/are going to be responsible for investing PIF’s wealth into success on and off the pitch.

 

As I said I disagree and we will see. It's going to be on a different planet to what we're used to that's for sure either way.

[Guest HTT II]

Just now, et tu brute said:

 

Disagree with the first bit, but time will tell.

You think PIF will have the final say in who the manager will be? If that is to be the case, then I’d imagine that would extend to the DOF and players even. I think they’ve brought in AS and JR and their respective companies as stakeholders to kind of be their funds manager to oversee their investment returns success on and off the field. I think they will be hands off more than hands on. As you said though, time will tell.

[Consortium of one]

I agree with HTT.  I seem to remember Stavely saying in a very brief interview after the takeover that she'd be judged on her performance.  I think her and Mehrdad are running day to day ops with guidance from some football people.  So they're charged with getting things up and running and perhaps when big ticket items (Infrastructure, perhaps some player purchases) will be reviewed by PIF.  

 

I would also agree that I'd like to see a DOF pick his manager.  So sack Bruce, maybe DOF next week or week after and new manager in before the November break.  That gives them all time to evaluate the squad and prep for the January window.