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madras

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10 minutes ago, 80 said:

Well, the problem is seemingly the club itself doesn't know what the number is. They're working off estimates. That sounds incredibly unprofessional but apparently all clubs are in the same boat, so no major criticisms there.

 

The story we're being fed is £68m for Anderson and Minteh was 'probably' enough but they weren't certain. So sure, it could've been £59m in reality, but equally it could've been £72m. Whatever the case, it appears we were unsure enough to seal the Ashworth deal and make it (hopefully) cast iron.

 

Which is why, going back to the original subject, the obvious route to fix the problem would've been to get a whacking great fee for a single player and sort it in one go.

 

 

 

But those that have to do it, I guess, kind of guesstimate and I'd be more inclined to go alongside Rambles numbers.

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5 minutes ago, madras said:

But those that have to do it, I guess, kind of guesstimate and I'd be more inclined to go alongside Rambles numbers.

From memory, he thought £40m with a high degree of uncertainty, didn't he? 

 

I mean, I respect his work but the evidence is the people at the coalface of the profit and loss sheets thought it was much more. Otherwise I doubt we would've sacrificed both Minteh and Anderson like this. One would've been enough.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, 80 said:

From memory, he thought £40m with a high degree of uncertainty, didn't he? 

 

I mean, I respect his work but the evidence is the people at the coalface of the profit and loss sheets thought it was much more. Otherwise I doubt we would've sacrificed both Minteh and Anderson like this. One would've been enough.

 

 

 

To be honest I don’t think anyone outside of the club really knows!  Still onwards and upwards! Don’t forget this is a long term project which we have known from the first day of the takeover?

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10 minutes ago, 80 said:

From memory, he thought £40m with a high degree of uncertainty, didn't he? 

 

I mean, I respect his work but the evidence is the people at the coalface of the profit and loss sheets thought it was much more. Otherwise I doubt we would've sacrificed both Minteh and Anderson like this. One would've been enough.

 

 

 

 

There are two reasons why PSR is invoked for selling players, one to offset losses, one to generate additional financial freedom to sign players needed to develop.   

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14 minutes ago, 80 said:

From memory, he thought £40m with a high degree of uncertainty, didn't he? 

 

I mean, I respect his work but the evidence is the people at the coalface of the profit and loss sheets thought it was much more. Otherwise I doubt we would've sacrificed both Minteh and Anderson like this. One would've been enough.

 

 

 

There's making sure and the Anderson deal was too good to turn down imo.

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27 minutes ago, madras said:

There's making sure and the Anderson deal was too good to turn down imo.

Well, we'll see if we bid £85m for Gibbs in July, I guess...

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31 minutes ago, Adam P said:

 

There are two reasons why PSR is invoked for selling players, one to offset losses, one to generate additional financial freedom to sign players needed to develop.   

Yes, but if it was a sale of pure choice it would've been more beneficial to wait 24 hours and do it today - the first day of the new PSR period. That way we'd still feel the benefit of the profit in June 2027. As it is, that profit will expire in 25/26 - a straightforward negative for us.

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51 minutes ago, 80 said:

Yes, but if it was a sale of pure choice it would've been more beneficial to wait 24 hours and do it today - the first day of the new PSR period. That way we'd still feel the benefit of the profit in June 2027. As it is, that profit will expire in 25/26 - a straightforward negative for us.

 
True. The business is run on money as well as PSR rules though. We haven’t lost 68m down the back of a legal sofa, we now have it to spend. 

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4 minutes ago, Adam P said:

 
True. The business is run on money as well as PSR rules though. We haven’t lost 68m down the back of a legal sofa, we now have it to spend. 

That's fair enough, the money will be welcome, but it just would've been even more welcome 24 hours later is all, which looks like a smoking gun to me.

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Apparently City see Bruno as their priority.

 

If that's true, we are a bit fucked. It's the one club where I don't think we can deny Bruno the move.

 

Let's hope we stand firm on a big valuation, which sees them move on.

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If City come in, even for 80m we've got problems. Naturally Bruno will want the move and we will have to talk to them. We may get more money but the point is that we would lose Bruno.

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12 minutes ago, STM said:

If City come in, even for 80m we've got problems. Naturally Bruno will want the move and we will have to talk to them. We may get more money but the point is that we would lose Bruno.

 

Personally, if we've agreed to put a release clause in his contract (assuming it was Bruno's side pushing for it), nobody has met it within the well-publicised time limit, then a team has come in offering less than the amount even later in the window, I'd be a bit pissed off if the player started pushing for the move.

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