The Prophet Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, Shearerlegend said: It is all about opinions, i am pretty sure 99% of fans believe he is our best player(+isak). This is the thing- we have owners with unlimited money but we cannot spend due to ffp. If we keep buy every year for 100m while the other top 5-6 buy for 200m+ (and they already have better and deeper squads) we will never make this jump, i think we must sell every summer “a purple”, it is just me looking at the bigger picture. But as i said it is hard to accept because we have an emotional connection to our players now. My English is pretty poor so i hope you understand what i am trying to say.. I get you, but it's knowing when to sell. We're too early into building our squad to be considering selling key players, particularly ones we'd struggle to replace for a decent price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Colos Short and Curlies said: Was he playing further forward than he has recently for us? No and yes. He was a devensive pivot with Casemiro, sitting behind the front four, but Brazil were totally dominant so the whole team was forward at times. Edited September 9, 2023 by Dr. TC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 It’s more about just getting Bruno back his dominant ways and in form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 7 hours ago, r0cafella said: Big Joe probably still isn’t full fit given how he’s looked for us. Glad Bruno played well though. Was casemiro just sitting deep? At first yes, but to break them down Casemiro was doing more a box to box role. Basically Casemiro started the buildup play with central defenders and then ran the whole way up the pitch letting unathletic and slow as fuck Bruno dictate play in the last third of the pitch only. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 5 hours ago, Paully said: He’s back! Performs for Brazil but not NUFC. Worrying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 1 hour ago, The Prophet said: I know this wasn't directed at me and I'm not suggesting anyone is an idiot, but we've had posts suggesting he's not quality, should be dropped or sold for the right price. Bare in mind we couldn't win a game without him in the team around seven months back. A majority would probably agree he hasn't been at his very best this season though. For the right price we should sell anyone imo. £100m is still alot of money. Technically you are right that we didnt win without Bruno last season. But the two losses were against Liverpool were we played very good tbh, and the rest were draws. Doesnt help that we didnt have anyone capable of replacing him in that position either. Its not that i want to sell any of our starting players, but until we get our commercial revenue going its not a dumb idea if we get a very good offer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Displayname said: For the right price we should sell anyone imo. £100m is still alot of money. Technically you are right that we didnt win without Bruno last season. But the two losses were against Liverpool were we played very good tbh, and the rest were draws. Doesnt help that we didnt have anyone capable of replacing him in that position either. Its not that i want to sell any of our starting players, but until we get our commercial revenue going its not a dumb idea if we get a very good offer. For me his skill set is quite unique and we're going to struggle to replace him, unless we alter our style of play. Even then a quality replacement won't come cheap, the starting price for a decent seems to be £50 million plus. I appreciate trading will become part of our business model, but now is absolutely not the right time to be flogging any key players, particularly Bruno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: For me his skill set is quite unique and we're going to struggle to replace him, unless we alter our style of play. Even then a quality replacement won't come cheap, the starting price for a decent seems to be £50 million plus. I appreciate trading will become part of our business model, but now is absolutely not the right time to be flogging any key players, particularly Bruno. I think it will be less important in the years ahead when we get our commercial revenue going, now is when we need it the most. We probably wouldnt be able to replace him directly (atleast not the player he is in form), but we could also use to money to replace other positions that are in dire need. Also not that sure that he is perfectly suited for our style of play in the position he plays now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Nine said: If only we could play Bolivia every week Good thing we're not playing Liverpool and City every week. Anyways I don't think it's a coincidence that he does this for Brazil. I kinda had a feeling it would happen. It's not necessarily just about him and his form, also the system, his role, and the players around him. Edited September 9, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 I see he played in a double pivot alongside Casemiro. Of the players we have, a Tonali-Bruno pivot seems like the best option if we want to try something new imo. Joelinton can play left wing or 10, or as a rotation option for the pivot players. Willock seems ideally suited to a 10 role with Isak ahead of him too imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. TC Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 18 minutes ago, Smal said: I see he played in a double pivot alongside Casemiro. Of the players we have, a Tonali-Bruno pivot seems like the best option if we want to try something new imo. Joelinton can play left wing or 10, or as a rotation option for the pivot players. Willock seems ideally suited to a 10 role with Isak ahead of him too imo. Or Isak as a 10 with Wilson ahead of him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smootsmack Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 why does it seem like half this forum wants to drop or sell our best player because we are 1 point worse off than last year based on the fixtures so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 9 minutes ago, smootsmack said: why does it seem like half this forum wants to drop or sell our best player because we are 1 point worse off than last year based on the fixtures so far? There is the emotion as ‘good in business’ syndrome, sure, notwithstanding the cruel to be kind scenario. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, smootsmack said: why does it seem like half this forum wants to drop or sell our best player because we are 1 point worse off than last year based on the fixtures so far? Is it blasphemy to not consider him our best player? Personally i think Isak and Botman have had better performances on average for us overall. I still rate him, but not as highly as the rest of the forum it seems. Edited September 9, 2023 by Displayname Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Displayname said: Is it blasphemy to not consider him our best player? Personally i think Isak and Botman have had better performances on average for us overall. I still rate him, but not as highly as the rest of the forum it seems. Botman is probably the most consistent one. Not sure about Isak vs Bruno, because they both have been insane at their best, but Isak has had some games where he's barely getting involved. Typical for a striker though, it even happens with Haaland. Kind of hard to compare the performances of Bruno and Isak, with Isak being a striker. Edited September 9, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Botman and Isak er the only ones I wouldn't sell for any price. Getting 100m for Bruno would mean we could bring in a DM and an AM to offer us a better balanced midfield. Not that I think it's going to happen anytime soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
80 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 7 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Botman and Isak er the only ones I wouldn't sell for any price. Getting 100m for Bruno would mean we could bring in a DM and an AM to offer us a better balanced midfield. Not that I think it's going to happen anytime soon. In a world where Caicedo just topped £100m, that bit is questionable... I'm sure it could be done, but it's easier said than done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 Not even entertaining a hypothetical with him. He’s our main man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krabbe2 Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 It will be exciting to see what Liverpool do next summer after selling Salah. Probably won't be CL next season, which means he might want to leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, mattypnufc said: that is the reason right there why we needed to buy a 6. It is not his best role and he is wasted there Edited September 9, 2023 by duo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, duo said: that is the reason right there why we needed to buy a 6. It is not his best role and he is wasted there Who was Brazils 6 last night ? Seemed like a double pivot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 6 minutes ago, madras said: Who was Brazils 6 last night ? Seemed like a double pivot. Casimero Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kanji said: Casimero I watched about 15mins in the first half, seemed like a double then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Butcher said: Botman and Isak er the only ones I wouldn't sell for any price. Getting 100m for Bruno would mean we could bring in a DM and an AM to offer us a better balanced midfield. Not that I think it's going to happen anytime soon. Fair. Good strikers for a fair price are not easy to find nowadays, so Isak is very important. But it's also hard to find a good DM without breaking the bank. Edited September 9, 2023 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted September 9, 2023 Share Posted September 9, 2023 (edited) Liverpool allegedly bidding £100 million for him and Real, City and Arsenal being credited with an interest tells you how easy he'll be to replace. Edited September 10, 2023 by The Prophet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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