alexf Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Until we started raining ridiculous goals. Thought he was the best of the bunch for long spells. Don't remember him putting a foot wrong and dealt with stuff effortlessly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Thought he was class tonight, would’ve had him in the MOTM conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Botman's a player that I think non Newcastle fans seem to latch onto more fore some reason. He's quality but Fabian Schär's right there next to him man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Nominated for PL Young Player of the Year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, Jack27 said: Nominated for PL Young Player of the Year He gets my vote but Haaland is getting it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 vote here: https://www.premierleague.com/news/3345791 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Our most overrated player this season and I don't mean that in a negative way, I don't mean that he hasn't been great, nor is it meant at all as a criticism of him or his performances. All I mean is that, particularly amongst non-Newcastle fans, he's been given an unbelievable amount of plaudits that imo go way beyond how good he's been and certainly far beyond how good Fabian Schar, the better of the two CBs this season, has been. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Our most overrated player this season and I don't mean that in a negative way, I don't mean that he hasn't been great, nor is it meant at all as a criticism of him or his performances. All I mean is that, particularly amongst non-Newcastle fans, he's been given an unbelievable amount of plaudits that imo go way beyond how good he's been and certainly far beyond how good Fabian Schar, the better of the two CBs this season, has been. This I agree with fully. Schar hasn't got his plaudits at all. Sven has gotten all of them. It feeds into the "Newcastle have bought success" narrative as if Botman has been the VVD to Schar's Gomez. Being you and English, the likes of Willock have avoided that fate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Botman has been amazing, we've looked shaky the last few games but in general he has been incredibly good for someone so young and new to the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sushimonster85 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 50 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: This I agree with fully. Schar hasn't got his plaudits at all. Sven has gotten all of them. Definitely. Schar has been one of the best CB's in the league this season and it's gone largely unnoticed as both Newcastle fans, and neutral fans, pay way more attention to Botman with him coming in with the big price tag/rep. The unlikely ScharJoe double act should be one of the feel good stories of the season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Can a player win player and the young player award? Or what if haaland wins the player and not the young player.. which make no sense as surely he would have to be both by default? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 1 minute ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Can a player win player and the young player award? Or what if haaland wins the player and not the young player.. which make no sense as surely he would have to be both by default? Yes. It's been done before. I think Michael Owen did. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobsonsWonderland Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Just now, madras said: Yes. It's been done before. I think Michael Owen did. Ah the young world class Owen, not the one we had! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, RobsonsWonderland said: Ah the young world class Owen, not the one we had! Andy Gray definitely did. Not 100% sure Owen but fairly sure. Think there's a couple more. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 Gareth Bale did it too iirc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 And Cristiano..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, The College Dropout said: And Cristiano..... Been looking it up as well ? Edit Owen didn't. Shows my age the only one I knew for definite was from the 70s Edited May 18, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 56 minutes ago, madras said: Been looking it up as well ? Edit Owen didn't. Shows my age the only one I knew for definite was from the 70s That one I had to look up. I thought someone else did it just before Bale but thought it was Hazard for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitude20 Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 This guy knows how to time his tackles. So smooth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted May 18, 2023 Share Posted May 18, 2023 He's ridiculously underrated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Interesting shift in role/system when Ferguson came on. Don't know if it would have been as clear from the TV but at the ground it looked like he went man to man on Ferguson which nullified him but also left massive gaps at the back, with Botman literally following him into his own half at times. Clearly something they'd pre-planned. Also, what a beast this fella is. For his first season in England, he's been fucking brilliant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 I thought Schar did the same thing with Welbeck often in the first half. brifhton have this tactic of overloading the middle. Striker drops deep. Wingers invert. Fullbacks push-up. So there’s 5-6 players up against a defensive line of 4/5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 Good centre backs go in pairs and compliment each other. Botman and Schar both have different attributes but they gel and get the best out of each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted May 19, 2023 Share Posted May 19, 2023 him and schar fucked up on the brighton goal mind. we could see it coming from the gallowgate. striker was unmarked in a massive space between the CB'S and shouting for the ball. easy pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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